It's funny how no one sais a fucking thing when Lance BLOOD DOPINGArmstrong get away with his shit consistently. He's using every trick in the cot damn book!!!! but yet, he is hailed like fucking Adolf Hitler in pre war Germany.

All he got was a lil speculation, and bygons were bygons. I wish I went to tour de france, I would have been the fan to come out of the woods, cloaked in nothing but a French Flag, to russian cycle his gay, blood doping ass off that bike.

Oh America the great.

4/5/2006 12:41:41 AM

[no]

4/5/2006 12:44:26 AM

amrstrong was tested repeadtedly. he was the "random suprise sample" that they chose at random the day before his last tour. get off his back...people hate him because he is the best.

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 12:45 AM. Reason : ]

4/5/2006 12:44:42 AM

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"people hate him because he is the best."

a truer thing could not be said of bonds

4/5/2006 12:46:26 AM

Shouldn't you be the one getting off of Barry Bonds' cock?????

4/5/2006 12:47:09 AM

yea right, like im gonna believe that. He just so happen to be the random sample huh?? I don't even think there are test for blood doping. Correct me if Im wrong.

Steriods is not an MLB issue, its not a Bonds issue, its a sports issue. The media is placing all the burdens of illegal drug usage on this man. Its not fair. I want more investigation of more athletes period. Every one is on his back, with no factual evidence only heresay.

4/5/2006 12:50:10 AM

If it walks like a duck...

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 12:52 AM. Reason : read the SI article then come back and tell me you don't think Bonds is juicing]

4/5/2006 12:51:34 AM

another brilliant post by leatherneck

4/5/2006 12:51:48 AM

bonds is crying on espn

4/5/2006 12:55:45 AM

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"people hate him because he is the best"

no, i hate him because he's a smug asshole who thinks he can treat everyone like shit

4/5/2006 12:56:41 AM

he never did anything illegal

^if everyone hated me, i'd be pissed at the world too

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 12:57 AM. Reason : plus he's the best hitter in 50 years]

4/5/2006 12:57:01 AM

5^man im not reading that fake incriminating partonizing bullshit. Anybody can fester some lies to make someone look bad. Ok the guy put on some lbs, and started knocking the shit out of some balls (which he's been doing his entire career) wupdie damn doo!!!

Fact is...there are no facts!!!

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 1:01 AM. Reason : x]

4/5/2006 1:00:44 AM

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"if everyone hated me, i'd be pissed at the world too"

you don't see people hating albert pujols for being good. he just plays the game and is greatful for the opportunity. people hate him because he's an asshole, not the other way around

4/5/2006 1:03:44 AM

4/5/2006 1:05:35 AM

well regardless, he doesn't owe "being nice" to anyone

and he's still a legend, millionaire, first ballot hall-of-famer, soon-to-be home run king, and seven-time MVP

so you know, whatever

4/5/2006 1:09:25 AM

i realize that, but he's smart enough to know the consequences of his aloof behavior. don't whine if you can't take it

4/5/2006 1:16:34 AM

Yeah, hate on the man, throw shit just b/c of his personality
People can be so stupid sometimes. He is a human being man. This is just a fucking game (baseball).

Which bring another point to mind. Lets just put the world of sports under a magnifying glass as a whole. Wayne Gretzky and his money hungry bitch of a wife = media silence. Oh, and Hockey players juice up also!!!

I don't see anyone creating articles on all the illegal shit going on in that sport Gee, I wonder why? It just seems that when it come to the "Golden Boys" of the game, no one jumps on their case. But when Bonds is about to pwnt baseballs most prestigious record, oh god, he's a cheater folks!!

Lets hate him b/c of his personality and he's a meanie. Shame on you Bonds.

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 1:25 AM. Reason : xxx]

4/5/2006 1:17:14 AM

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"This is just a fucking game (baseball)."

no baseball is not just a game. it's America's fucking pastime for Christ's sake. people are getting mad b/c it's something that was once universally pure among us, and now in the early 90's onward there have been a ton of douchebags desanctifying it, and people are getting pissed off about it. this is a game that nearly everyone played at one point or another. tell me why the number of 50 HR seasons per player from the 90's onward has eclipsed that of the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s combined? it isn't because of improvements on equipment, or training. that wouldn't warrant such a huge jump. a bat is a bat, and a ball is a ball in the game of baseball. if anything the pitchers have gotten better. he was involved in the BALCO scandal, and that's what adds more fuel to the fire. the bottom line is why should we even be trying to use unnatural methods to beef up our bodies. why can't athletes just go out, work hard, eat right, and exercise enough to not have to shortcut their way to having a stronger body?

4/5/2006 1:46:24 AM

baseball is not just a game. it's a fucking boring, awful, antiquated piece of shit.

4/5/2006 1:53:27 AM

^^Bullshit, baseball has never been "pure"

Aside from obvious scapegoats like the 1919 sox and pete rose (who were not the only ones to ever bet on baseball), the game, even at the professional level, has been full of incidences of players doing anything they can do to get ahead - hitters corking bats, pitchers scuffing balls, baserunners stealing signs - in baseball, if you're not cheating, you're not trying.

4/5/2006 1:59:06 AM

*

4/5/2006 2:08:16 AM

let's get two things clear

1. Armstrong is a doper. Cycling is notorious for only finding out about cyclers doping after they die, or get caught by the police with illegal substances

2. Bonds is a doper.

In both situations, both individuals have strong ties to individuals who are neck deep in drugs and doping.

p.s. Armstrong is not a blood doper. That is too easily caught.

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 2:13 AM. Reason : .]

4/5/2006 2:12:42 AM

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" Which bring another point to mind. Lets just put the world of sports under a magnifying glass as a whole. Wayne Gretzky and his money hungry bitch of a wife = media silence. Oh, and Hockey players juice up also!!!"

'

bullshit, hockey has the most stringent steroid policy of the 4 major sports. furthermore, steroids do not help you score goals. more power behind your shot does jack shit 90% of the time... its all about finesse

4/5/2006 2:14:15 AM

he is racist

4/5/2006 2:16:03 AM

there is a lot of retarded flying around this thread

4/5/2006 2:19:02 AM

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"there is a lot of retarded flying around this thread"

whatever the hell that means.

4/5/2006 2:20:55 AM

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"there is a lot of retarded flying around this thread"

so true

4/5/2006 2:23:26 AM

3^ shit dosn't even make sense. Self pwnt.

My whole point is, fans now think it's ok to toss shit a players. If he had pulled a Ron Artest an beat the living hell out of that fan, he would have been noted a bad guy/ steroid user. One thing leads to another. If your're gonna patronize the man, fine, but throwing shit is just taking it too far.

But of fucking cry babies. There's no cryin in baseball. He will pwnt that record, and I can't wait to that day. Im not even a fan of the guy, im all for the principle. And I want him to shit on Americas "favorite past time" for the way he has been treated. If he is found guilty, then he will get what he deserves. But until then.

SHUT THE FUCK UP

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 2:35 AM. Reason : .]

4/5/2006 2:27:37 AM

it pretty much means what it says

4/5/2006 2:27:43 AM

it does make sense, lets break it down

there is a lot of retarded... stupid comments left and right

flying around this thread...flying around this thread


not too hard

4/5/2006 2:29:26 AM

^thank you

4/5/2006 2:29:45 AM

then you're retarded, both of you, b/c what he said:

Quote :

"there is a lot of retarded flying around this thread"

does not make sense. Instead, there are alot of retardS flying around this thread (period). Make a correct fuckin sentence (that includes a period at the end). Atleast the next time you call somebody, or attempt to call somebody retarded.

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 2:43 AM. Reason : x]

4/5/2006 2:39:33 AM

^ all i have to say is

There is a lot of retarded flying around this thread


Leatherneck
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[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 2:42 AM. Reason : haha, using html]

4/5/2006 2:42:12 AM

i am graciously sorry, and it will probably, never happen again

4/5/2006 2:42:54 AM

^^^ also, i think you undertood what he meant and that's all that matters

the internet is full of slang and bad grammar, get used to it

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 2:44 AM. Reason : ^^^]

4/5/2006 2:44:17 AM

No, I know what the hell he meant asshole....

*sigh*

4/5/2006 2:47:21 AM

I don't agree with the throwing of the syringe at Bonds, but I have no problem with fans showing their displeasure with him through other means, i.e. signs, booing, etc. Yes professional baseball has had some notorious cheaters in its history, but so have plenty of other sports out there. but then again baseball is one of the older sports in America, allowing for more discoveries of how to get an edge. This doesn't make cheating right though. also i agree with puck_it's statement about scoring goals in hockey is more about finesse than power. yes a quick and powerful shot will aid you to a degree, albeit in not much, but in hockey it's mainly about placement of the puck. this coming from a guy that has played ice hockey since he was 4 years old. i still don't understand why so many players go for the glove side though. why not the blocker side. it's way harder for the goalie to move as quick, plus it is more unexpected since he has gotten so much practice with the glove side anyways. maybe they think they're being flashy, i don't know. a mystery that we'll never know the true answer to.

4/5/2006 3:32:44 AM

Home Runs
1988-24
1990-33
1992-34
1993-46
1994-37
1995-33
1996-42
1997-40
1998-37
1999-34
2000-49
2001-73
2002-46
2003-45
2004-45
Act-708
Car-708

if you look at his numbers its obvious that he was taking steroids after the 99 season...his hr's jumped 15 in one year then 24 the next. im not saying other people dont do it too but im saying he should own up to it. jason giambi did and nobody bitches about him anymore and he had a decent year last year (.271, 32hr, 87 rbi). nobody made a big deal about sammy and mcguire because they were "saving" baseball when they did it. my point is they should put an asterik by anyones name who breaks records saying they were on steroids. i dont like bonds personally because he wont come clean and face the issue...hes a hell of a ball player and wouldve made a serious run at these records if he hadnt juiced up.

4/5/2006 8:23:03 AM

The whole "he's just a really good hitter and now he's bigger and can hit homeruns because he worked out" does not work anymore. If memory serves me correct (and I'm pretty sure it does) Bonds admitted to using the cream and the clear while under oath, he just didn't know about it (which any semi-intelligent individual knows is a bullshit claim).

So at the absolute BEST, we know for a fact that Bonds has used steroids, just didn't "realize" what he was doing...bottom line

4/5/2006 9:01:04 AM

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"I don't even think there are test for blood doping."

blood doping is easy to test for

do you even know what "blood doping" is

or did you just hear someone say it enough that you figured you could run with it

i have a lot of complaints about lance armstrong, but i only say he is a "doper" if i'm trolling

4/5/2006 10:05:07 AM

bttt

4/5/2006 4:07:38 PM

Quote :

"I don't even think there are test for blood doping. Correct me if Im wrong. "

a test for synthetic EPO has been developed in the last year, and all of Lance's previous samples tested positive under the new test. However, Olympic guidelines for testing prevent testing record samples a second time, so it would be illegal to accuse Lance Armstrong of blood doping.

But I think that's besides the point. The man had testicular cancer, which means he's on hormone replacement therapy for life. Steroids increase red blood cell count on their own, so even without taking EPO or additional blood - he's still blood doping.

4/5/2006 4:42:06 PM

Barry Bonds cried on tv yesterday. You cannot cry when you are that big. He sounded like a 3rd grader.

4/5/2006 4:43:16 PM

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"blood doping is easy to test for "

actually, blood doping in the form of adding your own stored plasma back into your body is almost impossible to check for. Athletes normally have higher red blood cell counts than other people, so it's hard to set standards for it. sythetic blood doping has been undetectable until the last year.

4/5/2006 4:45:10 PM

uh

elevated crit #s?

4/5/2006 4:47:30 PM

2^ thank you. I thought that's what it was.

4/5/2006 4:49:40 PM

how can anyone be on Bond's cock? It has prolly shrunk a bunch from all the steroids...

4/5/2006 4:51:37 PM

^ thats why he was crying

4/5/2006 4:53:30 PM

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"mcguire"

You know so much about baseball you can't spell a future HOFer's name right.

4/5/2006 4:54:42 PM

its funny that Lance Armstrong is the most tested athlete in the world
he must have big sleeves to keep all of those tricks

4/5/2006 4:55:45 PM