...like Woodfoot and JonHGuth...who will not stop whining to the mods and trying to get me suspended when I'm doing absolutely nothing wrong.

These pathetic, whining, bitching trolls are dedicated to trying to censor/silence me or run me out of the Soap Box. Apparantly for no other reason than their strong opposition to my views, which is more than clear now that I am restricted to posting in only my own threads in the SB per my agreement with SB moderator theDuke866. Also, I can only create no more than one thread per week. And, by the way, theDuke866 will vouch for the fact that I've been completely cooperative and have complied fully with this agreement, and am not causing any trouble in the SB.

Initially, these trolls claimed I was "messing up" other users' threads by mentioning "taboo" or politically incorrect subjects like Zionist/Jewish power in their threads. So what did they do? They spammed the SB with a zillion cheese threads and then tried to make it out like I was the one messing up the SB.

And they still claim that my focus on Jewish/Zionist issues is somehow a basis for suspension or continuing restriction on my posting abilities. This is nothing more than arguing for viewpoint censorship. They cannot cite one rule or thing I'm really doing wrong to warrant such censorship, let alone suspension.

But even now when I'm restricted to posting in my own threads, this same small group of trolls will not stop whining to the mods trying to get me suspended. And they troll my threads (admittedly in the case of JonHGuth and Woodfoot), spamming them with nonsense to try to harass me. I know the mods have to be sick of their whining and bitching about me. But I'm not the problem. They are. I'm doing nothing wrong. Meanwhile, they are trolling my threads, spamming the SB with threads akin to cheese threads, and whining to the mods trying to make it out like I'm the problem.

This is all a big joke.

If the mods start suspending these trouble-makers, it would put an end to their bitching about me.


[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 9:18 AM. Reason : ```]

5/18/2006 9:09:06 AM

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"YOU CONSTANTLY MAKE WILD CLAIMS AND WILL NOT DEFEND THEM WITH RATIONAL DISCOURSE, WHICH IS WHAT THE FUCKING SOAPBOX IS FOR. YOU WILL NEVER PROVIDE ANY EVIDENCE TO BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS. YOU POST LINK AFTER LINK TO MORE BULLSHIT THAT CAN, HAS, AND WILL BE EASILY REFUTED AND WHEN IT IS YOU IGNORE IT AND GO RIGHT BACK TO POSTING THE SAME EXACT SHIT. FOR THIS ALONE YOU SHOULD BE BANNED. IT IS ABSOLUTELY RE-GOD-DAMNED-DICULOUS THAT THIS IS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE. BOTH THAT DUKE, WHO IS NEVER AROUND ANYWAY, WILL ALLOW IT WHEN HE IS, AND MORE SO THAT THE FUCKING OWNERS AND PEOPLE WHO RUN THIS SHIT WILL ALLOW IT. YOU ARE A WASTE OF HUMAN SKIN."

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"it no longer does any good to contribute anything you either ignore it or continue on with your bullshit so what point is there other than to call you out for the douchenozzle you are? [Mr Joshua] has REPEATEDLY asked you legitimate questions [in regard to issues you brought up] which you either ignore or skirt. this is "100% PROVEN FACT" as you so like to spout and i really do hope you die. in a fire."

[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 9:34 AM. Reason : *]

5/18/2006 9:32:09 AM

guys...dont respond to this crap....he is getting more and more desperate and more and more pathetic

5/18/2006 9:35:02 AM

You want something that is REALLY desperate and pathetic? Read 30thAnnz's post:

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"YOU CONSTANTLY MAKE WILD CLAIMS AND WILL NOT DEFEND THEM WITH RATIONAL DISCOURSE"

Total nonsense. I clearly engage in rational discourse and discussion in regard to my claims.

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"YOU WILL NEVER PROVIDE ANY EVIDENCE TO BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS."

I "NEVER" provide evidence? NEVER? COMPLETE bullshit. I clearly provide evidence to support at least some of my claims. In fact, I provide evidence to support virtually all of my claims.

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"and i really do hope you die. in a fire."

This is the kind of pure hatred towards me...and trolling...that I'm talking about.

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"YOU SHOULD BE BANNED"

And why? Because of his LIES about me "not defending my claims with rational discourse" and "never providing evidence"? What an absolute crock of shit.

30thAnnz's little tirades are completely desperate and pathetic. It's classic whining and bitching. He obviously hates me and wants me censored, but all he can do is make false allegations about me, and try to insult me and say he wishes I was dead.

30thAnnz should be suspended for: 1. trolling, 2. making false allegations about users and trying to get them suspended when that user has done nothing wrong, 3. generally being a whiny little bitch and bothering the moderators with his crap, 4. attacking and harassing other users, including threatening them by saying he would kill them and wish they were dead

But I'm the one "causing trouble" and being desperate, right?


[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 9:46 AM. Reason : ```````]

5/18/2006 9:43:51 AM

ask duke the last time i pm'd him anything about you.

but I'M the one making shit up, right?

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"Total nonsense. I clearly engage in rational discourse and discussion in regard to my claims."

you are completely deluded. you have evaded and skirted at least 27 questions in regard to your claims. do you call that rational discourse or discussion? yeah, SHUT THE FUCK UP.

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"I "NEVER" provide evidence? NEVER? COMPLETE bullshit. I clearly provide evidence to support at least some of my claims. In fact, I provide evidence to support virtually all of my claims."

once again, you mongoloid, more conjecture and wild claims DOES NOT EQUAL evidence of anything. not one time have you provided any concrete evidence to back up any of your claims. while others have provided you with multitudes of real evidence that points the other way, which you ignore.

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"This is the kind of pure hatred towards me...and trolling...that I'm talking about."

i hope for a painful death for you, but i wouldn't call that trolling. if it wasn't true, maybe.

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"And why? Because of his LIES about me "not defending my claims with rational discourse" and "never providing evidence." What an absolute crock of shit."

you are 100% delusional. paranoia and schizophrenia as well, most likely.

[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 9:51 AM. Reason : *]

5/18/2006 9:50:31 AM

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"you are completely deluded. you have evaded and skirted at least 27 questions in regard to your claims. do you call that rational discourse or discussion? yeah, SHUT THE FUCK UP."

The only "questions" I'm avoiding are snide "questions" by Mr. Joshua. He's asking questions over and over THAT I'VE ALREADY RESPONDED TO AND ON ISSUES I'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED. He's clearly trolling me.

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"once again, you mongoloid"

"mongoloid"? I thought you cared about rational, respectful discussions? But all you can do is call me names and say you want me dead.

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"not one time have you provided any concrete evidence to back up any of your claims."

suuuuuuuure

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"i hope for a painful death for you, but i wouldn't call that trolling."

So, it's ok for you to hate me bitterly, but you then have the nerve to accuse me of having "hatred" towards others? Hypocritical much?

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"you are completly delusional."

Coming from a troll who make laughable claims such as that I've "NEVER provided any evidence to support my claims".

You are an absolute joke, 30thAnnz.


[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 9:58 AM. Reason : ```]

5/18/2006 9:55:51 AM

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"Coming from a troll who make laughable claims such as that I've "NEVER provided any evidence to support my claims"."

delusion.

5/18/2006 10:02:33 AM

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"suuuuuuuure"

you havent provided any proof....EVER...for about three pages all i asked you for was some conclusive undenaible proof that zionist jews organized and carried out 9/11....you NEVER provided it....

5/18/2006 10:03:41 AM

I have clearly provided evidence supporting my claims. The only thing is that people like you choose to deny that evidence for whatever reason and claim that it's not sufficient.

And even if I'm not providing the "proof" that you deem acceptable or I'm not answering every single one of your questions to your exact liking, how in the hell is that grounds for suspension? IT ISN'T. If refusal to discuss issues to other users' liking was a grouds for suspension, the mods would have to suspend virtually everyone.

But that issue is moot, because I CLEARLY DO engage in rational discussions, respond to other users points and questions, and provide evidence for my claims. And for you and other trolls to say that I don't do those things is LAUGHABLE.

5/18/2006 10:08:51 AM

you clearly DONT engage in rational discussions...

95% of the time you only engage in debate when someone is calling you out on your crap. And when that happens its not related to the thread. its only related to the person calling you out. You try this for a few minutes then resort to just pasting more crap from your god alex jones (dont get pissy about that....i have seen the messege boards and how yall treat him .."OMG did you hear alex today??? he was so good!!") You have never provided any conclusive proof for any of the absurd claims you make and then you get mad when people call you out on it.

that said....i dont know if thats grounds for termination or not. but dont even act like you back up the things you say with anything more than opinions and more wild speculation. linking to articles with more opinion and wild speculation does not equal proof

[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 10:14 AM. Reason : 666]

5/18/2006 10:13:50 AM

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"but dont even act like you back up the things you say with anything more than opinions and more wild speculation. linking to articles with more opinion and wild speculation does not equal proof"

All anyone has to do in order to see that these allegations that I "NEVER provide any evidence" is complete and utter bullshit is take a look at my threads. Look at the current 9/11 thread. You will see literally hundreds of links to "mainstream" articles (eg, BBC, CNN, FOXNews, CBS, ABC, etc.) supporting my position. Yet, you and other trolls try to say I "never" provide evidence. It's a joke.

All you and 30th are doing is basically saying that those articles, videos, etc. do not support my position, and calling them "wild speculation", blah, blah, blah. And is this the best you can come up with in order to try to get me silenced and censored? How pathetic. That should show everyone that I'm doing nothing wrong if that's the best "dirt" you can come up with.

5/18/2006 10:20:52 AM

yes everyone...please please please...look at salis threads and you will see that he has provided zero proof that any of his wild thoeries are true....sketchy evidence and wild speculation are NOT proof. And pasting links (obtained from prisonplants resource guide) to MSM articles is not rational discussion.

if the best you can do for argument is "is this the best you can do yo silence me" then you are truly pathetic. you are getting desperate and will say just about anything for attention. so please. keep it up.


oh...and i guess i have been labled a troll now....great....so now you feel justified in ignoring me too...well done salis...well done

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"All you and 30th are doing is basically saying that those articles, videos, etc. do not support my position, and calling them "wild speculation"

where on earth did i ever say that they dont support your position??....all im saying is those links dont PROVE anything....not a thing....to use your own pathetic phrase ..."strawman much"

and we dont have to dig up any dirt salis....its all right there in the threads



[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 10:28 AM. Reason : 666]

5/18/2006 10:24:06 AM

you have admitted you are an alias, using someone elses name to post

5/18/2006 10:35:23 AM

Quote :

"Why didn't they build a pipeline in 1998? Why did they blow up their own african embassies and then launch a missile attack on Afghanistan? They were set to build a natural gas pipeline with the Taliban then. Why mess that up for no reason? NEVER ANSWERED You don't believe that Afghanistan was invaded for the sake of a pipeline? Then why are you defending that theory so stubbornly? NEVER ANSWERED You just said that Afghanistan was invaded so that a pipeline could be built. Now you're saying that the zionists wanted to prevent the building of a pipeline - just like how Iraq was invaded to secure the oil supply even though the zionists don't care about the oil supply. How do you reconcile all of the conflicting information that you spout off on here? NEVER ANSWERED Although you will respond to the first sentence while ignoring the largest part of the question. By the way, how did the zionists cause the Revolutionary War? NEVER ANSWERED Do you even know anything about american history? To say that the Civil War was caused simply by "illuminati agitators" is to ignore almost every detail of the decades that preceded the conflict. NEVER ANSWERED Can we get some proof that John Wilkes Booth was an agent of the NWO rather than an upset Confederate sympathizer? NEVER ANSWERED I would also like to see some proof that Pearl Harbor was caused by the evil edomite zionists. NEVER ANSWERED You have provided absolutely no evidence at all that the Rothschilds are the zionists at the top running world events. They were a prominent family that supported the creation of a jewish state, that is all. Please provide some evidence other than "Here are some rich jews!" NEVER ANSWERED So why should anyone believe your rantings anyway You have admitted that you hate jews. As such, you are far from an impartial source when you blame jews for every problem in the world. NEVER ANSWERED So when was the Israeli false flag terrorist attack in Washington state? NEVER ANSWERED Why is it spamming if I repeat unanswered questions, but it's ok for you to repost the same article in the same thread five times? NEVER ANSWERED Keep running, little buddy."

answer some goddam questions.

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"Mods, suspend 30thAnnZ, abonorio, and other trolls... like Woodfoot and JonHGuth...who will not stop whining to the mods and trying to get me suspended "

ahahahahahahahahahahahaha. And that is the definition of irony.

[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 10:54 AM. Reason : .]

5/18/2006 10:54:04 AM

hahahahah

JOHN WILKES BOOTHE THE EDOMITE ZIONIST AGENT

5/18/2006 10:56:47 AM

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"you have admitted you are an alias, using someone elses name to post"

No. I'm only using one tww account.

The use of an alias involves a poster using 2 or more accounts.

Keep swinging.

5/18/2006 11:04:28 AM

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"Mods, suspend 30thAnnZ, abonorio, and other trolls... like Woodfoot and JonHGuth...who will not stop whining to the mods and trying to get me suspended"

hahahahahahahahahahah.... only a jew would say something like that...


o shit. I got it.




salisbury is a self hating jew.

5/18/2006 11:29:25 AM

5/18/2006 11:47:58 AM

salisburyboy maybe if you posted a single primary resource instead of a bunch of non-credible conspiracy theorist "fake news" sites you wouldnt get flamed so hard

5/18/2006 12:11:12 PM

Dude, the sources in my threads--including my 9/11 thread for instance--primarily include "mainstream" sources like BBC, CBS, CNN, ABC, Washington Post, Sydney Morning Herald, UPI, etc.

Just look at the first page of the current 9/11 thread for instance:
http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=398061

Probably 70-80%+ of the links on that page are to "mainstream" sources. And of those that aren't mainstream, many are links to archives of mainstream articles.


[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 12:35 PM. Reason : ```````]

5/18/2006 12:29:07 PM

yet you consistantly deride the MSM for being part of this vast conspiracy.

make up your damned mind.

5/18/2006 12:39:26 PM

salisbury, your sources are not MSM. Maybe your first page is. Everything thereafter: prisonplanet. There's 80 pages of prisonplanet bullshit. Look, don't try to sugar coat things. If you believe this shit, that's fine. But don't make shit up like the majority of your sources are legit. Both you and I know that they aren't.


You would make a good scientologist. You'll believe anything.

5/18/2006 12:53:47 PM

THIS

THREAD

IS

EPIC

5/18/2006 1:42:49 PM

Quote :

"Mods, suspend 30thAnnZ, abonorio, and other trolls... like Woodfoot and JonHGuth...who will not stop whining to the mods and trying to get me suspended"

like most of salisburyboy's threads, this one starts out with loose logic and irony.

Here's the gem:

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"If the mods start suspending these trouble-makers, it would put an end to their bitching about me."

And so would suspending you.

[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 1:49 PM. Reason : .]

5/18/2006 1:44:22 PM

Quote :

"And so would suspending you"

Yeah, but I'm doing nothing wrong to warrant such a suspension.

Meanwhile, you and the others who are attacking me are are (admittedly) trolling my threads, spamming the SB with cheese threads and other crap that is intentionally designed to ef up the SB, bitching and whining to the mods to suspend me when I've done nothing to dererve such action, etc.

Who really deserves suspension again?

5/18/2006 2:34:38 PM

uhh....you do....everyone knows it....except you apparently

5/18/2006 2:52:14 PM

I stopped reading at "I'm doing nothing wrong." I disregarded everything thereafter. It's usually how i treat your shit threads.

5/18/2006 3:01:46 PM

What am I supposedly doing wrong to warrant such a suspension?

5/18/2006 3:02:06 PM

see above, genius

5/18/2006 3:04:07 PM

You can't give me a good reason why any action should be taken against me. There is none.

You and the troll brigade are the ones deserving suspension for your constant trolling, whining to mods, spamming the SB with cheese threads, and other nonsense.

5/18/2006 3:06:48 PM

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"You and the troll brigade are the ones deserving suspension for your constant trolling, whining to mods, spamming the SB with cheese your ridiculous motherfucking threads where you do nothing but spam and won't carry on conversation threads, and other nonsense."

fixed it.

5/18/2006 4:00:47 PM

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"The only "questions" I'm avoiding are snide "questions" by Mr. Joshua. He's asking questions over and over THAT I'VE ALREADY RESPONDED TO AND ON ISSUES I'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED. He's clearly trolling me."

You haven't addressed any of them. You addressed one of them so I removed it from the list and replaced it with two more that you brought up. Trying to dismiss the questions as snide while slandering me as a troll will get you nowhere.

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"Mods, suspend 30thAnnZ, abonorio, and other trolls"

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""To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore. The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used against them -- except force."--JBR Yant"

ahahahaha

5/18/2006 4:14:17 PM

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"You haven't addressed any of them"

That's complete bullshit. I've already addressed virtually every one of the issues you raised.

And I'm not calling for an outright ban on them or trying to silence their point of view--which is what my opponents ARE trying to do to me.

My point here is that if constantly whining to the mods like a little bitch trying to get people suspended for no good reason, trolling, and spamming the SB with nonsense threads should not be tolerated, then these people need to be sent a message that it's not going to be tolerated.



[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 4:26 PM. Reason : ````````]

5/18/2006 4:21:21 PM

So what is spamming?

Cut & paste while refusing to have a rational discussion?

5/18/2006 4:23:55 PM

You're an idiot. Anybody can see that I can (and do) have rational discussions. But I'm not going to respond to your trolling.

And at least I can have respectful discussions. I don't spam other peoples threads with crap with the intention of messing up the thread (like JonHGuth and Woodfoot have done to my 9/11 thread, for example).

But I take it that you don't think Woodfoot or JonHGuth are doing anything wrong by admittedly trolling and spamming my thread, do you? No, you think that's perfectly fine in your book.


[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 4:32 PM. Reason : ```````]

5/18/2006 4:28:17 PM

Man oh man! Double slander in one post! I must have hit a nerve!

Rational discussion = defending your ideas. You ignore everything that you can't answer.

5/18/2006 4:30:58 PM

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"Anybody can see that I can (and do) have rational discussions. "

anybody? I certainly qualify in that group and I must be fucking blind cause I don't see it. AND YOU DO NOT EVEN BEGIN TO ENGAGE IN ANY SORT OF COHERENT AND RATIONAL DISCUSSION UNLESS YOU CALL CTRL+C CTRL+V AS DISCUSSION

[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 4:31 PM. Reason : .]

5/18/2006 4:31:18 PM

What is this we're having right now? Is it not a rational discussion?

5/18/2006 4:33:46 PM

NO BECAUSE YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER THE GODDAM QUESTIONS

5/18/2006 4:34:20 PM

salis is getting MORE profane??

...MORE desperation??

5/18/2006 4:34:57 PM

No, just more angry.

And if profanity is a measure of desperation in all instances, then your troll friends have been desperate for a long time now. Insults and smear campaigns are their primary tactic when trying to defend the official 9/11 story, for instance. A respectful, rational, logical discussion of the facts and evidence is not what they want, because any examination of the evidence destroys their position.

5/18/2006 4:41:43 PM

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"But I take it that you don't think Woodfoot or JonHGuth are doing anything wrong by admittedly trolling and spamming my thread, do you?"

Their main beef with you is your failure to have a rational discussion. You bring it upon yourself, little buddy.

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"Insults and smear campaigns are their primary tactic when trying to defend the official 9/11 story"

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"You're an idiot.....But I'm not going to respond to your trolling."

Glad to see that you're above that.

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"A respectful, rational, logical discussion of the facts and evidence is not what they want, because any examination of the evidence destroys their position."

You refuse to even look at evidence that contradicts your opinion.

5/18/2006 4:46:13 PM

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"And at least I can have respectful discussions. I don't spam other peoples threads with crap with the intention of messing up the thread (like JonHGuth and Woodfoot have done to my 9/11 thread, for example)."

yeah because duke told you you'd be banned if you continue to do it.

EDUCATION THREAD LIKE WHOA MOTHERFUCKER

5/18/2006 4:47:16 PM

Quote :

"yeah because duke told you you'd be banned if you continue to do it"

I NEVER tried to sabotage peoples threads by spamming it with stuff. All I did was simply discuss Jews or Zionism, and trolls like you went ballistic, apparantly arguing that that is a "taboo" subject, and mentioning Zionism in any discussion is somehow "spamming", blah, blah, blah.

Contrast that to JonHGuth spamming my current 9/11 thread with literally dozens of old posts of mine in the blatant attempt to mess up the thread and genearally harass me.

But I don't suppose you think JonHGuth should be suspended for that, right? You are a hypocrite. And I haven't even done anything wrong. You want to censor me because of my views. Bottom line.

5/18/2006 4:59:12 PM

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"I NEVER tried to sabotage peoples threads by spamming it with stuff. All I did was simply discuss Jews or Zionism, and trolls like you went ballistic, apparantly arguing that that is a "taboo" subject, and mentioning Zionism in any discussion is somehow "spamming", blah, blah, blah."

COMPLETE horseshit. the education thread was the last in a LONG LONG LONG series of serious threads that you derailed with this zionist/edomite/jew bullshit.

you did it as often as you could, in as many threads as you could. any attempt by you now to deny this fact is absolutely PATHETIC.

5/18/2006 5:04:04 PM

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"COMPLETE horseshit. the education thread was the last in a LONG LONG LONG series of serious threads that you derailed with this zionist/edomite/jew bullshit"

As I recall, I only made 1-2 posts in that thread. The only way it got "derailed" is if other people started discussing some of the issues I brought up.

And I wasn't trying to damage the thread or anything like that. I was simply providing my view on the issue. It wasn't like I was pic-bombing the thread or spammed 50-100 old posts such as JonHGuth has done to my 9/11 thread.

5/18/2006 5:08:15 PM

you said that all the problems in education were not only the result of but the DIRECT result of a jewish zionist conspiracy.

if that wasn't intended to derail a thread, you are stupider than i have given you credit for.

5/18/2006 5:19:10 PM

And you did completely derail it. It was actually an intelligent commentary (a dying breed in TWW) and you basically shat all over it and ruined it like anything else you touch.

5/18/2006 6:32:05 PM

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"I "NEVER" provide evidence? NEVER? COMPLETE bullshit. I clearly provide evidence to support at least some of my claims. In fact, I provide evidence to support virtually all of my claims."

provide evidence of this for crying out loud

i want links

5/18/2006 6:38:44 PM

and not to prisonplanet kthx

5/18/2006 6:54:51 PM