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NyM410
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go vote. My early returns (I know these won't turn out b/c it's a popularity contest)

AL

C: Ramon Hernandez BAL -- Victor Martinez a CLOSE 2nd
1B: Chris Shelton DET -- gotta go with him over Konerko right now but this may change
2B: I honestly don't know who to pick... maybe Adam Kennedy?
3B: Eric Chavez OAK
SS: Miguel Tejada BAL -- Jeter 2nd
OF: Johnny Gomes TB
OF: Nick Swisher OAK
OF: Vlad Guerrero ANA
DH: David Ortiz BOS
SP: Curt Schilling

NL

C: Paul LoDuca NYM
1B: Albert Pujols STL -- my boy Delgado is right there too
2B: Bill Hall MIL -- with the write in vote
3B: Garret Atkins COL -- blah.. should be DW if he didn't hurt his groin or Miggy with a better team around him
SS: Omar Vizquel SF
OF: Lance Berkman HOU -- I know he is playing 1B but he deserves to start, period.
OF: Moises Alou SF -- Hawpe could go but I'm not putting two Rockies on my starting team with that thin air.
OF: Andruw Jones ATL
SP: Pedro Martinez -- no doubt.

Based purely on performance.

5/4/2006 10:00:29 AM

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"Based purely on performance"


Ortiz = Thome

but hell, if anybody it should be Hafner

[Edited on May 4, 2006 at 10:08 AM. Reason : ,]

5/4/2006 10:05:59 AM

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Maddox over Pedro

5/4/2006 10:11:26 AM

john kruk
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...and you realize that Shelton's stats have REALLY slipped lately

he is leaps and bounds behind Paulie (in all of the important stats BA, RBI, K). their OPS is just about the same

5/4/2006 10:12:00 AM

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This would be mine:
AL
C: Victor Martinez CLE
1B: Paul Konerko CWS
2B: Luis Castillo Twins, or Robinson Cano NYY
3B: Eric Chavez OAK
SS: Miguel Tejada BAL -- Jeter 2nd
OF: Johnny Gomes TB or Alex Rios TOR
OF: Vernon Wells TOR --Nick Swisher OAK 2nd
OF: Vlad Guerrero ANA
DH: Travis Hafner CLE
SP: Curt Schilling

NL

C: Paul LoDuca NYM
1B: Albert Pujols STL -- dont think anyone else is close right now
2B: Jose Vidro WAS or Bill Hall MIL --doesn't Hall play 3rd or short.. They have Weeks at 2nd if im not mistaken
3B: Garret Atkins COL
SS: Omar Vizquel SF.. Renteria if he wouldnt have gotten hurt
OF: Lance Berkman HOU
OF: Moises Alou SF
OF: Andruw Jones ATL
SP: Pedro Martinez

5/4/2006 10:35:58 AM

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Shelton? And you posted this today? What a joke.

5/4/2006 10:37:51 AM

NyM410
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Hall is a true utility guy. He plays 2B, SS, and 3rd.. 2B is sort of a dead position now that Soriano is in the OF to me..

^ body of work. Shelton still has the numbers and is in what projected to be a much weaker lineup.

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"in all of the important stats BA, RBI, K). "


RBIs are completely team dependent. Konerko has a better average, lower OPS, 6 fewer extra base hits, 3 fewer HRs, and doing it with far better protection then Shelton has been afforded..

[Edited on May 4, 2006 at 10:55 AM. Reason : x]

5/4/2006 10:51:18 AM

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Here's who I would vote for today:

AL
C: Victor Martinez, Indians
1B: Jason Giambi, Yankees
2B: Brian Roberts, Orioles
SS: Miguel Tejada, Orioles
3B: Eric Chavez, A's
OF: Vernon Wells, Jays
OF: Nick Swisher, A's
OF: Alexis Rios, Jays (I consider Gomes a DH since he's played 4 games in the outfield..otherwise he would be here)
DH: Travis Hafner, Indians

SP: Curt Schilling, Red Sox


NATIONAL LEAGUE

C: Brad Ausmus, Astros
1B: Albert Pujols, Cards
2B: Jose Vidro, Nationals
SS: Omar Vizquel, Giants
3B: Morgan Ensberg, Astros
OF: Andruw Jones, Braves
OF: Brad Hawpe, Rockies
OF: Josh Willingham, Marlins

SP: Pedro Martinez, Mets

5/4/2006 8:45:01 PM

packboozie
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Why don't you all wait till the end of June to vote when the stats really will stand out.

Thank goodness Ripken retired. I got so tired of him getting voted in every year even though he was hitting .230.

5/4/2006 8:59:15 PM

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Adam Dunn, Austin Kearns, Brandon Phillips, Joey Devine, Bronson Arroyo, Edwin Encarnacion, Jason LaRue, Felipe Lopez Jr.,

[Edited on May 4, 2006 at 9:03 PM. Reason : gdf]

5/4/2006 9:01:53 PM

Turnip
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"Why don't you all wait till the end of June to vote when the stats really will stand out."


I am not voting yet, just posting who I'd vote for today

5/4/2006 9:06:10 PM

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ALREADY??

5/4/2006 9:29:42 PM

NyM410
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You get 25 votes per person. I did 1 now and I'll do a few every so often. That's why I said 'early returns.'

Oh and my NL SS is Wilson .. completely forgot about him..

** How funny that the best 3 NL pitchers so far are all over 34 years old. Pedro, Maddox, and Glavine.

5/4/2006 9:35:20 PM

NyM410
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Replace Andruw in CF with Carlos Beltran. Better AVG, more HRs, better OPS.. the only major stat category that he isn't ahead of Andruw in is RBIs and that is team/AB dependent.. and Carlos missed 10 games.

** Right now I'd have Carlos and Wright as the only 2 Mets in the starting 9

[Edited on May 28, 2006 at 9:19 PM. Reason : x]

5/28/2006 9:18:53 PM

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i allready put my 25 votes in last week. Got to support them braves

5/28/2006 9:24:04 PM

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what about Barry Bonds*?

5/28/2006 9:24:31 PM

The Dude
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you should vote for Jose Lopez from the mariners for 2B in the American league
him and iguchi have been the best 2B in the American league

5/28/2006 9:28:02 PM

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Paul Lo Duca - hell no! Brian McCann was leading the NL in hitting before getting hurt. Yeah Lo Duca's 13 RBIs and 770 OPS is fantastic. McCann has pretty much better offensive stats across the board.

[Edited on May 28, 2006 at 9:34 PM. Reason : xz]

5/28/2006 9:34:25 PM

NyM410
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I changed Lo Duca.. this was early on.

5/28/2006 9:35:23 PM

rflong
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^ so who you got now? Barrett is having a solid season, but the AJ punch fucked him. Estrada is playing well too.

Based purely off of offensive stats my order is:

1. Barrett
2. McCann
3. Estrada
4. Damien Miller
5. Ausmus
6. Lo Duca

Not much to chose from though.





[Edited on May 28, 2006 at 9:44 PM. Reason : Forgot about Miller]

5/28/2006 9:40:00 PM

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No offense to LoDuca but there are 5 starting catchers in the NL with a higher BA, 10 with more RBI's, and 9 with more HR's. I like LoDuca, have since he played for the Dodgers, but I'll have to disagree with you.


this is really based on performance

AL

C: Joe Mauer MIN --battin an even .350, can't argue with that
1B: Paul Konerko CHW
2B: Mark Loretta BOS
3B: Alex Rodrigues NYY --as much as I hate to do it his R's and RBI's dominate
SS: Miguel Tejada BAL
OF: Manny Ramirez BOS
OF: Nick Swisher OAK
OF: Vlad Guerrero ANA
DH: Jim Thome CHW
SP: Curt Schilling BOS

NL

C: Brian McCann ATL
1B: Albert Pujols STL
2B: Chase Utley PHI
3B: Miguel Cabrera FLA
SS: Edgar Renteria ATL
OF: Matt Holliday or Brad Hawpe COL - 6 of one...
OF: Alfonso Soriano WAS
OF: Jason Bay PIT
SP: Brandon Webb ARI

[Edited on May 28, 2006 at 10:03 PM. Reason : i see the LoDuca thing was addressed, haha]

5/28/2006 10:02:34 PM

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My revised one:

AL:
C: Joe Mauer MIN
1B Paul Konerko CHW
2B Jose Lopez SEA
3B Mike Lowell BOS
SS Derek Jeter NYY
OF: Nick Swisher OAK
OF: Alexis Rios TOR
OF: Casey Blake CLE
DH Travis Hafner CLE
SP: JUSTIN VERLANDER or Mike Mussina NYY

NL:
C: Brian McCann ATL
1B: Albert Pujols STL
2B: Chase Utley PHI
3B: Miguel Cabrera FLA
SS: Hanley Ramirez FLA
OF: Jason Bay PIT
OF: Carlos Beltran NYM
OF: Alfonso Soriano WAS
SP: Brandon Webb ARI

[Edited on May 29, 2006 at 12:20 AM. Reason : d]

5/29/2006 12:20:18 AM

rflong
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Too bad for Ryan Howard that Pujols is a 1B too. He has torn the fuck out of the ball in May. I also gotta admit that I didn't expect much from Soriano, but he is playing great for the Nats. I really thought he was going to suck balls in the NL and not playing in the Texas bandbox.

5/30/2006 2:49:58 PM

TreeTwista10
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Barry Bonds - Designated Cheater

5/30/2006 2:51:24 PM

rwoody
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No love for Contreras?

he has the best era and has won 14 straight.

5/30/2006 3:18:56 PM

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c : DYLAN
1b : DYLAN
2b : DYLAN
3b : DYLAN
ss : DYLAN
of : DYLAN, DYLAN, DYLAN
sp: DYLAN

5/30/2006 3:20:42 PM

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Im with Tree

no way bonds should be there

5/30/2006 3:42:02 PM

TreeTwista10
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AL DH: Frank Thomas
NL DH*: Barry Bonds

5/30/2006 4:29:25 PM

rflong
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Who is saying that Bonds will make it? His stats don't add up to All Star quality this year. His OPS is still excellent, but not much else is. Unless the fans vote him in, I doubt he'll get it (or atleast I hope he doesn't). He'd likely decline any invite anyway so he can rest his knees and shit...

[Edited on May 30, 2006 at 4:52 PM. Reason : s]

5/30/2006 4:52:08 PM

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based on everything right now

i dont see how the AL SP can be anyone BUT Conteras

he has been the best pitcher in the majors for almost a year now

6/13/2006 12:52:29 PM

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"1B: Chris Shelton DET -- gotta go with him over Konerko right now but this may change"


still hilarious

6/13/2006 1:15:16 PM

Ernie
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DUDE WAS A HOMERUN MACHINE

for a week

6/13/2006 1:22:16 PM

NyM410
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^^ had me rolling like Konerkos .230 May..

in the no defense voting Hafner >>> Konerko

** Wright took over Rolen too.. though Miggy should probably start at 3B..

[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 1:26 PM. Reason : x]

6/13/2006 1:24:08 PM

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"3B: Alex Rodrigues NYY --as much as I hate to do it his R's and RBI's dominate"


You crazy? They're not good enough to overcome his fielding, eek.

No way starting SS for the AL is anyone other than Jeter. Well, unless this thumb injury really bothers him for a while.

[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 1:35 PM. Reason : k]

6/13/2006 1:35:33 PM

Crede
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Basically NyM410 knows a lot about the Mets and players who used to be in the Mets system, the New York Yankees, and the Boston Red Sox. He's mediocre on other teams and below average in AL teams in particular.

6/13/2006 7:07:03 PM

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My team


AL:
C: Joe Mauer MIN
1B Paul Konerko CHW
2B Jose Lopez SEA
3B Troy Glaus TOR
SS Derek Jeter NYY
OF: Magglio Ordonez DET
OF: Alexis Rios TOR
OF: Vladimir Guerrero ANA
DH Travis Hafner CLE
SP: Jose Contreras CHW

NL:
C: Brian McCann ATL
1B: Albert Pujols STL
2B: Chase Utley PHI
3B: David Wright NYM
SS: Felipe Lopez CIN
OF: Jason Bay PIT
OF: Carlos Beltran NYM
OF: Alfonso Soriano WAS
SP: Pedro Martinez NYM

6/13/2006 9:48:46 PM

NyM410
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^^ or I say things that I know will make you and kruk's vag sandy..

6/13/2006 9:49:51 PM

Crede
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well, you did jump on the red sox bandwagon, so....

6/13/2006 10:09:06 PM

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"3B: David Wright NYM"


Scott Rolen is hitting .351 and has been CARRYING the Cards since Albert got hurt.

He should start easy.

6/13/2006 10:36:30 PM

NyM410
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Carrying them? They're 4-6 in the last 10.

I wouldn't mind Rolen starting. He is having a fine year but so are Miggy Cabrera and David Wright.. I'm gonna be a homer and say Wright is the guy (he's leading votes too now).

Wright is hitting .335, 12 HR, 45 RBIs, 11 SB, .978 OPS.. (not that it matters but he just made the #1 web gem today too and pretty much saved the game).

6/13/2006 10:44:55 PM

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Wright is better in every major offensive catagory except for batting average, which he is losing to Rolen by .001. There's no question. I don't care who's carrying what.

6/13/2006 10:50:54 PM

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^Rolen is hitting .351 that's more than .001 a point.

Rolen has 40 RBIs, 39 Runs scored compared to Wright's 44 RBIs and 40 runs scored in 9 LESS games. Rolen has higher OBP (Easily) and SLG percentages. Wright has struck out 47 times to Rolen's 25. Don't try and tell me Wright has better numbers.

^^Surely you aren't going to say Wright is a better 3rd basemen than Rolen, I mean I know Wright can field, but how many Gold Gloves does he have?

[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 11:16 PM. Reason : 00]

[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 11:23 PM. Reason : stats]

6/13/2006 11:15:57 PM

Crede
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^ You are pathetic for including today's effects to batting stats before the day is even over both in terms of PM hours and in terms of MLB games being concluded.

6/13/2006 11:22:27 PM

Crede
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^^ Even more pathetic is the mention of Rolen having more gold gloves. What do you want from a guy fresh off his essentially rookie year?

6/13/2006 11:23:43 PM

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^, ^^, Should it not be debated on his CURRENT stats?

I mean right there I just showed you how Rolen's are better.

Rolen is batting cleanup for a first place team without ANY protection right now. I mean Juan Encarnacion is batting behind him.

6/13/2006 11:25:55 PM

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you say you want it debated on current stats and you bring up gold gloves

did they give out gold gloves for this season alreay?


you cant have it both ways

6/13/2006 11:51:01 PM

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why dont you give us rolen's stats without pujols then, since he obviously benefited greatly from pujols

ps rolen and wright's OBP and SLG %s are identical

also if you are going to use Ks as a measuring stick, you cant say well Wright had 50 more at bats than rolen when comparing their K totals

[Edited on June 14, 2006 at 12:06 AM. Reason : .]

6/14/2006 12:03:50 AM

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Quote :
"^^Surely you aren't going to say Wright is a better 3rd basemen than Rolen, I mean I know Wright can field, but how many Gold Gloves does he have?"


That's why I said 'not that it matters.' It was happening as I typed it. Actually Wright has been very inconsistent in the field this year, especially late in games. He makes all sort of great plays but will screw up on the easiest of plays..

6/14/2006 9:30:46 AM

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Wright or Rolen or even Cabrera = All deserve all star spots this year. I hope each makes it too because the fucking NL needs to finally win a damn all star game.

6/14/2006 11:17:16 AM

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Rolen is at 8 HRs 43 RBIs and is hitting .358 now with .430 OBP and .596 SLG

David Wright is at 12 HRS 45 RBIs .335 BA .406 OBP and .571 SLG

Either way NL is okay at 3rd base.

6/15/2006 12:48:04 AM

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