Han Jabba Veteran 168 Posts user info edit post |
I'm looking for a new puppy, and I was wondering is this possible? 5/6/2006 1:44:36 AM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
Its a defective breed... pick a new one.
Oh, and I doubt you find bulldogs at a reasonable price... they pretty much always have to be born through Cesarean section and that is not cheap. 5/6/2006 1:51:31 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Just go to the SPCA and pick out a damn dog. 5/6/2006 2:30:12 AM |
Raige All American 4386 Posts user info edit post |
You do know that getting purebreeds is status only. Most purebreeds are NIGHTMARES with vet bills. That 1k dog is gonna be a 10k dog by age 10. 5/6/2006 7:45:44 AM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
eh, i had a purebreed Champion-bloodline Cocker Spaniel growing up and her bills weren't that bad. 5/6/2006 7:48:09 AM |
odie All American 1001 Posts user info edit post |
you can look here... http://www.trianglepetrescue.com/index.htm or http://www.petfinder.com
there should be some in rescues. 5/6/2006 7:49:05 AM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
msb2ncsu
Quote : | "Its a defective breed... pick a new one. " |
From my Dane post.
Quote : | "I love Great Danes. I'd even adopt one if they weren't genetic cesspools.
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Please explain. Thanks Dave5/6/2006 8:21:09 AM |
ambrosia1231 eeeeeeeeeevil 76471 Posts user info edit post |
^ han jabba is wanting to pay for a defective breed. msb2ncsu said he would adopt if they weren't "genetic cesspools"
he doesn't really have much to explain.
[Edited on May 6, 2006 at 8:57 AM. Reason : sldfkj] 5/6/2006 8:57:12 AM |
Yodajammies All American 3229 Posts user info edit post |
I've had bulldogs all of my life, and breed them too. If you are, it isn't going to be of GREAT quality, but you can get them. Make sure that you check out the breeders very well. When you look at the puppies its very important to look at its skin, ears, eyes, and to ask about the history of its hips and breathing problems in the family. We have never had problems with a bulldog and its health, but maybe we were lucky. If you want to get a good, pet quality bulldog, look for one with a slightly longer snout. The more squished in it is, the more likely you are to have issues.
If you need anything else, just PM frugal_qualm.
I'm using my boyfriends name. 5/6/2006 9:21:27 AM |
HayleyToye All American 1144 Posts user info edit post |
I just got my bulldog puppy last Friday. She is so awesome. I wouldn't pay less than 1K for a bulldog pup because a top breeder would never charge so little. My breeders give a one year health guarantee with all their puppies. They also come with a health certificate from a qualified vet that has vast experience with bulldogs.
Look at the family history for an idea of health problems. I live in Greensboro and about 45 minutes away in Welcome, NC there is a vet that is a bulldog owner/expert. His rates are amazingly affordable. If you get a quality puppy, you aren't going to be spending near what has been said in this thread. Do your homework and you'll be fine.
[Edited on May 6, 2006 at 9:47 AM. Reason : .] 5/6/2006 9:45:32 AM |
BigJerm Starting Lineup 69 Posts user info edit post |
My bulldog just came into heat. If I can find a stud for her, I'll see if my parents will come down on the cost of a puppy (they're footing the vet bills). 5/6/2006 10:12:50 AM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Please explain. Thanks Dave" |
Bulldogs are health nightmares... the inbreeding and natural problems of the breeds, like pugs, that were used to make them has created more problems than benefits. The Danes are similar in the sense that they were tremendously in-bred to get their size and that has resulted in "weaknesses" but nothing like bulldogs... hell, at least Danes can be born and breathe.
Honestly, there probably isn't a worse dog, from a health standpoint, than a bulldog... can't imagine a college student being able to deal with likely (and common) problems that arise.5/6/2006 10:42:52 AM |
Han Jabba Veteran 168 Posts user info edit post |
Well, I figured there IS a reason that all the EB prices I've seen are in the $1500-2k range. I was just wondering if I was going to buy a retard if spent less than $1k on one.
Oh, and I'm only a college student for another 6 days, so that's basically why I'm getting a dog in the first place. 5/6/2006 10:54:07 AM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Well, I figured there IS a reason that all the EB prices I've seen are in the $1500-2k range. I was just wondering if I was going to buy a retard if spent less than $1k on one." |
Not a retard but more like "broken"... you are paying for the likely quality in its gene pool.5/6/2006 11:03:12 AM |
Han Jabba Veteran 168 Posts user info edit post |
I saw a few for sale in the Charlotte Observer for 1k, and several whose price is north of that.
I could probably spend 1.5k if I knew I was getting a good dog. 5/6/2006 11:07:29 AM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
my dog is cute, very well behaved, and playful. she was free. 5/6/2006 11:38:59 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Why in the hell would anyone want to spend over a grand for a dog is beyond me. 5/6/2006 11:46:03 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I wouldn't pay less than 1K for a bulldog pup because a top breeder would never charge so little." |
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?5/6/2006 12:08:51 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
go adopt a fucking dog
goddamn people 5/6/2006 12:29:18 PM |
frugal_qualm All American 1398 Posts user info edit post |
^^ He was right, a true breeder wouldn't be able to sell it for less than a grand because the breeding costs are so high if you do it correctly. Bulldogs arn't like the dogs where you leave them alone in a room with a stud when shes in heat, then a couple months later she hides in a closet and has a litter. There is sooo much that goes into it. 5/6/2006 2:15:15 PM |
ncemt_03 All American 5453 Posts user info edit post |
craigslist has a ladgy giving away to young engish bulldogs...check it out 5/6/2006 2:18:52 PM |
HayleyToye All American 1144 Posts user info edit post |
^^Thanks. I know what I'm talking about sometimes
p.s. I'm a she. 5/6/2006 4:58:44 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
i like British Bulldogs better.
5/6/2006 6:00:13 PM |
tiluin All American 1257 Posts user info edit post |
several guys who work with me have them and they have constant health problems. don't do it dave. you will regret it 5/6/2006 8:03:11 PM |
Lutra All American 12588 Posts user info edit post |
HAHA, think on this. Are you prepared to pay $1,000 for a puppy. Once that's done, are you prepared to pay for it's food, shot's, neutering, regular bills. NEXT, are you ready to pay for years and years of health problems that EVERY english buldog posesses? If so, the vet on Kildaire farm road specializes in bulldogs. 5/6/2006 8:23:18 PM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Just go to the SPCA and pick out a damn dog." |
Seriously. I got an AmStaff from there and it's a great dog. She's a year old now and has absolutely been great.5/6/2006 8:27:03 PM |
AntiMnifesto All American 1870 Posts user info edit post |
shit, with $1500 I could buy a decent horse with no papers in some parts of the country.
But 1000 for an unhealthy, short dog that looks like it got into a fight with a wall and lost, badly? Don't you want a real dog? 5/6/2006 8:27:20 PM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Danes are similar in the sense that they were tremendously in-bred to get their size and that has resulted in "weaknesses" but nothing like bulldogs... hell, at least Danes can be born and breathe. " |
Well said, I had no idea how many dogs have genitic problems, till I started working with GD rescue. After I adopted mine he was diagnosed with Addisons Disease. We see alot of dogs with demodex. These dogs should never have been bred in the first place. When you pay $1500 for a dog you are paying for a genitic paper train to prove that there are not problems like these in the blood lines. Beware of all breeders. Do lotsa checking on them and the bloodline before you purchase. Be sure to look for line breeding and if the breeder cant come up with the papers .dont spend the money. IMO paying 1500 for a puppy to have as a pet is kinda silly unless you were planning to show them. Then again paying for a sick dog is really expensive also. Im happy with my $300 dog.5/6/2006 11:47:07 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
you have serious intelligence problems if you pay 1K+ for a fucking dog 5/7/2006 3:21:12 AM |
Natalie0628 All American 1228 Posts user info edit post |
I have a half english - half american bulldog that we bought for $200. Wdidn't want a full blooded benglish because they have really bad hip problems, so the breeder breeds them this way on purpose. Roxy is the most loveable creature ever and we have had her for 4 years. She sleeps at the foot of my bed everynight in her foot and a half tall, 80lb package. One reason why they are pricey is become of the pregnancy. All bulldogs must have a c-section, which is several thousand dollars, and the breeders also pay vet bills, vaccines, food, etc. Our breeder also told us that bull dog moms are dumbasses and roll over on the puppies without knowing so they have to take a lot of care of them.
anyways, here's my baby:
http://thewolfweb.com/photo_photo.aspx?user=25906&photo=455401
[Edited on May 7, 2006 at 3:42 AM. Reason : Photo won't work.] 5/7/2006 3:39:38 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
who the fuck would want a bulldog
jesus 5/7/2006 5:36:15 AM |
FeverRed All American 8499 Posts user info edit post |
Who the fuck would pay a grand for one?
Who the fuck would pay a grand for a dog at all? 5/7/2006 8:33:24 AM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
like someone said, if you were gonna breed or show them, itd be worth it. otherwise you are dumb. 5/7/2006 10:54:00 AM |
BobbleHead All American 780 Posts user info edit post |
I had an English, Savannah. She had a lot of health problems, if you don't pay 1k from the jump, you'll pay 10k over the first year. She had a 1500 surgery when she was 9 weeks old. She had to have health insurance, which still didn't cover everything and it was $60 a month. Her breathing and eyes were constantly bad, and in the weather here, she couldn't go on walks in the summer. Its a VERY defective breed even when purchasing from a good breeder. (Savannah cost us 2600 as a puppy) Her parents, and all of the other puppies born from them had no history, or reports of problem. She was the only one in this kennel's history to be this bad (so what i'm saying is even when spending a lot you never know). I loved her, but just as those dogs are expected she lasted only 7 years. I will never buy another english, its a huge expense, and not at ALL smart for a college student.
[Edited on May 7, 2006 at 11:21 AM. Reason : family] 5/7/2006 11:17:37 AM |
Drovkin All American 8438 Posts user info edit post |
get a learjet instead 5/7/2006 11:50:07 AM |
Han Jabba Veteran 168 Posts user info edit post |
After reading all this, and looking at my options...I definetly deffered this type of dog.
However, I did put a deposit on something else 5/7/2006 12:39:07 PM |