hear me out people. give me a fair shake here folks.

that sick fuck once said "taxes are the dues we pay for the privileges of membership in an
organized society"

(SC)

4/23/2006 5:26:03 PM

Politicians routinely hide their disabilities.

4/23/2006 5:27:08 PM

(mental cripple)

4/23/2006 5:27:45 PM

ill sum up the responses youll get:

he was a criminal failure b/c the new deal was not in touch with our libertarian values. ww2 is what made him noteworthy and not a total failure due to the horrid new deal.

there, i think i summed up what lonesnark and earthdogg and theduke were probably going to have a circle jerk over in a second anyway.

[Edited on April 23, 2006 at 5:29 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2006 5:28:48 PM

nah, I don't really have a huge quarrel with FDR.

LBJ is where everything shit the bed.


I mean, I don't like the slippery slope it put us on, and I think that some things should've only been temporary, but all in all, I'm not an FDR hater.

[Edited on April 23, 2006 at 5:57 PM. Reason : asdf]

4/23/2006 5:54:17 PM

this thread is awful and should be locked

4/23/2006 5:56:44 PM

i really really want a big copy of the "Unfinished Portrait"

4/23/2006 6:24:35 PM

my sister wrote her first history paper on why FDR was our best president.

fucker gave her a B-

4/23/2006 7:15:09 PM

Josiah Bartlett ftw.

4/23/2006 7:31:12 PM

David Palmer

4/23/2006 7:33:08 PM

JOSH: taxes ARE the dues you pay to live in a society.

because without society you're fucking worthless. think not? okay, go build some roads. go establish a police force to protect your community against crime. go institute an educational system, build your own farms and textile mills. go provide your own healthcare, and fire and emergency services. and more than that, be sure to provide for the sick, old, and infirm so that they can live with human dignity as members of the social group.

or better yet, go move your hateful self and your ugly family to some island, and save society the burden of having to provide for your sustenance when you grow old, get in an accident, become unemployed, develop cancer, or some other unfortunate event.

and by the way, you fucking welfare queen, GO PAY THE REAL VALUE of your state-subsidized higher education.




[Edited on April 23, 2006 at 8:16 PM. Reason : ]

4/23/2006 8:05:39 PM

ya i agree wit da quote

4/23/2006 8:11:20 PM

now i feel very bad about that threatening letter i sent to the general acounting office

4/23/2006 8:21:39 PM

to be honest though, do you really think he would've won if people knew he was a cripple

4/23/2006 8:59:16 PM

It would have hurt troop morale.

4/23/2006 10:28:34 PM

Quote :

"this thread is awful and should be locked "

haha thats the first thing i read that made me want to post here

4/23/2006 10:45:20 PM

and somehow, his head ended up on our dimes

4/23/2006 10:58:04 PM

^and they want to replace him with reagan

fuck that noise

YOU CANNOT TAKE FDR OFF THE DIME IF YOU UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ABOUT THE MAN

this goes beyond partisan revisionist history

ps

Quote :

"fucker gave her a B- "

perhaps fucker EARNED a B-

4/23/2006 11:23:45 PM

maybe they'll sell Reagan dimes

you know, like they did with W Ketchup

4/23/2006 11:27:13 PM

FDR was one of the most popular presidents in american history with the average american. He was hated by the super rich, and loved by the common man.

4/23/2006 11:31:03 PM

^and thats why its a shock he was elected at all.

4/23/2006 11:33:19 PM

he wasn't hated by the super rich at first

hell, he WAS the super rich

4/24/2006 12:15:07 AM

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"do you really think he would've won if people knew he was a cripple"

Roosevelt didnt appear out of thin air in 1932 to be elected president. he was Governor of New York before that. His disability was well known. his critics claimed that the country was in such bad shape that the strain of the presidency would be overwhelming for a man with his disability.

Hoover was so widely reviled, the Dems could have ran practically anyone against him and won. It was FDR's success as Governor of New York, and his landslide victory in 1930, inspired the Dems to nominate him.



[Edited on April 24, 2006 at 12:27 AM. Reason : ]

4/24/2006 12:26:31 AM

I named my parakeet FDR because he's a cripple. His leg sticks out at a 90-degree angle.

4/24/2006 12:29:21 AM

STILL TIPPIN'

4/24/2006 12:35:40 AM

i think we are all missing the point here. only i know the point, and ill decide when to let you all know, bc i am the decider.

4/24/2006 1:04:39 AM

How did this thread end up working?

4/24/2006 1:40:23 AM

^ because there wasnt really anything else going on in TSB at the moment.

4/24/2006 1:44:47 AM

becuase i am the conductor

4/24/2006 1:53:32 AM

you conduct things

4/24/2006 1:56:26 AM

Josh is the conductor. he is measured in units of Siemens.

4/24/2006 2:01:49 AM

i make threads. i am the maker.



[Edited on April 24, 2006 at 2:04 AM. Reason : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conductor_%28transportation%29 ^]

4/24/2006 2:03:48 AM

^

nope. Youre the conductor who's conductance is measured in Siemens. G=I/E.

Quote :

"1. angry conductor Inspired by the Angry Pirate, the Angry Conductor uses a modified approach where the male, being about to ejaculate, removes his member from his partner's mouth and ejaculates into his/her hair. The receiver of this spermy goodness then chases the donor around the room while using both hands to remove the semen from their hair, in a motion suggestive of an overly animated symphony conductor. Stick is optional. "I gave Lisa an Angry Conductor last night. Big mistake; she'd just paid $150 to have her hair done. I'm in deep shit now." "

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=angry+conductor

4/24/2006 2:13:13 AM

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"and thats why its a shock he was elected at all."

Who was shocked?

You might be thinking of truman v. dewey

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"he wasn't hated by the super rich at first"

What he said before he got elected and what he did after are two completely different things, that's how he got elected and because what he really did worked so well, he was reelected, and reelected, etc.

4/24/2006 2:31:54 AM

^ you, sir, are the enlarger. you enlarge things.

4/24/2006 2:47:00 AM

it aint easy bein greasy

4/24/2006 9:33:55 AM

Say what you want about FDR, but he did little to reverse the dramatic increase in the tax burden upon those with incomes below $100,000.

4/24/2006 10:08:13 AM

^ look at where the line plummets. That graph is more indicative of how many people there were making >$100,000 than tax rates.

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"he wasn't hated by the super rich at first hell, he WAS the super rich"

They felt like he betrayed them.

4/24/2006 12:08:54 PM

am i the only one that looked at florida's 7 votes and thought WTF?

4/24/2006 12:16:44 PM

That's before all the 20-somethings of that era moved down there.

4/24/2006 12:18:09 PM

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"Say what you want about FDR, but he did little to reverse the dramatic increase in the tax burden upon those with incomes below $100,000."

Your graph illustrates the stock market crash, I don't exactly know how you planned to make that imply anything more.

4/24/2006 12:28:32 PM

fdr is my favorite president

4/24/2006 12:29:48 PM

LoneSnark already said long ago he thinks FDR was a criminal

4/24/2006 12:41:07 PM

"Loneshark is an ass"
-FDR

4/24/2006 12:42:27 PM

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"Your graph illustrates the stock market crash, I don't exactly know how you planned to make that imply anything more."

That is why I included the 1920s as well. The reason the Rich were paying so much less in the 1930s was the same reason they were paying so little in the early 1920s. It wasn't because they didn't exist but because of poor governmental policies whose net effect was to soak the middle-class.

However, it does explain why the economy never recovered: draconian tax rates levied against the nations consumers further erroded economic activity. Whole forms of middle-class taxation that had been elimited during the 1920s were re-instated with disasterous effects. Between 1931 and 1932 those earning less than $25,000 a year were paying three times as much in absolute terms ($51.6M vs $134M) dispite growing unemployment and falling economic activity.

Quote :

"President Hoover radically changed course from the low-tax policies of the 1920s with the Revenue Act of 1932. That law sharply increased individual tax rates at all income levels, with the top rate rising from 25 percent to 63 percent. Following Hoover, President Roosevelt signed into law a series of large tax increases for taxpayers at all income levels. At the bottom end, personal exemptions were reduced, and an earned income credit was eliminated."

4/24/2006 2:30:38 PM