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mckoonts
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so a friend got arrested friday night. the handcuffs were the hinge type and cuffed behind his back really tightly. had to lean on them in the car on the way to the jail. when he got there, the cop switched them around to the front and he noticed some blood on his wrist. the cuffs had been digging in a lot so he just thought that they had cut him...

long story short, when he got the cuffs removed later, he realized that it was blood from whoever had the cuffs on before... they had scratched him up a bit, but didn't break the skin. anything he should be worried about? the scratches seem pretty superficial but could a bloodborne disease have made the transdermal leap?

5/7/2006 1:06:48 AM

Psykorage
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no, but he should go get tested anyways just to be safe.

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5/7/2006 1:25:33 AM

waffleninja
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^idiot

yes, it is possible

[Edited on May 7, 2006 at 1:35 AM. Reason : ]

5/7/2006 1:34:44 AM

mckoonts
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just get a general blood test somewhere? where and how much?

5/7/2006 1:39:22 AM

waffleninja
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you probably dont have to worry about anything like hiv, but hepatitis is possible.


really, i wouldnt worry about it.

[Edited on May 7, 2006 at 1:40 AM. Reason : ]

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5/7/2006 1:40:19 AM

mckoonts
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hepetitus(sp)?...

5/7/2006 1:41:45 AM

waffleninja
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yeah. likely, it's nothing. hiv really isnt transmitted easily that way. it is possible, but you'd probably be as likely to get it from a toilet seat. hepatitis is possible, but theres really no treatment, so just go to the doctor if symptoms show up (bumps on skin at the wrists where he was infected). even then, you have to realize that viruses do not do well when outside the body, so he shouldnt even worry about it.

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5/7/2006 1:45:19 AM

waffleninja
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read all of the stuff i pasted below.

http://www.cdc.gov/oralhealth/infectioncontrol/faq/bloodborne_exposures.htm

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"What is the risk of infection after an occupational exposure?

Hepatitis B Virus (HBV)

Health care workers who have received hepatitis B vaccine and have developed immunity to the virus are at virtually no risk for infection. For an unvaccinated person, the risk from a single needlestick or a cut exposure to HBV-infected blood ranges from 6%–30% and depends on the hepatitis B e antigen (HBeAg) status of the source individual. Individuals who are both hepatitis B surface antigen (HBsAg) positive and HBeAg positive have more virus in their blood and are more likely to transmit HBV.

Hepatitis C Virus (HCV)

Based on limited studies, the estimated risk for infection after a needlestick or cut exposure to HCV-infected blood is approximately 1.8%. The risk following a blood splash is unknown but is believed to be very small; however, HCV infection from such an exposure has been reported.

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Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV)

The average risk for HIV infection after a needlestick or cut exposure to HlV-infected blood is 0.3% (about 1 in 300). Stated another way, 99.7% of needlestick/cut exposures to HIV-contaminated blood do not lead to infection.
The risk after exposure of the eye, nose, or mouth to HIV-infected blood is estimated to be, on average, 0.1% (1 in 1,000).
The risk after exposure of the skin to HlV-infected blood is estimated to be less than 0.1%. A small amount of blood on intact skin probably poses no risk at all. There have been no documented cases of HIV transmission due to an exposure involving a small amount of blood on intact skin (a few drops of blood on skin for a short period of time). The risk may be higher if the skin is damaged (for example, by a recent cut), if the contact involves a large area of skin, or if the contact is prolonged.
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What should be done following an occupational exposure?

Wounds and skin sites that have been in contact with blood or body fluids should be washed with soap and water; mucous membranes should be flushed with water. Immediate evaluation must be performed by a qualified health care professional.1 Health care providers who evaluate exposed dental health care professionals should be

Selected before dental health care professionals are placed at risk of exposure.
Experienced in providing antiretroviral therapy.
Familiar with the unique nature of dental injuries so they can provide appropriate guidance on the need for antiretroviral prophylaxis.
Employers should follow all federal (including the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA)) and state requirements for recording and reporting occupational injuries and exposures. The following information should be included in the exposure report, recorded in the exposed person's confidential medical record, and made available to qualified health care professionals:1

Date and time of exposure.
Details of the procedure being performed, including where and how the exposure occurred, whether the exposure involved a sharp device, the type of device, whether there was visible blood on the device, and how and when during its handling the exposure occurred.
Details of the exposure, including the type and amount of fluid or material and the severity of the exposure. For a percutaneous injury, details would include the depth of the wound, the gauge of the needle, and whether fluid was injected; for a skin or mucous membrane exposure they would include the estimated volume of material, the duration of contact, and the condition of the skin (e.g., chapped, abraded, or intact).
Details about the exposure source—whether the patient was infected with hepatitis B virus (HBV) and his or her hepatitis B e antigen (HBeAg) status; hepatitis C virus (HCV); or human immunodeficiency virus (HIV); and, if the source was infected with HIV, the stage of disease, history of antiretroviral therapy, and viral load, if known. If this information is not known from the medical record, then the source patient should be asked to obtain serologic testing for HBV, HCV, and HIV.
Details about the exposed person (e.g., hepatitis B vaccination and vaccine-response status).
Details about counseling, post–exposure management, and follow-up. "

5/7/2006 1:47:14 AM

mckoonts
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thanks. very helpful

5/7/2006 1:53:36 AM

hcnguyen
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actually some viruses can be contracted by the blood being "rubbed in". it could seap the pours similar to how some of the rubons athletes use illegally work.

5/7/2006 2:28:11 AM

waffleninja
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but arent medical rubons normally delivered by a readily absorbed chemical like phenol?

5/7/2006 2:53:21 AM

brainysmurf
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if he is worried he can get post exposure prophilaxis


its a process similar to rabies exposure prophilaxis


but if he is relly worried i wouldnt wait around on it

5/7/2006 1:09:51 PM

Smath74
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what was he arrested for?

5/7/2006 1:42:11 PM

mckoonts
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dui, but the charges were dropped. the officer was just being a dick... made a lot of friends in the pokey though

5/7/2006 3:55:34 PM

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