what's all needed ??? and how long do you think it'll take to profit . . .

4/4/2006 10:29:32 AM

getting into the business before Vonage, SunRocket, Time Warner, et al. were already there would have been a good start, heh.

4/4/2006 10:40:55 AM

probably. i'm just curious how to set it up. at this job i interviewed they mentioned me maybe leading a project of them implementing voip . . . i was curious as to how to set up an entire network to do it.

i think i'd need a cisco switch like a 5300 and a place to order the numbers and the minutes at wholesale prices.

4/4/2006 10:48:14 AM

People will NOT care for excuses if their phones don't work. They'll badmouth the company if everything isn't working correctly the first time around and continues to work without breaking. If you don't have $100,000 per year and 3 years to invest right off the bat, don't bother.

4/4/2006 11:13:01 AM

If you have to ask this question....stop wasting your time.

4/4/2006 11:22:13 AM

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"i'd need a cisco switch like a 5300 "

First of all, it would help if you knew what a switch was. The 5300 is not a switch, but a voice gateway/access server.

Dude, you couldn't even set up CME on a router with explicit documentation. What makes you think you could actually run a VoIP company?

4/4/2006 11:23:10 AM

Digi,

this is fucked up, G. i was asking for some honest help not to be insulted. first off the CME had crazy bugs when running SIP. and as far as the 5300, okay its a access server. so how do you suggest i get the ball rolling on this.


amsterdam.

4/4/2006 11:32:45 AM

Well, what I was implying and what I'll say bluntly is that you don't appear to have the technical aptitude to do what you're thinking of doing.

Maybe I shouldn't judge that based on your posts here, but looking back at that thread when I was trying to help you get that router set up, you really seem to have very little in the way of networking knowledge.

4/4/2006 11:38:20 AM

i agree with bdigital

4/4/2006 11:51:55 AM

>.<

4/4/2006 11:53:24 AM

^ He's right. VOIP is a very iffy market at the moment. If you don't already have a 100% stable system with less than .01% bugs then don't bother. This isn't a system where some downtime is okay. 0 Downtime is the only acceptable thing in a customers mind.

Imagine trying to dial 911 and hearing "I'm sorry we are conducting maintanance" or no connection at all.

4/4/2006 11:53:49 AM

And if you try to build said system, save yourself some trouble, and SHOOT YOURSELF NOW.


I say this not because I think you're an idiot, but because what little experience I have with VOIP systems and converged routers tells me this is the worst idea ever.

4/4/2006 5:38:09 PM

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"little experience"

Well, that about sums it up, and it's clear that you have no idea what you're talking about. If you're trying to argue against the feasibility of VoIP, you're several years too late because it's here, it works, and it's only going to continue to evolve.

4/4/2006 5:45:07 PM

thread title = comedy


its like saying "how do i start satellite factory. how much money will i make?"

[Edited on April 4, 2006 at 5:54 PM. Reason : ]

4/4/2006 5:52:58 PM

vonage is going down the drain because now there are like 300 competitors and their only value proposition is "brand recognition"...the woohoo commercials will not sell VOIP alone...so goodbye vonage...it's just going to be one of those low cost provider wins sort of industries imo (this is coming from studying vonage in bus560 with deepak)

4/4/2006 5:55:46 PM

^ So your opinion is really what some guy told you in a class?

4/4/2006 5:59:46 PM

eventually, all third party VoIP providers will fold as ISPs roll out their own offerings which come complete with end to end QoS and better uptime. As provider lines become more saturated as residential broadband becomes more prevalent, QoS will become critical. And then vonage, packet8, and the rest will fold.

4/4/2006 6:00:58 PM

Bobby- I wasn't arguing about the feasbility of VOIP, but the feasibility of a single college individual getting such a system for starting a buisness up and running.

[Edited on April 4, 2006 at 6:07 PM. Reason : .]

4/4/2006 6:06:44 PM

I <3 *

4/4/2006 7:06:30 PM

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"QoS will become critical. And then vonage, packet8, and the rest will fold."

esp since the ISPs will give priority to their VoIP service degrading the quality for the add on guys

4/4/2006 7:10:45 PM

i think alot of the VoIP providers are ahead of the curve, but what I noticed is alot of ISP's are blocking ports that disable the ability for VoIP carriers to go over their networks until they jump into the market.

it's going to be interesting . . .

4/4/2006 7:28:20 PM

Unless you have a ton of start up capital or years to invest, and then it would be improbable at best but could be done (not saying successful just could be completed). You would be better suited to take a good small voip company already established and sale service for them and maybe if everthing goes buy the company.(I know this is big dreaming but it would be easier to do that than produce your own)

[Edited on April 4, 2006 at 8:12 PM. Reason : getting on tww now I know I have the flu]

4/4/2006 8:10:48 PM

quality free product with an upsale pay service

4/4/2006 8:22:03 PM

but in terms of actually setting and designing a voip network what all is needed. answer as if capital wasn't an issue and you were hired to be the know it all guy.

4/4/2006 8:41:23 PM

WERE NOT GOING TO DO YOUR GOD DAMNED JOB FOR YOU OR HELP YOU BULLSHIT YOUR WAY THROUGH ANOTHER INTERVIEW

4/4/2006 8:57:44 PM

there is a market avaiable for SMB VoIP needs, similar to what http://www.bandwidth.com is doing

4/4/2006 9:24:55 PM

There is an office nazi at my old job that is currently ruining the new building at Durham Tech.

He thought the VoIP was the only thing the new building needed so he had NO copper ran to the building at all.

And just as Perlith said, people don't play around with the telephone. It is the one technology that everyone expects to pick up and have it work.

Needless to say you aren't ready for VoIP if you can't even get the basic configuration right.

4/4/2006 9:39:13 PM

there's totally a market for it. definitely and the shit actually works. i set up a cisco ip phone system and it was a pain in the ass to get started, mostly cause I was never trained on it. but once it was installed it was excellent. and the cost savings is ridiculous, especially international rates.

reliability is an issue though. it seems like there's about 300-400 small VoIP companies. i'm not sure what's going to distinguish the good from the bad ones.

4/4/2006 10:09:12 PM

is it a project or a company?

4/4/2006 10:17:39 PM

PROJECT for an established company that has money to burn. they want to start offering voip solutions for their clients.

4/4/2006 10:38:59 PM

Just shut the fuck up.

4/4/2006 10:42:21 PM

if you can make a VoIP company's service work with my DirecTV Tivo, I'll sign up for your service for life

4/4/2006 11:14:23 PM

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"there's totally a market for it. definitely and the shit actually works."

Sure there is, but you are going to have a hell of a time trying to entering it.

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"i set up a cisco ip phone system and it was a pain in the ass to get started, mostly cause I was never trained on it. but once it was installed it was excellent. and the cost savings is ridiculous, especially international rates."

How many people were on this system? How many phones were on this system? Will it scale? (And setting up a preexisting product is NOT the same as offering a service through a company).

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"reliability is an issue though. it seems like there's about 300-400 small VoIP companies. i'm not sure what's going to distinguish the good from the bad ones."

Proof research needs to be done.

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"You can have something fast, cheap or high-quality. If you have a good project, you will get two of the three. It's almost impossible to have all three."

Forgot exactly who said that ... somebody from my CSC295N course.

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"answer as if capital wasn't an issue and you were hired to be the know it all guy."

I would answer by saying somebody (whomever) needs to be trained for 2+ years in all sorts of VoIP, Networking, and Business related topics. I would insist that individual have 20+ years prior experience in new technologies and markets. I would then say that individual needs 2+ years to do proper research for the company before entering an extremely risky multimillion dollar venture.

4/5/2006 5:43:00 AM