Which will we get first in the area? I can't figure out why the triangle isn't higher up on the list to get fiber to the home or 'hood.

4/4/2006 12:33:51 PM

it's already to the curb for our pilot in san antonio, tx

wimax will maintain more coverage for a while though if not forever

telcos are coming out with complete voip/iptv/hsia solutions very soon

4/4/2006 12:36:11 PM

I think the "internet through electrical lines" is the best technology out there.

4/4/2006 12:36:45 PM

^ I can't tell if that was a joke or not, but in case it wasn't, that's a horrible, horrible technology that will see its final death knell very soon.

4/4/2006 12:39:01 PM

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"I think the "internet through electrical lines" is the best technology out there."

what ridiculous information are you basing that off of - i can't wait to hear

4/4/2006 12:39:08 PM

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"it's already to the curb for our pilot in san antonio, tx"

I know, it makes me jealous to know there are quite a few places out there that are getting it (even if only in trials) and we in the triangle aren't. I suppose it's because we are spread out a bit too much for a trial?

4/4/2006 12:43:15 PM

relax... you guys know a thread around here can't survive unless something idiotic is said.


I would think that the RTP area would be high up on the "test" markets for the newest technology though.

4/4/2006 12:59:02 PM

We need this

http://www.utopianet.org/corporate.htm

4/4/2006 1:10:51 PM

the test markets right now are where telcos have a large corporate presence - there are no large telco companies with large facilities in rtp are there?

4/4/2006 1:56:16 PM

I GUESS YOU COULD SAY FIBER IS GOING TO KICK BPL...TO THE CURB?

4/4/2006 2:00:46 PM

that was horrible frosh - go back to chit chat

4/4/2006 2:02:21 PM

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"the test markets right now are where telcos have a large corporate presence - there are no large telco companies with large facilities in rtp are there? "

Not sure about exact facilities, but you would have to imagine that Bellsouth or att/sbc/whatever the hell we are now would see this area as a market to test some stuff. It's considered a young professional market with many hi-tech jobs. As many people of the "computer" generation as there are in the area should attract some attention for such projects..

4/4/2006 2:32:57 PM

What do you mean by large?

I'd guess at least 5 sites with several thousand people at them?

I'd think SAS, IBM, GSK, Cisco, and maybe a few of the other tech players. Maybe I am overestimating by a lot.

4/4/2006 2:36:08 PM

he's talking telcos, not just large tech companies.

The telcos are the ones who'll be deploying the technology made by Cisco or whomever.

4/4/2006 2:41:12 PM

P.S. BobbyDigital liked my post!!1

4/4/2006 2:48:00 PM

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"Not sure about exact facilities, but you would have to imagine that Bellsouth or att/sbc/whatever the hell we are now would see this area as a market to test some stuff. It's considered a young professional market with many hi-tech jobs. As many people of the "computer" generation as there are in the area should attract some attention for such projects.."

att/sbc doesn't have a presence almost at all in rtp - bellsouth has a small one - but they are about to be att

if verizon/mci were going to do a pilot it would more than likely be in colorado springs or somewhere in the northeast

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"What do you mean by large? I'd guess at least 5 sites with several thousand people at them? I'd think SAS, IBM, GSK, Cisco, and maybe a few of the other tech players. Maybe I am overestimating by a lot."

you are an idiot - listen to bobbydigital

[Edited on April 4, 2006 at 3:11 PM. Reason : .]

4/4/2006 3:09:10 PM

Yea, I just didn't really take the time to comprehend what you posted, no need to be an asshole you peice of shit.

4/4/2006 3:23:14 PM

ADSL is still selling like hot cakes...

Fiber to the Curb just hit its matured generation this year with GPON(2.488Gb/s down/1.244Gb/s up) previous releases were APON(155sym) and BPON(622/155Mb/s). (theres also EPON but I don't think they have ever considered that a viable solution)

the current deployments are BPON solutions and are going to get the shaft when this stuff goes mass market b/c the full release will most likely be GPON.

WiMax seems like it should be a LOT easier to deploy however you are fundamentally limited in the speeds available wirelessly as well as subscribers (only so much RF/UW bandwidth available that the government doesn't suck up) but Verizon has pledged to put 4million fiber lines every year for the next 5 years... Bell south... not so much... SBC is another MAJOR player in the game. so getting a fiber run straight to your house isn't out of the question by any means... they've come up with pretty easy and efficient ways to do it (I.e. Passive Optical Networks = xPON)

All the telco's formed the Joint Procurement Committy, to select viable solutions for FTTx. One major problem is that its only a loose standard and different company solutions don't work with one another. You have to have an All motorola or alcatel or whoever solution...

bassically whoever makes the cheapest modem is going to win... Problem is that a triple play modem is crazy expensive... but then again so is that stupid Digital TV cable box that so many of us already pay extra for AND the road runner modem... so its not like customers aren't ready to pay more for provisioned 100Meg data lines.

BUT The technology exists, it works, and its in the workings. The ADSL stuff that is hitting the market was developed in raleigh 8 years ago... so that goes to show the lag in R&D and when it hits the market.

4/4/2006 7:57:42 PM

gofigure: the tester of the 85 gb/s fiber line termination rack

i bet those test ONTs get mad fast porno

4/4/2006 10:56:50 PM

^^Ada boy brian.....knew you learned something from work

4/4/2006 11:08:37 PM

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" I suppose it's because we are spread out a bit too much for a trial?"

With 20+ Km reaches... being spread out isn't the issue, especially since the biggest deployments are in Georgia and Texas... a lot more spread out than Raleigh...

it is in fact a matter of where the Telco's have their own head quarters and labs and such.

one nice thing about fiber is the bandwidth is astronomical (but not unlimited (dispersion losses in the fiber)) AND its very easy to go from EPON to BPON to GPON solutions its just a matter of replacing the modems and a blade in a shelf... the fiber stays the same... but DSL is setup pretty much the same way, so that’s nothing new.

4/5/2006 1:07:13 AM