NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
go vote. My early returns (I know these won't turn out b/c it's a popularity contest)
AL
C: Ramon Hernandez BAL -- Victor Martinez a CLOSE 2nd 1B: Chris Shelton DET -- gotta go with him over Konerko right now but this may change 2B: I honestly don't know who to pick... maybe Adam Kennedy? 3B: Eric Chavez OAK SS: Miguel Tejada BAL -- Jeter 2nd OF: Johnny Gomes TB OF: Nick Swisher OAK OF: Vlad Guerrero ANA DH: David Ortiz BOS SP: Curt Schilling
NL
C: Paul LoDuca NYM 1B: Albert Pujols STL -- my boy Delgado is right there too 2B: Bill Hall MIL -- with the write in vote 3B: Garret Atkins COL -- blah.. should be DW if he didn't hurt his groin or Miggy with a better team around him SS: Omar Vizquel SF OF: Lance Berkman HOU -- I know he is playing 1B but he deserves to start, period. OF: Moises Alou SF -- Hawpe could go but I'm not putting two Rockies on my starting team with that thin air. OF: Andruw Jones ATL SP: Pedro Martinez -- no doubt.
Based purely on performance. 5/4/2006 10:00:29 AM |
john kruk All American 5325 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Based purely on performance" |
Ortiz = Thome
but hell, if anybody it should be Hafner
[Edited on May 4, 2006 at 10:08 AM. Reason : ,]5/4/2006 10:05:59 AM |
buddha1747 All American 5067 Posts user info edit post |
Maddox over Pedro 5/4/2006 10:11:26 AM |
john kruk All American 5325 Posts user info edit post |
...and you realize that Shelton's stats have REALLY slipped lately
he is leaps and bounds behind Paulie (in all of the important stats BA, RBI, K). their OPS is just about the same 5/4/2006 10:12:00 AM |
bkhardee All American 985 Posts user info edit post |
This would be mine: AL C: Victor Martinez CLE 1B: Paul Konerko CWS 2B: Luis Castillo Twins, or Robinson Cano NYY 3B: Eric Chavez OAK SS: Miguel Tejada BAL -- Jeter 2nd OF: Johnny Gomes TB or Alex Rios TOR OF: Vernon Wells TOR --Nick Swisher OAK 2nd OF: Vlad Guerrero ANA DH: Travis Hafner CLE SP: Curt Schilling
NL
C: Paul LoDuca NYM 1B: Albert Pujols STL -- dont think anyone else is close right now 2B: Jose Vidro WAS or Bill Hall MIL --doesn't Hall play 3rd or short.. They have Weeks at 2nd if im not mistaken 3B: Garret Atkins COL SS: Omar Vizquel SF.. Renteria if he wouldnt have gotten hurt OF: Lance Berkman HOU OF: Moises Alou SF OF: Andruw Jones ATL SP: Pedro Martinez 5/4/2006 10:35:58 AM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Shelton? And you posted this today? What a joke. 5/4/2006 10:37:51 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Hall is a true utility guy. He plays 2B, SS, and 3rd.. 2B is sort of a dead position now that Soriano is in the OF to me..
^ body of work. Shelton still has the numbers and is in what projected to be a much weaker lineup.
Quote : | "in all of the important stats BA, RBI, K). " |
RBIs are completely team dependent. Konerko has a better average, lower OPS, 6 fewer extra base hits, 3 fewer HRs, and doing it with far better protection then Shelton has been afforded..
[Edited on May 4, 2006 at 10:55 AM. Reason : x]5/4/2006 10:51:18 AM |
Turnip All American 5426 Posts user info edit post |
Here's who I would vote for today:
AL C: Victor Martinez, Indians 1B: Jason Giambi, Yankees 2B: Brian Roberts, Orioles SS: Miguel Tejada, Orioles 3B: Eric Chavez, A's OF: Vernon Wells, Jays OF: Nick Swisher, A's OF: Alexis Rios, Jays (I consider Gomes a DH since he's played 4 games in the outfield..otherwise he would be here) DH: Travis Hafner, Indians
SP: Curt Schilling, Red Sox
NATIONAL LEAGUE
C: Brad Ausmus, Astros 1B: Albert Pujols, Cards 2B: Jose Vidro, Nationals SS: Omar Vizquel, Giants 3B: Morgan Ensberg, Astros OF: Andruw Jones, Braves OF: Brad Hawpe, Rockies OF: Josh Willingham, Marlins
SP: Pedro Martinez, Mets 5/4/2006 8:45:01 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Why don't you all wait till the end of June to vote when the stats really will stand out.
Thank goodness Ripken retired. I got so tired of him getting voted in every year even though he was hitting .230. 5/4/2006 8:59:15 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
Adam Dunn, Austin Kearns, Brandon Phillips, Joey Devine, Bronson Arroyo, Edwin Encarnacion, Jason LaRue, Felipe Lopez Jr.,
[Edited on May 4, 2006 at 9:03 PM. Reason : gdf] 5/4/2006 9:01:53 PM |
Turnip All American 5426 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why don't you all wait till the end of June to vote when the stats really will stand out." |
I am not voting yet, just posting who I'd vote for today5/4/2006 9:06:10 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
ALREADY?? 5/4/2006 9:29:42 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
You get 25 votes per person. I did 1 now and I'll do a few every so often. That's why I said 'early returns.'
Oh and my NL SS is Wilson .. completely forgot about him..
** How funny that the best 3 NL pitchers so far are all over 34 years old. Pedro, Maddox, and Glavine. 5/4/2006 9:35:20 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Replace Andruw in CF with Carlos Beltran. Better AVG, more HRs, better OPS.. the only major stat category that he isn't ahead of Andruw in is RBIs and that is team/AB dependent.. and Carlos missed 10 games.
** Right now I'd have Carlos and Wright as the only 2 Mets in the starting 9
[Edited on May 28, 2006 at 9:19 PM. Reason : x] 5/28/2006 9:18:53 PM |
he hate me Veteran 458 Posts user info edit post |
i allready put my 25 votes in last week. Got to support them braves 5/28/2006 9:24:04 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53075 Posts user info edit post |
what about Barry Bonds*? 5/28/2006 9:24:31 PM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
you should vote for Jose Lopez from the mariners for 2B in the American league him and iguchi have been the best 2B in the American league 5/28/2006 9:28:02 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Paul Lo Duca - hell no! Brian McCann was leading the NL in hitting before getting hurt. Yeah Lo Duca's 13 RBIs and 770 OPS is fantastic. McCann has pretty much better offensive stats across the board.
[Edited on May 28, 2006 at 9:34 PM. Reason : xz] 5/28/2006 9:34:25 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I changed Lo Duca.. this was early on. 5/28/2006 9:35:23 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^ so who you got now? Barrett is having a solid season, but the AJ punch fucked him. Estrada is playing well too.
Based purely off of offensive stats my order is:
1. Barrett 2. McCann 3. Estrada 4. Damien Miller 5. Ausmus 6. Lo Duca
Not much to chose from though.
[Edited on May 28, 2006 at 9:44 PM. Reason : Forgot about Miller] 5/28/2006 9:40:00 PM |
ToiletPaper All American 11225 Posts user info edit post |
No offense to LoDuca but there are 5 starting catchers in the NL with a higher BA, 10 with more RBI's, and 9 with more HR's. I like LoDuca, have since he played for the Dodgers, but I'll have to disagree with you.
this is really based on performance
AL
C: Joe Mauer MIN --battin an even .350, can't argue with that 1B: Paul Konerko CHW 2B: Mark Loretta BOS 3B: Alex Rodrigues NYY --as much as I hate to do it his R's and RBI's dominate SS: Miguel Tejada BAL OF: Manny Ramirez BOS OF: Nick Swisher OAK OF: Vlad Guerrero ANA DH: Jim Thome CHW SP: Curt Schilling BOS
NL
C: Brian McCann ATL 1B: Albert Pujols STL 2B: Chase Utley PHI 3B: Miguel Cabrera FLA SS: Edgar Renteria ATL OF: Matt Holliday or Brad Hawpe COL - 6 of one... OF: Alfonso Soriano WAS OF: Jason Bay PIT SP: Brandon Webb ARI
[Edited on May 28, 2006 at 10:03 PM. Reason : i see the LoDuca thing was addressed, haha] 5/28/2006 10:02:34 PM |
Turnip All American 5426 Posts user info edit post |
My revised one:
AL: C: Joe Mauer MIN 1B Paul Konerko CHW 2B Jose Lopez SEA 3B Mike Lowell BOS SS Derek Jeter NYY OF: Nick Swisher OAK OF: Alexis Rios TOR OF: Casey Blake CLE DH Travis Hafner CLE SP: JUSTIN VERLANDER or Mike Mussina NYY
NL: C: Brian McCann ATL 1B: Albert Pujols STL 2B: Chase Utley PHI 3B: Miguel Cabrera FLA SS: Hanley Ramirez FLA OF: Jason Bay PIT OF: Carlos Beltran NYM OF: Alfonso Soriano WAS SP: Brandon Webb ARI
[Edited on May 29, 2006 at 12:20 AM. Reason : d] 5/29/2006 12:20:18 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Too bad for Ryan Howard that Pujols is a 1B too. He has torn the fuck out of the ball in May. I also gotta admit that I didn't expect much from Soriano, but he is playing great for the Nats. I really thought he was going to suck balls in the NL and not playing in the Texas bandbox. 5/30/2006 2:49:58 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
Barry Bonds - Designated Cheater 5/30/2006 2:51:24 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37700 Posts user info edit post |
No love for Contreras?
he has the best era and has won 14 straight. 5/30/2006 3:18:56 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
c : DYLAN 1b : DYLAN 2b : DYLAN 3b : DYLAN ss : DYLAN of : DYLAN, DYLAN, DYLAN sp: DYLAN 5/30/2006 3:20:42 PM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
Im with Tree
no way bonds should be there 5/30/2006 3:42:02 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
AL DH: Frank Thomas NL DH*: Barry Bonds 5/30/2006 4:29:25 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Who is saying that Bonds will make it? His stats don't add up to All Star quality this year. His OPS is still excellent, but not much else is. Unless the fans vote him in, I doubt he'll get it (or atleast I hope he doesn't). He'd likely decline any invite anyway so he can rest his knees and shit...
[Edited on May 30, 2006 at 4:52 PM. Reason : s] 5/30/2006 4:52:08 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37700 Posts user info edit post |
based on everything right now
i dont see how the AL SP can be anyone BUT Conteras
he has been the best pitcher in the majors for almost a year now 6/13/2006 12:52:29 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "1B: Chris Shelton DET -- gotta go with him over Konerko right now but this may change" |
still hilarious6/13/2006 1:15:16 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
DUDE WAS A HOMERUN MACHINE
for a week 6/13/2006 1:22:16 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^ had me rolling like Konerkos .230 May..
in the no defense voting Hafner >>> Konerko
** Wright took over Rolen too.. though Miggy should probably start at 3B..
[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 1:26 PM. Reason : x] 6/13/2006 1:24:08 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43412 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "3B: Alex Rodrigues NYY --as much as I hate to do it his R's and RBI's dominate" |
You crazy? They're not good enough to overcome his fielding, eek.
No way starting SS for the AL is anyone other than Jeter. Well, unless this thumb injury really bothers him for a while.
[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 1:35 PM. Reason : k]6/13/2006 1:35:33 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Basically NyM410 knows a lot about the Mets and players who used to be in the Mets system, the New York Yankees, and the Boston Red Sox. He's mediocre on other teams and below average in AL teams in particular. 6/13/2006 7:07:03 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
My team
AL: C: Joe Mauer MIN 1B Paul Konerko CHW 2B Jose Lopez SEA 3B Troy Glaus TOR SS Derek Jeter NYY OF: Magglio Ordonez DET OF: Alexis Rios TOR OF: Vladimir Guerrero ANA DH Travis Hafner CLE SP: Jose Contreras CHW
NL: C: Brian McCann ATL 1B: Albert Pujols STL 2B: Chase Utley PHI 3B: David Wright NYM SS: Felipe Lopez CIN OF: Jason Bay PIT OF: Carlos Beltran NYM OF: Alfonso Soriano WAS SP: Pedro Martinez NYM 6/13/2006 9:48:46 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^ or I say things that I know will make you and kruk's vag sandy.. 6/13/2006 9:49:51 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
well, you did jump on the red sox bandwagon, so.... 6/13/2006 10:09:06 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "3B: David Wright NYM" |
Scott Rolen is hitting .351 and has been CARRYING the Cards since Albert got hurt.
He should start easy.6/13/2006 10:36:30 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Carrying them? They're 4-6 in the last 10.
I wouldn't mind Rolen starting. He is having a fine year but so are Miggy Cabrera and David Wright.. I'm gonna be a homer and say Wright is the guy (he's leading votes too now).
Wright is hitting .335, 12 HR, 45 RBIs, 11 SB, .978 OPS.. (not that it matters but he just made the #1 web gem today too and pretty much saved the game). 6/13/2006 10:44:55 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Wright is better in every major offensive catagory except for batting average, which he is losing to Rolen by .001. There's no question. I don't care who's carrying what. 6/13/2006 10:50:54 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
^Rolen is hitting .351 that's more than .001 a point.
Rolen has 40 RBIs, 39 Runs scored compared to Wright's 44 RBIs and 40 runs scored in 9 LESS games. Rolen has higher OBP (Easily) and SLG percentages. Wright has struck out 47 times to Rolen's 25. Don't try and tell me Wright has better numbers.
^^Surely you aren't going to say Wright is a better 3rd basemen than Rolen, I mean I know Wright can field, but how many Gold Gloves does he have?
[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 11:16 PM. Reason : 00]
[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 11:23 PM. Reason : stats] 6/13/2006 11:15:57 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
^ You are pathetic for including today's effects to batting stats before the day is even over both in terms of PM hours and in terms of MLB games being concluded. 6/13/2006 11:22:27 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Even more pathetic is the mention of Rolen having more gold gloves. What do you want from a guy fresh off his essentially rookie year? 6/13/2006 11:23:43 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
^, ^^, Should it not be debated on his CURRENT stats?
I mean right there I just showed you how Rolen's are better.
Rolen is batting cleanup for a first place team without ANY protection right now. I mean Juan Encarnacion is batting behind him. 6/13/2006 11:25:55 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37700 Posts user info edit post |
you say you want it debated on current stats and you bring up gold gloves
did they give out gold gloves for this season alreay?
you cant have it both ways 6/13/2006 11:51:01 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
why dont you give us rolen's stats without pujols then, since he obviously benefited greatly from pujols
ps rolen and wright's OBP and SLG %s are identical
also if you are going to use Ks as a measuring stick, you cant say well Wright had 50 more at bats than rolen when comparing their K totals
[Edited on June 14, 2006 at 12:06 AM. Reason : .] 6/14/2006 12:03:50 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^Surely you aren't going to say Wright is a better 3rd basemen than Rolen, I mean I know Wright can field, but how many Gold Gloves does he have?" |
That's why I said 'not that it matters.' It was happening as I typed it. Actually Wright has been very inconsistent in the field this year, especially late in games. He makes all sort of great plays but will screw up on the easiest of plays..6/14/2006 9:30:46 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Wright or Rolen or even Cabrera = All deserve all star spots this year. I hope each makes it too because the fucking NL needs to finally win a damn all star game. 6/14/2006 11:17:16 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Rolen is at 8 HRs 43 RBIs and is hitting .358 now with .430 OBP and .596 SLG
David Wright is at 12 HRS 45 RBIs .335 BA .406 OBP and .571 SLG
Either way NL is okay at 3rd base. 6/15/2006 12:48:04 AM |