cause you know we wont lose two coaches this close together.

i wanted frank solich

[Edited on April 1, 2006 at 11:27 PM. Reason : aha, got me]

4/1/2006 11:25:28 PM

who would be the other fired coach

4/1/2006 11:27:26 PM

I Supported both Chuck and Herb, but if one actually HAD to go, I would have chosen Chuck.

4/1/2006 11:32:42 PM

4/1/2006 11:36:16 PM

^ please god, that would be fine with me

signed, me

now that all this has happened, i just would like to see an established coach like that from a power conference, hopefully we can at least pull that

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 1:22 AM. Reason : ]

4/2/2006 1:20:19 AM

i still find it funny that he got a raise

4/2/2006 1:21:41 AM

7 wins or chuck is Gone

and that is another thing u can take to the bank.

per Murphy's mouth by the way.

4/2/2006 1:24:53 AM

Y'all make it sound like Chuck is a bad coach.

He isn't. He just can't learn from his mistakes and stay out of his assistant coaches' hair.

4/2/2006 3:46:57 AM

people are too quick to pull the "fire" trigger.

4/2/2006 3:54:05 AM

We should have kept herb and stopped bitching, amato is the one that really needed to go.

4/2/2006 4:18:19 AM

Barnes for basketball

and

Cowher for Football.

Oh god I would literally squat in the middle of the room and take shit in my pants.

4/2/2006 4:21:46 AM

at least herb was mediocre

4/2/2006 4:47:06 AM

I don't see the connection between the two. If Amato wins he stays, if not he goes.

4/2/2006 7:17:20 AM

just don't understand why 10 years was not enough time for herb but 6 years is way too long for amato.

4/2/2006 1:40:49 PM

cause football=/= basketball

4/2/2006 1:42:23 PM

^^especially considering that we've had absolutely no football greatness for Chuck to follow in the footsteps of. Jesus people.

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 1:42 PM. Reason : .]

4/2/2006 1:42:49 PM

Quote :

"Oh god I would literally squat in the middle of the room and take shit in my pants."

And I would eat it

4/2/2006 1:43:08 PM

holy damn, that's just gross

4/2/2006 1:43:32 PM

I find it hysterical that most of the herb Loyalist already want Amato gone when he has been here far shorter than Herb. Yeah the last 2 seasons were kind of Pathetic, but he did do something that Herb fails to do consistantly...beat the Power House of the conference (For Amato - FSU, for Herb - UNC/Duke (take your pick)). And Amato did it twice. I say give him a couple more years and see what he can do, if he cant win at least 8 games per season over the next 2 years, then it might be time to look for that change.

I don't know why our assistants keep bouncing so damn fast (whether it is Amato bugs the shit ou of them, or whether our program is a feeder to NCAA Head Coaching/NFL Assistant Coaching). But I think if we can get a settled staff that does not play Musical Chairs every season, then we can top 8 games.

Oh yeah, and a fucking QB that can play the position - Every Week!!


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4/2/2006 1:50:18 PM

or an offense that can play in the first half.

4/2/2006 2:32:18 PM

Quote :

"Y'all make it sound like Chuck is a bad coach. He isn't. He just can't learn from his mistakes and stay out of his assistant coaches' hair."

Yea, I obviously don't think learning from mistakes or letting your assitants due their jobs as traits to judge a coach by.

4/2/2006 2:49:06 PM

i just see a good crop of coaches we could pick from right now in the college ranks...

and we pay amato way too much to win 5 or 6 games every year.

and while i think herb is a class act, i questioned his position at nc state as well.

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 4:30 PM. Reason : .]

4/2/2006 4:29:14 PM

i can't believe we lost herb and still have chuck

4/2/2006 4:47:42 PM

Amato over hypes and people get pissed off that he over hypes

Herb doesn't over hype and people get pissed off that he doesn't over hype

4/2/2006 4:50:17 PM

^^cry about it

^Like clockwork huh?

4/2/2006 4:53:13 PM

^fuck you, we'll see who cries when the new head coach is hired

you forget that lee fowler is still the AD

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 5:02 PM. Reason : ]

4/2/2006 5:01:51 PM

4/2/2006 5:49:42 PM

Quote :

"Y'all make it sound like Chuck is a bad coach. He isn't. He just can't learn from his mistakes and stay out of his assistant coaches' hair. "

That makes him a bad coach

Quote :

"...beat the Power House of the conference (For Amato - FSU, for Herb - UNC/Duke (take your pick)). And Amato did it twice. I say give him a couple more years and see what he can do"

He beat FSU 3 times actually.

You have it all wrong. Its not ok to just beat a powerhouse. Esp. not with the talent that we have here

4/2/2006 6:56:16 PM

Weve beaten UNC the same number of times in basketball and football over the past 2 years...0

4/2/2006 6:59:16 PM

people need to understand that before MA Foxe came here NC State did not have thoughts about Football. There is no storied past to NC State football. And Chuck hasn't been here as long as Hebert J. Sendek was.

4/2/2006 7:01:13 PM

Chuck only gets one chance per season. Herb gets 2-3. Chuck has also developed several pro athletes, and that speaks well for recruiting. Once he figures out how to build a solid O-line he will have a good program. Sendek couldn't develop one of the best players in the country into a respectable pro athlete.

4/2/2006 7:02:37 PM

^ teh sux is teh sux. no matter how many years. He elevated the program, but its evident that we have gotten all we are getting out of chuck. Time to move on

4/2/2006 7:02:37 PM

fuck it.

give Chuck 4-5 more seasons. I don't give a fuck

just make sure to "help him pack" (as you all offered to do for Herb) when we don't reach a BCS bowl game

4/2/2006 7:05:17 PM

Quote :

"especially considering that we've had absolutely no football greatness for Chuck to follow in the footsteps of."

Dude, you're forgetting that we're a football school now. Just wait until the season starts! We'll show UNC who's boss! LOL!

4/2/2006 7:05:26 PM

UNC has a decent defense this year

they will limit Stone to 2-10 passing for 25 yards and 30 yards rushing on 50 carries

4/2/2006 7:06:57 PM

Quote :

"Chuck has also developed several pro athletes"

Worst logic ever. Last I checked, there about 1000 times more spots available in the NFL than the NBA. By your own logic about "number of chances," Chuck in his six years has had vastly more opportunities to develop pro talent than Herb in his ten years thanks to the sheer number on the football team.

4/2/2006 7:09:00 PM

chuck has put people in the pros that are stars now. What did herb do? Todd Fuller? Wash out. Julius Hodge? NBADL. Herb does not develop talent.

4/2/2006 7:10:52 PM

i want herb

and i want bill cowher

4/2/2006 7:13:07 PM

who did Chuck put in the league thats a "star" ?

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 7:15 PM. Reason : n]

4/2/2006 7:13:44 PM

K Rob. Brian Williams. about to add Mario Williams and Philip Rivers (on the star level)

Adrian Wilson

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 7:16 PM. Reason : .]

4/2/2006 7:15:23 PM

Brian Williams is not a star. He didnt recruit K. Rob who is also not a star. You should have went with Adrian Wilson who Chuck didnt recruit and played for him for 1 season. P. Riv just be came a starter, and has career nfl game experience of 4 games and 17 completions

4/2/2006 7:19:01 PM

Quote :

"chuck has put people in the pros that are stars now."

Haha. Sure he did.

4/2/2006 7:21:04 PM

and he still didnt recruit adrain wilson. that list is only a little better than hodge powell grundy todd fuller. but i admit it has the potential to be a lot better.

4/2/2006 7:23:58 PM

K Rob is a pro bowler.

4/2/2006 7:31:27 PM

This Year's Basketball Roster: 14 players including Trevor Ferguson and Brandon Costner
This Year's Football Roster: 70 players

BTW, you forgot the Seans!

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 7:34 PM. Reason : ]

4/2/2006 7:33:42 PM

you people DO realize that Herb never coached Todd Fuller, right?

4/2/2006 7:42:28 PM

oh fuck that's right.

The past many years have been a complete mind fuck for me.

4/2/2006 7:47:06 PM

^^^^ pro bowler at kick returner doesnt make you a star

4/2/2006 8:11:48 PM

more than herb can account for.

4/2/2006 8:12:51 PM

^aha

4/2/2006 8:14:47 PM