The thing about the holodeck I found absurd was that everyone seemed obsessed with interacting with characters from novels and such.


It would have been used for holo-sex, and nothing else.

6/2/2006 2:08:58 PM

I never understood how they were able to walk "beyond" the bounds of the actual room they were in. Like if there were holographically "outside" how could they move around without hitting the walls of the room?


Oh yeah and it would be used for a lot of sex too.

6/2/2006 2:11:48 PM

But the Sherlock Holmes TNG episodes were adorable.

Oh, and I actually think they had "erotic programs" in DS9 or something.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Holo-programs#Erotic_simulations

[Edited on June 2, 2006 at 2:16 PM. Reason : .]

6/2/2006 2:14:22 PM

I'd have been giving it to Troi Klingon style all day long if I had one of those.

6/2/2006 2:37:42 PM

Paging that dirty trekkie, Smath74.

6/2/2006 2:57:50 PM

^^Quark would be all up in that

6/2/2006 4:02:39 PM

I'm pretty sure there was an episode where Quark tried to make a porno with the honkey half klingon girl, but then she h4xed it and put Quark's face on the body.

6/2/2006 4:11:28 PM

BWHAHAHA

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"It would have been used for holo-sex, and nothing else"

6/2/2006 4:15:11 PM

yeah, that's pretty much the poitn behind Quark's "Holo-Suites"... if not expressly stated then it was aluded to many times throughout DS9...

much more realistic use of the holo-technology...

although inserting oneself into James Bondesque adventures was a pretty sweet idea too...

Sidenote: Babylon 5 had holo-brothels, not the same thing, involved wearing a suite and having a VR display, but similar concept...



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6/2/2006 4:19:41 PM

Why is it the sex programs never go crazy and escape the holodeck, fucking everybody onboard?

6/2/2006 4:23:58 PM

ha ha after a regrettable hookup you might be lucky and realize

omg I was on teh holodeck the whole time!

6/2/2006 4:34:19 PM

that shit would be packed at 2AM

6/2/2006 4:46:06 PM

Poor Scruffy problably has to clean the spooge when people are done with it.

6/2/2006 5:49:50 PM

so like could you fuck bitches with stds and not get the std?

6/2/2006 6:17:27 PM

^ Worst idea for a holoprogram, ever.

6/2/2006 6:38:36 PM

someone needs to call the cops, because cpt. picard stole one of the enterprises' holodecks to but in the his mansion

6/2/2006 6:55:20 PM

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" to but in the his mansion"

what?

6/2/2006 7:04:07 PM

Hahahahaha.

6/2/2006 7:07:00 PM

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"I never understood how they were able to walk "beyond" the bounds of the actual room they were in. Like if there were holographically "outside" how could they move around without hitting the walls of the room?"

they were never really on the physical 'floor' as the entire environment is 'created' via force fields and holography...

so...

when they move, like a treadmill the 'environment' moves around them... for multiple people the environment 'compacts' in the non visible space between them...

6/2/2006 7:34:06 PM

^thats what I always figured too

but something that does boggle me is how do characters walk out of the holodeck wet from hologram water

6/2/2006 7:36:50 PM

the sherlock holmes episodes were some of the worst. any holodeck episode is crappy, and I agree with the thesis.

To be fair, I think they always implied that people were having mad holosex. There were plenty of times guys were running programs with hot chicks in bikinis in the show.

6/2/2006 7:42:52 PM

6/2/2006 8:38:02 PM

holaSKEETSKEET

6/2/2006 9:00:39 PM

those uniforms were not in use at the same time as TNG, they were just before TNG thus that cartoon is wrong

6/2/2006 9:42:47 PM

pwnt trek

6/3/2006 12:01:09 AM

^6

replicator tech too perhaps?

^2

actually that uni is 2 generations old... you have that one, then the slick skin one, then the ones with the collar

[Edited on June 3, 2006 at 12:12 AM. Reason : 3]

6/3/2006 12:11:12 AM

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"I'm pretty sure there was an episode where Quark tried to make a porno with the honkey half klingon girl, but then she h4xed it and put Quark's face on the body. "

Yeah, that was Major Kira (sp?). She's not half Klingon though, is she? She's just Bajuran.

6/3/2006 12:29:40 AM

^ correct

6/3/2006 12:51:11 AM

It's all facebumps to me.

6/3/2006 1:15:31 AM

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"I never understood how they were able to walk "beyond" the bounds of the actual room they were in. Like if there were holographically "outside" how could they move around without hitting the walls of the room?"

as has already been said, the ground they are on is moved under their feet, so their locations are fairly static...

it gets hairy when there is a big group of people in the holodeck, and they spread out... the way i imagine it happens is that each person gets their own "treadmill" and they have virtual holo-walls projected between them, so they just appear farther away from the other people than they really are.






now, the reason why people can appear wet, and why people can sometimes take items out of the holodeck (such as the piece of paper data carries out in the first sherlock holmes episode) is because the holodeck uses both holoprojection and force fields, as well as replication for items in the program that are likely to be handled by the users.

6/3/2006 1:41:23 AM

it all comes down to the math, and since that is what smath loves, he will figure this out

6/3/2006 1:44:19 AM

6/3/2006 2:00:06 AM

I've never heard replication mentioned in holodeck technology before

are you saying everything the character's touch is replicated?

6/3/2006 2:18:39 AM

http://home1.gte.net/longrj2/fluff/holodeck2.html

6/3/2006 4:12:03 AM

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"now, the reason why people can appear wet, and why people can sometimes take items out of the holodeck (such as the piece of paper data carries out in the first sherlock holmes episode) is because the holodeck uses both holoprojection and force fields, as well as replication for items in the program that are likely to be handled by the users."

wasn't the whole thing with this episode was that they were in the holodeck the whole time? Moriarty tricked them into thinking they were leaving the holodeck when they were still in the until then end?

6/3/2006 4:16:46 AM

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"I've never heard replication mentioned in holodeck technology before are you saying everything the character's touch is replicated?"

no, not everything. some things are created with holography, and force fields to simulate touch.






^^and no, that's in the second Moriarty episode.

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6/3/2006 4:32:33 AM

yeah, that's the second one...
i think it's the STar Trek: TNG Technical Manual where they try to solve the whole "being wet off hte holodeck" thign with replication...
which only partically works, because Moriarty threw a book off the holodeck, but then, that was after he'd trapped the captain, data, and barclay, so it disappearing might have been his mistake and should have been their first clue that something was up...

gawd i'm feeling dorky, but i've been unemployed for a few weeks and frankly, there's nothing else on on weekday afternoons...

6/3/2006 8:15:40 AM

riker had a romantic fling in the holodeck

geordi tried to get down and dirty with the scientist in the holodeck

6/3/2006 9:53:57 AM

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"so like could you fuck bitches with stds and not get the std?"

ha ha ha I agree that this is the worst idea ever

6/3/2006 10:11:23 AM

can you imagine what would happen if TV's malfunctioned as often as holodecks???



cue american sitting comfortably in his mobile home watching The Terminator:

"ah shit tammy, the damn safeties on the tube have been disablaaaah...gurgle... :falls to floor dead as bullets fly from the screen:"

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6/3/2006 3:32:37 PM

TVs probably DO malfunction as much as holodecks (probably more), it's just that the scope of things that could be messed up by a TV is much smaller.

I think it's kind of funny/odd though that they have accidentally created so many AIs in Star Trek that have emotions, but they still can't give Data emotions.

6/3/2006 3:55:19 PM

data does have emotions now.

well he did...

before he died.

6/3/2006 3:58:46 PM

who did Riker fuck in the holodeck?

I'm surprised since he seems to get laid on the ship at ease

6/3/2006 3:59:20 PM

Minuette... he didn't do her though... she was a chick in a holodeck program made to distract riker in the episode where the bynars took over the enterprise to borrow it's computer system to "reboot" their planet's computer that all of the Bynars were connected to.

6/3/2006 4:04:19 PM

When everyone went back to Sherwood Forest in one of the Q episodes, were they in the Holodeck or did Q transport them to Sherwood Forest?

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"before he died."

You mean, "died" with quotation marks

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6/4/2006 11:36:04 AM

they were in some sort of fantasy world Q created, not a holodeck.



and data really died. there is more than one way they could bring him back, yes, but i don't think they will...

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6/4/2006 11:43:59 AM

Smath you are a huge nerd

6/4/2006 2:01:30 PM

Am I a real person?

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