To all those who have participated/seen/know about Death Penalty Vigils:

What about the person who got murdered?

4/29/2006 6:53:57 PM

what about them?

4/29/2006 6:55:52 PM

How is this even an argument?

4/29/2006 7:22:06 PM

wow. i don't think even BridgetSPK could make such a shitty argument

4/29/2006 7:24:11 PM

I was about to go to Central to mock the vigil people the night we executed the 1,000th person, when somebody made a joke about how I'd probably get on camera and it would come back to haunt me if I ever ran for office.

It occurred to me that they were kidding on the square, and that even most Republicans would think twice about the kind of person who pointed and laughed at someone who was trying to save someone else's life.

I did, however, get several rounds of applause for the things I yelled at the protestors who were being dragged off at the inauguration.

4/29/2006 7:40:50 PM

Sorry if I didn't clarify.

I am trying to understand where the murder victim plays into the vigil. I'm not attempting to argue anything--just trying to understand. Thanks.

[Edited on April 29, 2006 at 7:49 PM. Reason : .]

4/29/2006 7:48:55 PM

killing someone doesnt bring another back to life.

4/29/2006 8:03:45 PM

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"How is this even an argument?"

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"wow. i don't think even BridgetSPK could make such a shitty argument"

4/29/2006 8:23:13 PM

The victim doesn't play into anywhere. These people don't support death as a punishment, period.

4/29/2006 9:00:01 PM

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"I am trying to understand where the murder victim plays into the vigil. I'm not attempting to argue anything--just trying to understand. Thanks."

we'll they're the victim, so they probably won't be at the vigil

4/29/2006 9:07:56 PM

Is the victim mentioned at the death penalty vigil?

4/29/2006 9:23:27 PM

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"wow. i don't think even BridgetSPK could make such a shitty argument"

I'm not that bad, you guys.

Many of you do not even post your own opinions. You just wait until someone posts his and then you attack it.

I have said some amazingly stupid shit on here, but I'm a genius so being wrong is cool.

[Edited on April 29, 2006 at 9:26 PM. Reason : ]

4/29/2006 9:25:30 PM

^^doubt it. (Do they even make speeches at those things?)

4/29/2006 9:34:27 PM

vigils have more to do with the punishment than the convict

4/29/2006 9:42:10 PM

^You are right. I am going to assume that all who attend a vigil are there for either a moratorium or the abolition of the death penalty.

[Edited on April 29, 2006 at 9:57 PM. Reason : .]

4/29/2006 9:47:59 PM

No shit.

Did you know things get wet when its raining?

4/29/2006 9:54:36 PM

its a government conspiracy. not really rain.

4/29/2006 9:55:19 PM

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"^You are right. I am going to assume that all who attend a vigil are there for either a moratorium or the abolition of the death penalty."

uhhh, wait what? were you confused about that initially?

4/29/2006 10:00:01 PM

I was not confused about the reason the vigil holders were there.

[Edited on April 29, 2006 at 10:12 PM. Reason : .]

4/29/2006 10:10:08 PM

what are you wondering about the relationship. if this is a horrible way of saying that they don't care about the victim you are doing a horrible job of saying it.

4/29/2006 10:13:27 PM

did you just change your message from "i was confused" to "i was not confused"??

4/29/2006 10:14:23 PM

haha, yes

4/29/2006 10:15:34 PM

I do not think in any way that the vigil holders do not care about the victim. If they care enough for a convict about to get executed they would certainly care about a murder victim.

[Edited on April 29, 2006 at 10:22 PM. Reason : .]

4/29/2006 10:19:20 PM

so, then what point were you trying to make or what were you trying to ask?

4/29/2006 10:25:24 PM

What do you want the vigil people to do for the victim?

4/29/2006 10:25:36 PM

Although I am not confused about the vigil holders' reasons for holding the vigil, I was attempting to understand the relationship between the victim, the person about to be executed and the vigil holders.

Just so to let it be known, I do not support the death penalty and am not trying to prove any point. Just looking for clarification.

[Edited on April 29, 2006 at 10:29 PM. Reason : .]

4/29/2006 10:27:30 PM

the person about to be executed probably killed the victim.
the vigil people wish to save the life of the person about to be executed.

its not that complicated.
now then. if you want you can ask "do they care about the victim?" but i thought i addressed that with the "killing another person wont bring the victim back to life"

4/29/2006 10:35:01 PM

RevoltNow,

You are completely right. Killing the convict will not bring the victim back. This is why I do not support the death penatly: Because killing someone who killed to show killing is wrong is illogical.

More directly, I am curious as to how the victim of the murder connects to the vigil holders.

[Edited on April 29, 2006 at 10:38 PM. Reason : .]

4/29/2006 10:38:28 PM

They don't!

4/29/2006 10:38:58 PM

On the surface, the murder victim does not appear to connect to the vigil holders. This is true.

But, I am trying to understand the victim in connection the vigil holders because the convict is also a murder victim because of the state-sanctioned murder.

So, the vigil holders might be actually protesting both the execution and the murder that eventually lead to the execution as a way of protesting killing in our society.

[Edited on April 29, 2006 at 10:45 PM. Reason : .]

4/29/2006 10:44:42 PM

there is only one answer here

they hate freedom, therefore they are glad the victim is dead.

4/29/2006 10:51:20 PM

I am quite certain the vigil holders do not hate freedom or are glad the victim is dead.

4/29/2006 10:55:33 PM

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"So, the vigil holders might be actually protesting both the execution and the murder that eventually lead to the execution as a way of protesting killing in our society."

The murder happened long ago and nobody can change that. The vigil is for the execution, and they're trying to show the gov they oppose capital punishment. The victim is kindof out of the picture at that point.

4/29/2006 10:59:05 PM

i think you're grasping to understand something that's not there.

4/30/2006 1:33:55 AM

I love it when the friends and family of the victim protest the execution. That shit's for real.

4/30/2006 2:38:30 AM

yep... those people are special

4/30/2006 12:31:04 PM

im still not sure what this kid is asking

4/30/2006 12:32:58 PM