saw it on the front page of Pack Pride. then read a thread on it. some guy posted his myspace page, so that others could write a comment on his page telling him to stay committed. i don't know, it seems a little weird, but whatever. i hope Lowe is able to keep the commits. we need quality depth.

http://mb17.scout.com/fnorthcarolinastatefrm1.showMessage?topicID=58441.topic

http://www.myspace.com/dhorn41

[Edited on May 17, 2006 at 1:08 AM. Reason : oops, haha. ]

5/17/2006 12:59:31 AM

i don't seems a little weird

5/17/2006 1:03:13 AM

isnt that 100% illegal for boosters to contact a recruit?

or is it ok since he already signed?

5/17/2006 1:07:58 AM

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"What college do you want to play for? Not sure now"

5/17/2006 1:12:45 AM

Ha ha

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"Major: Basketball"

Even if that was a major it would still be better than Maryland's Letters and Sciences major.

5/17/2006 10:27:43 PM

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"Once again Gettin Wettt"

this guy better be good to talk like that and be so "gangster"

i sent him a message though

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"sup man. i'm in grad school at state and did my undergrad here as well. i grew up in burlington as a huge duke fan so i know about the craze that is tobacco road basketball. there has been a lot of negative publicity around state with goons like greg doyel of cbs, but that's not what it's really like here. the fans are passionate. the rbc center is every bit as loud and intense as cameron indoor stadium and there is a TON of excitement with sidney lowe coming in. anyone who has helped coach the pistons to what they are now is going to be great as a coach in my book. i just wanted to drop you a line and let you know that there are great things going on here. i used to work with the women's bball team and i've seen the behind the scenes basketball stuff and there are great things going on here (also a lot of hot girls, if that matters to you). if you have any questions, just hit me up. just wanted to let you know that there are great basketball fans here and the program is on the rise. take it easy. chris check this out: http://html.wral.com/sh/blogger/2006/05/tom-suiter-lowe-much-needed-spark-in.html "Something that has been missing with N.C. State basketball since, well Jim Valvano was there, has been fun. Les Robinson didn't win a lot of games, and certainly, there wasn't a lot of fun. Herb Sendek won some games and went to the NCAA Tournament, but really, it seemed like going to some Pack games under Sendek was like going to the dentist. New coach Sidney Lowe intends to change that. He wants to win basketball games and have fun doing so. Lowe told his players on Saturday prior to his introductory press conference, that he didn't have a lot of rules. The only thing he asked of his players? Play hard and have fun. When Lowe played at State that's exactly what he did.""

[Edited on May 17, 2006 at 11:36 PM. Reason : .]

5/17/2006 11:21:38 PM

^ nice letter, hopefully it does some good

5/18/2006 1:16:36 PM

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"Most used move? DUnkin on fools"

5/18/2006 2:00:09 PM

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/sports/highschool/story/6367160p-6221034c.html

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"By MICHAEL McGARRY Staff Writer, (609) 272-7185 Published: Thursday, May 18, 2006 Updated: Thursday, May 18, 2006 Dennis Horner is considering his college basketball options. The Holy Spirit High School senior and The Press Co-Player of the Year signed a letter of intent last October to attend North Carolina State University. But Herb Sendek, then State's coach, left the school in early April for Arizona State. North Carolina State recently hired Detroit Pistons assistant Sidney Lowe. Horner's father Edgar said Wednesday his son has asked North Carolina State for a release from his letter of intent. But the father quickly added that his son has not yet signed the release. Horner, who just turned 18, will play in an AAU tournament in North Carolina next weekend. Edgar Horner said his son and other family members probably will meet with North Carolina State officials that weekend. Lowe has spoken with Horner's mother Louanne, but Lowe cannot yet speak with Horner because the coach has yet to pass the NCAA's recruiting certification exam. Lowe has not had time to take the test because the Pistons are involved in the NBA playoffs. To e-mail Michael McGarry at The Press: MMcGarry@pressofac.com"

5/18/2006 2:07:29 PM

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"Basketball or Pussy?"

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"THats a tough one but im gonna have to say ball"

5/18/2006 6:15:43 PM

DHORN added me on myspace...he MUST be coming here now

5/25/2006 1:12:15 PM

^ lol, same here.

5/25/2006 2:02:40 PM

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"the fans are passionate."

yep.

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"the rbc center is every bit as loud and intense as cameron indoor stadium "

nope.

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"and there is a TON of excitement with sidney lowe coming in."

nope.

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"anyone who has helped coach the pistons to what they are now is going to be great as a coach in my book."

it may have slipped your mind, but you forgot to mention his head coaching stints with Minnesota and Vancouver/Memphis--those bode well.

5/25/2006 3:18:38 PM

kasey is a girl's name

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"the fans are passionate."

yep.

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"the rbc center is every bit as loud and intense as cameron indoor stadium "

yes it is for big games...i've been given tickets by coach k for duke vs. unc on the floor and the rbc center can be just as loud.

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"and there is a TON of excitement with sidney lowe coming in."

yes there is.

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"anyone who has helped coach the pistons to what they are now is going to be great as a coach in my book."

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"it may have slipped your mind, but you forgot to mention his head coaching stints with Minnesota and Vancouver/Memphis--those bode well."

did you see who was on the teams that he coached? exaaactly...

5/25/2006 3:27:11 PM

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"kasey is a girl's name"

5/25/2006 3:31:02 PM

horner's AAU team is playing in the Dail Basketball Center tomorrow night at 8:30 on our campus. Up near the Weiseger-Brown Building and ?Wood? Hall? I might go check his game out.

5/25/2006 3:39:52 PM

^^, ^^^

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"did you see who was on the teams that he coached? exaaactly..."

by that same logic, his being a great coach cause he gets to ASSIST in coaching the talent laden pistons is completely irrelevant

he better be able to coach mediocre players to a good record or he will be out of a job come this time next year with our squad.

AND...the guy with the girl name has a hot girlfriend while Moody the illogical bitch and DC the Chump do not. Go masturbate, clear your head, and come back with an argument that makes sense.

5/25/2006 3:40:58 PM

Kasey's on a pms trip.

5/25/2006 3:47:00 PM

my flow is heavy this week

5/25/2006 3:50:07 PM

5/25/2006 3:57:12 PM

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"it may have slipped your mind, but you forgot to mention his head coaching stints with Minnesota and Vancouver/Memphis--those bode well."

Bernie Bickerstaff won like 40 games total over the last 2 years with the Bobcats and lost the other ~124

yet he coached the Seattle Sonics to a 60 win season and a trip to the Western Conference Finals before losing to the eventual NBA Champion Los Angeles Lakers back in 1988 I believe

I dont give a fuck who coaches the Minnesota Timberwolves and Vancouver Grizzlies in their first couple seasons...they're not gonna finish near .500....hell look at Larry Brown...NBA title...2 years later...arguably the worst team in the NBA

5/25/2006 4:01:31 PM

^^thanks, ill buy one for twista while im getting mine

^ and I don't care who coaches, much less assists in coaching, prince, hamilton, sheed, ben and billups, they are going to win.

be consistent in your use of logic

5/25/2006 4:06:37 PM

^ so what you're saying is that coaching doesn't matter in the NBA? It's all about the players?

Then why quote Lowe's coaching record at all?

5/25/2006 4:09:45 PM

^^just like they won the title last year

or just like they beat the heat in game 1

right? logic? consistent? clue?

^i think coaching matters less in the nba than college ball but it certainly matters plenty...they dont pay them millions of dollars for nothing

5/25/2006 4:10:31 PM

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"i think coaching matters less in the nba than college ball but it certainly matters plenty...they dont pay them millions of dollars for nothing"

It depends though... they do say NBA coaching is strictly X's and O's, match-ups, and that its much more difficult in that regard than college. College is more about recruiting and team management. You can't take a team from worse to first with strictly coaching in the NBA but its possible in college because there is more to development and more variable in general.

5/25/2006 4:17:05 PM

^^^basically your assumption is correct--i dont think coaching really matters in the NBA. by the time most decent players get there they need little coaching or go into development league for it.

but college is a lot different; immature players, physically and mentally, need guidance, not a lack of rules as lowe has suggested. my point is that saying Lowe helped coach a great team does not, and will not, equate into State having a good program when he gets here and starts coaching.

Also, I would hope for Horner's sake that letters from biased fans, would play no part in his decision. I consider my opinion educated, but my words are meant for the ears of oppositely opinionated fans, as are Moody's and anyone else who writes him without credibility.

--the highest decibel level at RBC will never be as high as Cameron's

Finally, the NBA sucks---that's a scientific fact

[Edited on May 25, 2006 at 4:20 PM. Reason : grmr]

5/25/2006 4:19:21 PM

as far as the loudness of the rbc center: did i hear correctly that at the hurricanes/sabres' game 2 that they recorded the high decibel levels of any sporting event? if so, i would say that our arena loudness would rival just about anyone's.

5/25/2006 4:29:42 PM

if all of them, obviously some are, were pack fans---and if we were playing in our conference final like the Canes are then maybe

but consistently, duke home basketball games are much louder than state home basketball games, especially during non-conference play

--sendek said he was blown away by the decibel level in reynolds after one of the heritage games and we barely get half of that venue filled for those games, cameron is always filled and always really loud.

[Edited on May 25, 2006 at 4:37 PM. Reason : then]

5/25/2006 4:37:02 PM

Cameron has been measured as high as 125 decibels and the RBC went over 125 in game 2... so yes the RBC Center can be louder than Cameron.

5/25/2006 4:40:52 PM

while it is irrelevant because we are talking about college basketball, please link that info if you dont mind.

5/25/2006 4:44:58 PM

http://www.herald-sun.com/sports/18-737951.html

first place i saw mention of it (at bottom of page in "notes"):

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" The Hurricanes reported a decibel level of 133.2 following Ray Whitney's second-period goal that made the score 3-1 on Monday, adding that the previous record claim for an indoor team sport was 127 at a Sacramento Kings NBA home game. "

5/25/2006 4:49:12 PM

thanks

that is intense. i wonder if it is official.

5/25/2006 4:53:45 PM

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"Finally, the NBA sucks---that's a scientific fact"

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"the previous record claim for an indoor team sport was 127 at a Sacramento Kings NBA home game."

you suck

5/25/2006 5:04:00 PM

jamie, not to mention that this kid is only like 21 years old
he is one of those think i know everything guys

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"writes him without credibility"

like how credible you say you are and yet you dont have any pictures of this HOT girlfriend you pretend to have

5/25/2006 5:09:47 PM

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"I consider my opinion educated, but my words are meant for the ears of oppositely opinionated fans, as are Moody's and anyone else who writes him without credibility. "

I didn't say I was credible. I said I was opinionated--as are you and everyone else on here.

As far as pictures, it is obvious from my number of posts that I don't spend an inordinate amount of time here, so I feel no need to prove myself to you guys...but I'm sure there are other places besides TWW that you can find pictures. You guys are obviously on the internet a lot...figure it out.

5/25/2006 7:18:30 PM

obviously that would imply that i care
you, nor your opinion matter enough
nephew

5/25/2006 7:45:22 PM

DUNKIN ON FOOLS

5/25/2006 7:47:59 PM

well two years ago at the FSU bball game (which we lost ) i saw the decibel meter put on the big screen and it jumped to 121 dB and was sustained at 118 dB. it wasn't even a packed house. yeah right now Cameron is more consistently louder than the RBC Center, but it can definitely get as loud, if not louder, than Cameron. i've had my ears hurt a couple of times this past season during certain games. Wake being the most memorable for me. if we get to being on the level success of the elite teams, then the RBC Center will definitely get packed out more and be way louder.

5/25/2006 8:41:57 PM

people think cameron is louder because it's shoddily built and everything shakes when people are jumping up and down.

5/25/2006 8:43:43 PM

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"basically your assumption is correct--i dont think coaching really matters in the NBA. by the time most decent players get there they need little coaching or go into development league for it."

You have any basis for this?

They don't need the same style of coaching that they get in college (developing fundamentals, working with your teammates), but coaching is still a huge part of the NBA.

5/25/2006 8:58:03 PM

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"^^^basically your assumption is correct--i dont think coaching really matters in the NBA. by the time most decent players get there they need little coaching or go into development league for it."

oh so that is why before avery johnson coached the mavs they couldnt compete with the spurs but once he took over...well we all know what happened there

nice try though

5/25/2006 9:45:56 PM

i guess i dont see how you can coach some of these guys in the nba; lebron james---didn't even go to college--how do you teach him to play? He doesn't need it, just let him do his thing. With so much talent on a team like the pistons you can set up an offense and just let them go at it. Hence 130 point scores and 80 point individual efforts. Sendek on the other hand was able to take mediocre players and coach them into a unit.

not saying sidney lowe cant, but its gonna be completely different from nba chaperoning

5/25/2006 10:00:22 PM

"setting up an offense and letting them go at it" doesn't hold the Cavs to 61 points in game 7.

Like I said, the focus of the coaching is different. But just because it's not as obvious as college coaching doesn't mean it's at all less important.

And Christ, the Pistons are the WORST example you could have picked. They play so flawlessly as a team because they've been coached to do so.

[Edited on May 25, 2006 at 10:03 PM. Reason : ]

5/25/2006 10:02:17 PM

drawing up plays for certain situations, adjusting the gameplan on the fly, picking who to play and when, creating the correct matchups, etc

there is more to coaching then teaching them how to shoot a ball

5/25/2006 10:04:35 PM

^^^yeah, thats just a terrible post. The Pistons win with precise teamwork, execution and D, not by running as fast as they can and trying to outscore everybody.

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"Sendek on the other hand was able to take mediocre players and coach them into a unit."

This made me laugh. Mostly because according to recruiting rankings, Sendek had plenty of talent to work with. But the big men never learned how to post up or box out, and the guards never learned how to protect the ball or drive and dish effectively. But hey, they were a "unit", right?

[Edited on May 25, 2006 at 10:08 PM. Reason : 2]

5/25/2006 10:08:01 PM

they learned how to choke as a unit
they learned how to heave 3s as a unit
they learned how to look at julius hodge as a unit

5/25/2006 10:11:51 PM

You mean that making your center a PG in the weave and heave offense isn't the best way to utilize a big guy's talent???

5/25/2006 10:12:07 PM

haha

gg

5/25/2006 10:15:17 PM

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"Quote : "Finally, the NBA sucks---that's a scientific fact" Quote : "the previous record claim for an indoor team sport was 127 at a Sacramento Kings NBA home game." you suck"

C'mon, Tree... you know damn well that being an NBA game odds are that noise level was only achieved when the crowd went hysterical from one of those thug-ass players attacking yet another innocent fan in the stands.

5/25/2006 11:09:51 PM

wow this thread got way off topic, haha.

5/25/2006 11:18:46 PM