just curious

3/29/2006 9:51:35 AM

They're usually 5-stars until they commit to NC State. Then they go down to 4-star or 3-star....

3/29/2006 9:52:19 AM

Surely Mario was, or Demario Pressley or Toney Baker. Those guys were all top 10 at their positions in the country right?

3/29/2006 9:54:14 AM

AJ Davis

3/29/2006 9:57:08 AM

Demario yes, Toney yes, derrick morris yes

Mario, no

Richard Wash. yes

aj davis yes

3/29/2006 9:57:10 AM

shit, we don't even have any 4-stars this year

3/29/2006 9:58:04 AM

Tramain Hall is listed as 5-star on rivals (2002)
Derek Morris is listed as 5-star on rivals (2003)
Mario Williams is listed as 4-star (2003)
DeMario Pressley is listed as 5-star (2004)

3/29/2006 10:00:44 AM

Only spot we are really going to be thin at IMO is LB, we didn't recruit any OL, and our DL can withstand a not so hot recruting year if the current players step up and we get Brooks back. It's also hard for anyone outside of a large metro area to be a 5 star in both scout and rivals. I know Baker droped toa 4 star in one of them shortly after he committed here.

3/29/2006 10:02:09 AM

Morris wasn't technically a State recruit/commit


we got him in the backdoor

3/29/2006 10:09:12 AM

That's probably why he remained a 5-star....

It's a crock of shit what happens when a player commits to NC State....

3/29/2006 10:11:32 AM

and T. Hall never technically came here til after what would have been his true Sophomore season

3/29/2006 10:14:16 AM

Wasn't Jay Davis a 4-star recruit?

3/29/2006 10:20:52 AM

Where was PR?

3/29/2006 10:27:13 AM

2 or 3 star

3/29/2006 10:28:07 AM

Rly? That was some major talent scouting. GG

3/29/2006 10:32:24 AM

he was recruited to play TE at either auburn or alabama, i forget which one

3/29/2006 10:34:30 AM

That would be Auburn.

Florida State had him on their board, but he was way down.... That's where Chuck saw him. After O'Cain was fired and Chuck was hired, Chuck went to AL to talk to Rivers....

3/29/2006 10:40:38 AM

he would have been a slow-ass TE

maybe strictly a blocking TE

3/29/2006 10:41:41 AM

He showed he could catch the ball though....

3/29/2006 10:43:10 AM

manny and mccargo were both 1 or 2 stars...stars don't mean shit most of the time.

3/29/2006 10:45:01 AM

And of course the Offensive Coordinator at Auburn when they recruited PR as a TE was...Noel Mazzone.

3/29/2006 10:46:22 AM

Oh snap!

3/29/2006 10:51:15 AM

Quote :

"And of course the Offensive Coordinator at Auburn when they recruited PR as a TE was...Noel Mazzone."

I love what he told Rivers. "Son, you'll never play as a division 1 college QB with that throwing motion. Auburn wants you at TE"



...then we proceeded to hire this genius, and on top of that, he took credit for Rivers' success to get the Ole Miss job.

Mazzowned...numerous times

[Edited on March 29, 2006 at 10:52 AM. Reason : ]

3/29/2006 10:52:04 AM

What are we going to blame our offensive deficiencies on this year? Marcus? Mazzone still? Chuck?

I'm just asking now so I don't have to think about it during the year...



[Edited on March 29, 2006 at 10:54 AM. Reason : sp?]

3/29/2006 10:53:30 AM

Quote :

"Rly? That was some major talent scouting. GG"

seriously, a mod?



and all this shit about our recruits' stars dropping after they commit is bs. unc low star recruits might rise once they commit but i dont think i have ever seen our recruits drop.


and tramain hall comitted and came, what more do you want?

3/29/2006 10:54:53 AM

Elijah Dukes was a 5-star I believe. Linebacker that committed to us in about 2000 but elected to go play pro baseball instead. That count?

3/29/2006 10:55:49 AM

Wasn't Burke a 5-star at one point. Then committed to NC State and dropped a star.

3/29/2006 10:56:52 AM

^Nope 4. (At least per scout...not sure about Rivals). He dropped to a 3

Quote :

"i dont think i have ever seen our recruits drop. "

Well, most recently... Justin Burke dropped from #6 QB in the nation to #17 in the nation after rumors were he was going to commit to NC State



(Granted, that's becuase other QB's tapes hadn't been reviewed yet and some were updated to rankings above Burke)



[Edited on March 29, 2006 at 10:57 AM. Reason : ]

3/29/2006 10:57:11 AM

Quote :

"seriously, a mod?"

3/29/2006 11:01:37 AM

Quote :

"and all this shit about our recruits' stars dropping after they commit is bs. unc low star recruits might rise once they commit but i dont think i have ever seen our recruits drop."

PackBacker is correct, also, TBs dropped as well.

3/29/2006 11:02:16 AM

Toney dropped a star a month after the season ended, and Cameron Sexton rose from what a UNC recruiting analyst called "barely a 3 star" to a 4 star when he committed.

3/29/2006 11:05:18 AM

yeah, there's obviously nothing fishy going on there, is there?

3/29/2006 11:06:30 AM

wasnt kiker a 5 star?

3/29/2006 11:07:14 AM

^ and a first round pick too

3/29/2006 11:13:56 AM

Deraney should've been if he wasn't.

3/29/2006 11:14:24 AM

I haven't heard much about Justin Burke here recently, what's up with him??

3/29/2006 11:16:35 AM

Deraney was a 4 star, Justin Burke is finishing High School and well be here this summer

3/29/2006 11:18:26 AM

^thanks

3/29/2006 11:25:37 AM

http://Justin.Burke.youaremighty.com

3/29/2006 11:33:10 AM

who gives a shit?

3/29/2006 11:48:34 AM

I just thought it was funny....

3/29/2006 11:49:33 AM

oh no, ahaha, i didn't mean the link

i was talking about a player's rating after we've got him. it really doesn't matter to me if he's 1 star or 5, as long as he produces when we get him.

3/29/2006 11:51:03 AM

one question .... do we get any like ... bonus for these kids rating ? or does it just make our machismo raise ? .... if Burke was a 4 star, and is now a 3 -after- he commited... why do we give a flying fuck ?

3/29/2006 12:18:38 PM

meh, that was too harsh

[Edited on March 29, 2006 at 12:20 PM. Reason : sghkhk]

3/29/2006 12:19:32 PM

Just brings up national rankings, which in turn gets our name out there to more recruits....

3/29/2006 12:19:52 PM

^so does winning

3/29/2006 1:08:54 PM

Rankings are for fans only and bragging rights. All that matters is what happens on the field.


NC State's best players were mostly lowly-rated high school players

3/29/2006 1:13:03 PM

we need a 5-star qb

3/29/2006 1:27:30 PM

we need a 5 star coach

3/29/2006 1:30:20 PM

FIRE HERB

3/29/2006 1:43:08 PM