omicron101 All American 3662 Posts user info edit post |
Interesting article on Yahoo today:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2627&ncid=2627&e=9&u=/space/20060405/sc_space/fishylandbeastbridgesevolutionarygap 4/6/2006 11:47:46 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
As is evolution needed a push. 4/6/2006 11:53:30 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Haha pretty cool stuff.
I wish I could see that animal in action, it sounds really awkward. 4/6/2006 11:54:09 AM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
they were discussing this on NPR... the guy who talked about it said that it was "a missing link" not "the missing link" and that you needed more.
somewhat unrelated my astronomy professor says that the earths magnetic field switches polarity (which side is north and which side is south) occasionally, and during the intermission between alot more radiation gets in and life mutates alot faster which might account partially for the gaps. (the sun switches like every 11 years, its easier for a gaseous body to do it than something fairly solid like the earth) 4/6/2006 12:10:49 PM |
rudeboy All American 3049 Posts user info edit post |
^dr egler is the man. he is incredibly smart. 4/6/2006 12:50:01 PM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
God obviously planted that fossil there to test the faith of His true followers. 4/6/2006 1:09:20 PM |
moonman All American 8685 Posts user info edit post |
SOUNDS LIKE MORE PRO-EVOLUTIONIST PROPAGANDA FROM THE ATHEIST MEDIA. 4/6/2006 1:10:00 PM |
Waluigi All American 2384 Posts user info edit post |
THE FURTHER LIBERALIZING OF AMERICA BY THE PRO-COMMUNIST, PRO-DEATH, ATHEIST MEDIA 4/6/2006 2:35:41 PM |
omicron101 All American 3662 Posts user info edit post |
^ and ^^ it may surprise you to know that not all those who support the theory of evolution are atheist, pro communist or pro death as you put it. so ask yourselves, who's really the one spreading the propaganda? 4/6/2006 2:58:27 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
You are brutally retarded. 4/6/2006 3:04:41 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
^^It may surprise you to know that they were using sarcasm.
[Edited on April 6, 2006 at 3:05 PM. Reason : ^^] 4/6/2006 3:04:55 PM |
E30turbo Suspended 1520 Posts user info edit post |
in other words
IT SOUNDS LIKE SCIENCE!
NEVAR IN OUR HOMES!!!
QUICK!!! TO THE MICROWAVE!!! 4/6/2006 3:13:17 PM |
omicron101 All American 3662 Posts user info edit post |
yes it does surprise me to know. i was hoping this would be a more serious discussion. 4/6/2006 3:14:04 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Meh, the whole evolution v. creation thing has been debated ad nausea. The end result:
Some creationists wouldn't accept evolution if there was a complete transitional fossil record and some evolutionists wouldn't accept creationism if God himself came down and confirmed it.
[Edited on April 6, 2006 at 3:20 PM. Reason : -] 4/6/2006 3:19:42 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "somewhat unrelated my astronomy professor says that the earths magnetic field switches polarity (which side is north and which side is south) occasionally, and during the intermission between alot more radiation gets in and life mutates alot faster which might account partially for the gaps. (the sun switches like every 11 years, its easier for a gaseous body to do it than something fairly solid like the earth)" |
I know there's pretty solid evidence that this happens, and I believe it does, but can you give an explanation of the mechanism that causes pole shifts to a non-science major? Everything I've read about that simply states the evidence for the phenomenon's existence, but never goes into detail about what causes it. I'm very curious about that.
I read a lot of science articles, so don't be afraid to get somewhat technical, but it's quite possible to go over my head.
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As for the article:
TRUTH FISH EATS THE FISH-GATOR!!14/6/2006 3:21:54 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MISSING LINK BETWEEN THE MISSING LINK AND THE SPECIES 4/6/2006 3:23:44 PM |
omicron101 All American 3662 Posts user info edit post |
^^^yeah, the same goes for most moral issues i guess. i just hate that some people won't even consider another possibility, on either side. or the ones who try and convert you to their beliefs.
[Edited on April 6, 2006 at 3:24 PM. Reason : .] 4/6/2006 3:23:46 PM |
moonman All American 8685 Posts user info edit post |
I hate people who refer to evolution as a belief. 4/6/2006 5:08:23 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
As opposed to... 4/6/2006 5:12:29 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
an evidence derived theory. 4/6/2006 5:23:34 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
"I know there's pretty solid evidence that this happens, and I believe it does, but can you give an explanation of the mechanism that causes pole shifts to a non-science major? "
I'm a non science major so I can give you the understanding I have but as a non science major I'm sure this isn't fully accurate. As a philosophy major I've looked at creationism & god alot more from theological & philosophical perspectives than scientific ones (although I've looked at it from as much of a scientific perspective as I can having taken all the astronomy classes that’s allowed to an undergrad - 2 classes & 1 lab)
I mentioned it also happens in the sun. The magnetic field goes around the body (star or planet). The top thinner part, and wider middle equator part move at the same angular rate, but the middle to cover a lot more distance in the same amount of time actually goes faster. In a gaseous body like the sun this twists & tangles up the magnetic field really fast until it shifts to the other way around. During the transition period it kind of dissipates or is in arranged in a way where it doesn’t really protect from radiation well, but then comes back with the opposite end being north & south magnetically. With the earth it takes a lot longer (maybe like everything 10 thousand to 1 million years or something) for it to get tangled up & flip b/c the earth is more solid so things don’t rotate as differentially as they do with the sun that’s a gas. 4/6/2006 5:26:38 PM |
supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Gamecat: can you give an explanation of the mechanism that causes pole shifts to a non-science major?" |
I'm not entirely sure about this, but I remember it having to do with the molten iron center at the core of the earth and the convection currents of magma below the crust. I wish I could go into more detail but alas, i'm not a science major either.
Quote : | "omicron101: i was hoping this would be a more serious discussion." |
Ok, This fish is the work of Satan. I saw the devil plant it in the ground so that godless scientist could dig it up and blaspheme against the Creator, Seriously.4/6/2006 10:41:32 PM |
bigben1024 All American 7167 Posts user info edit post |
They are a bitch to get off of the hook. I always end up using pliers.
[Edited on April 6, 2006 at 10:59 PM. Reason : .] 4/6/2006 10:59:10 PM |