Saw him there in the back where the bar is watching the draft. I gave him the "what's going on nod," and he said "how ya doing?" I was like "great" and then gave a quick look at the projection screen and gave him the thumbs up, to you know say, "hey good job coach, you should be proud" type of thing. He understood. I didn't bother him after that. I really don't like to bother people while they're trying to eat with their family, but I wanted to give him some acknowledgement b/c of today. The coaches did a good job developing those guys on the D-line.

4/29/2006 8:38:17 PM

no our record sucked so that must mean our defensive players were not developed enough.

4/29/2006 8:40:59 PM

it means that every high school D-line prospect that just saw the draft is thinking "Amato might get my broke ass PAID if I go play at NC State"

4/29/2006 8:42:12 PM

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"it means that every high school D-line prospect that just saw the draft is thinking "Amato might get my broke ass PAID if I go play at NC State""

we can only pray

4/29/2006 8:43:37 PM

We have some 300 pound DT on our prospect list thats 5 star already and has offers from every freakin school in the country. Maybe we can land him now.

4/29/2006 8:45:46 PM

not only paid, but CHAMPIONS of the Meineke Car Care Bowl!!

4/29/2006 8:46:00 PM

Bowl wont matter when they see that potential 60 million after Mario's name...and 26 guaranteed.

4/29/2006 8:48:16 PM

i think mccargo is just as or more important in this.
not only can we say we had the first round pick, but we can say we took a mid level (at best) prospect and turned him into the 26th pick.

[Edited on April 29, 2006 at 9:00 PM. Reason : added words]

4/29/2006 9:00:32 PM

McCargo is a good example for bringing in talent we already have a decent shot at getting, but Williams is going to be a good example for people that have no interest in college because they know they'll be playing at the next level.

4/29/2006 9:02:19 PM

what i meant was it allows us to say "look at what we did with him. imagine what we can do for you"

4/29/2006 9:06:57 PM

^ exactly

4/29/2006 9:08:33 PM

i really hope a amato booing incident doesn't happen this year like the Clemson game last year
amato is a damn good defensive coach and i would hate to see him go like herb

4/29/2006 9:20:03 PM

unlike Herb, I see our football program actually going somewhere with Amato. This draft season is proof of the direction he is taking the program, regardless of what our QB situation has been the last 2 years.

4/29/2006 9:27:35 PM

^^Two weeks after the booing this team turned around and finished strong.


Amato showed he was capable of change and it worked. The fans cant be mad at him after that, although he should have done something sooner. Herb was just a stubborn bitch.

4/29/2006 9:29:55 PM

you could also make an argument that a football program takes longer to develop than a basketball program

4/29/2006 9:29:59 PM

I don't think that's even an argument; more of a fact that football takes longer to develop than basketball.

4/29/2006 9:31:27 PM

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"Herb was just a stubborn bitch."

stubborn means never conceding you're wrong

4/29/2006 9:31:51 PM

I see what you did there....JAY DAVIS FOR HEISMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4/29/2006 9:33:01 PM

Marcus Stone for heisman

4/29/2006 9:33:41 PM

Jay Stone for THEISMAN

4/29/2006 9:37:34 PM

I don't think anyone is calling for Amato to change his entire gameplan. I for one have found football to be so much more enjoyable under Amato than it was under O'Caine. There's only so many WR screen passes I can stand to watch in the same game, especially after they stopped working on the second attempt.

Stellar defense impresses me a lot more than high-powered offense, which is probably why I enjoy the Wolfpack and the Panthers so much.

4/29/2006 9:38:00 PM

i cant figure it out.
am i fan of defenses because i grew up watching cowher coach the steelers or do i just love defense and happened to watch the steelers?

side note. the first college football game i really remember was the 92 national title game.(#1 miami vs #2 bama). defense really is better than offense

4/29/2006 9:40:32 PM

if you're not a fan of defense, then don't EVER watch an SEC or Big 10 game. Unless you happen to be a fan of punters.

4/29/2006 9:43:54 PM

guys you are looking at this wrong,

if your players are great, but your team is not, then your coaching sucks

Carolina ran all over us this year and we had 3 d linemen in the first round

Chuck has nothing to do with the development of players anyway
most college head coachs only handle administrative duties and hardly show up at practice
Position coach, strength coach, and d coordinator but not chuck

either way bad football record but great draft record means bad coaching

4/29/2006 9:44:12 PM

it can also mean a developing team. Give the man at least 4-5 more years to prove himself. If he's not making bowl games 4 years from now, then you can bitch.

4/29/2006 9:51:35 PM

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"The coaches did a good job developing those guys on the D-line. "

more like good genetics and a good individual work ethic for most of them

4/29/2006 10:03:55 PM

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"if your players are great, but your team is not, then your coaching sucks Carolina ran all over us this year and we had 3 d linemen in the first round Chuck has nothing to do with the development of players anyway most college head coachs only handle administrative duties and hardly show up at practice Position coach, strength coach, and d coordinator but not chuck either way bad football record but great draft record means bad coaching "

You guys are still fucking retarded


Our defense was number 1 in the nation, and top 10 last year in total yards. Thats great coaching and great players. Now, it might be shitty coaching on offense, but I dont think we have the players on offense.


Please, just stop talking about bad coaching when talking about our great d and bad record. The D was the only thing keeping us in games.


The UNC game was ONE GAME that our defense fucked up, but our offense still committed too many turnovers, and UNC ran a bunch of fucking trick/gadget plays and they got the majority of their yardage on a handful of big plays, not by dominating our D all day.

[Edited on April 29, 2006 at 10:13 PM. Reason : ]

4/29/2006 10:11:31 PM

^game set and match

4/29/2006 10:15:09 PM

^^^you are an idiot

players can't simple come out of high school and become first round nfl draft material by themselves
and you can't possible have a #1 defense in the nation individually

[Edited on April 29, 2006 at 10:16 PM. Reason : adf]

4/29/2006 10:15:57 PM

on another note Prim Siripipat of News 14 Sports Talk, will you please marry me, even though you did go to Duke and played tennis for them?

4/29/2006 10:30:24 PM

even though?

you cant even though duke + tennis.







ill bet she raped a few nccu students in her time.

4/29/2006 10:41:16 PM

oh the even though is just saying that she's more than likely a duke fan, and if the sky fell and she did marry me we would have to fight during games.

i'd let her rape me.

[Edited on April 29, 2006 at 10:54 PM. Reason : ]

4/29/2006 10:54:25 PM

you sick fuck

4/29/2006 10:57:10 PM

The D-Line is Todd Stroud's accomplishment. There were some mumblings when Amato promoted the Strength & Conditioning coach to D-Line coach but he put 3 guys in the first round, 2 of which were nobodies coming out of highschool... Both Lawson and McCargo were 1* recruits and I believe it was McCargo who only had offers from NCSU and Richmond... fucking Richmond... yet he developed into the #26 pick. Buy Todd Stroud a beer and a fine hooker.

4/29/2006 11:00:59 PM

I give Stroud one more year before he's coaching somewhere else.

4/29/2006 11:03:19 PM

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"Please, just stop talking about bad coaching when talking about our great d and bad record. The D was the only thing keeping us in games."

Exactly.

Look at how CLOSE a lot of those games were. Look at how we pulled out wins over superior teams even while scoring <20 points. Look at how few times we got blown out the past two years, even when we obviously had NO offense.

Our D is definitely not to blame.

4/29/2006 11:04:46 PM

^very true

4/29/2006 11:19:53 PM

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"I give Stroud one more year before he's coaching somewhere else."

Thats basically what I said on PP... only thing we can hope is that he has some loyalty to Amato for showing some faith in him and making him the D-Line coach when he wasn't exactly a proven commodity in that regard.

4/29/2006 11:23:03 PM

why the fuck isnt this chit locked????

4/30/2006 12:52:28 AM

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"not only paid, but CHAMPIONS of the Meineke Car Care Bowl!!"

dammit100 wins this thread.

4/30/2006 1:05:35 AM

http://d.turboupload.com/d/559564/I.Am.Mario.Williams.mpeg.html

link for the "I Am Mario Williams" vid

ah damn i keep getting error downloading codec message

[Edited on April 30, 2006 at 1:52 AM. Reason : ]

4/30/2006 1:50:04 AM

works for me, just use VLC player to play it, that thing will play anything, thanks for the link

4/30/2006 2:54:45 PM

3 first round draft picks and 3 ACC wins. great job coach!

4/30/2006 4:33:36 PM

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"if you're not a fan of defense, then don't EVER watch an SEC or Big 10 game."

BIG-10 is the best football conference in the nation, i could watch their games all day, all season

D D D D D D D D D D

4/30/2006 4:37:04 PM

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"BIG-10 is the best football conference in the nation, i could watch their games all day, all season D D D D D D D D D D"

I love the BigT1e1n too but Its hardly all D. The style of play is so run heavy that its all field position battle. When there is a passing play it is pretty much always play-action. This is why Wide Receivers who make noise in the conference always become such darlings in the media... there aren't that many serious threats going deep. Its football for football fans, but not exactly the most thrilling.

4/30/2006 9:00:30 PM

So apparently, according to everything I've been reading in the past day based on these draft picks and Amato and whatnot, we should be expecting "major things" out of NC State football in the next couple years...so how many more years until the BCS bid?

or is this all smoke and mirrors as usual?

4/30/2006 9:28:43 PM

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"smoke and mirrors as usual"

5/1/2006 8:27:10 AM

This was a little tidbit from over at PP that a member wrote about a WPC talk Amato gave:

I love this one...

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"of course he had a number of jokes including a story about his frosh year. he said he lived in tucker and his girlfrien back home had given him a picture to remember her by while in school. then one day she called him and told him that she had been with two men since he had left for college. he said that at least it took two guys to replace him. his gf asked him to send back her picture so he went to every room in tucker hall and collected pictures of girls from all the guys (he said some had clothes on, some not). he then sent about 25 pics to his gf and included a note saying: "I don't remember which one was yours but take it out and send the others back.""

Interesting take on fans...

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"he said that FSU fans learned to be championship fans from Nebraska and implied that we are learning it from VT. He was very complementary of our fans but pointed out that in 2004 when VT had 0 offensive yards after 3 quarters against us ther was not one boo to be heard at Lane."

Funny perspective on PR and a championship...

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"he then said that there is one person to blame for not having been in a NC game: Jamie Barnette. He said that if JB had been born one year later he would have been his starting QB his first ear and PR would have reshirted. then when we had the #1 D in America, PR would have been in his 5th year and we would have been in the national championship game."

Can't wait for football season.

5/2/2006 12:48:04 AM

2 weeks ago everyone was fearing fb season...now due to an NFL draft, everyone's excited.

WTF.

5/2/2006 12:50:44 AM

chuck is the man

5/2/2006 12:52:11 AM