So I've been sitting here watching it for the second time in my life on A&E. Wild, good movie.

Jack Torrence has always been at the Overlook, always been the caretaker. Yet the caretaker in the newspaper was named Delbert whatever. (the Brittish waiter he talks to in the bathroom)

So is the brittish waiter his evil side? A manifestation of the Overlook? The work of the indian burial ground the Overlook is buried on? The guy suggests that Jack 'correct' his wife and son.

Somehow I think that Jack Torrence was drawn to the Overlook because he is the reincarnaion of the old caretaker who killed his wife and two daughters.

What's the deal with the chick in room 237?

I tried googling interpretations, and found TMI.

6/10/2006 2:13:19 AM

i read the book in college & it gives a LOT more details that may help for the movie....

Jack Torrence was a recovering alcoholic (he was an English teacher at a high school & assaulted a student - so he had problems w/ drinking & then becoming very agressive) & we see he "fell off the wagon" at the Overlook hotel...

My opinion is that he hallucinated a lot of what we see that seems off, like the girl in the bathtub, the bartender, the twins, (all are ghosts from what went down @ the Overlook Hotel in the past, the guests whom stayed there).

The boiler room was a MUCH bigger deal in the book too & the movie really didn't dwell on this i don't remember too much... I think the boiler room represented Jack's sanity & how it was about to "explode" so to say (b/c of his alcoholism)...

This is all based on my memory of stuff from college so if others point out i'm wrong on some stuff - i'm not going to argue with them....

[Edited on June 10, 2006 at 2:25 AM. Reason : john - try googling for info about the book itself]

[Edited on June 10, 2006 at 2:26 AM. Reason : the bartender was the father of the twin girls too fyi]

6/10/2006 2:25:17 AM

also - check out the imdb message board - it tends to have good interpretations....

http://imdb.com/title/tt0081505/board/threads/

you'll have to register but it's 100% free

6/10/2006 2:29:31 AM

I haven't read the book. Just watched the movie. I am sure they are quite different.

6/10/2006 2:31:35 AM

yea they are apparently & it confuses my memory mixing the 2...

forget the imdb site

here's a good one...

http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/faq/html/shining/shining.html

http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/faq/html/shining/shining2.html

apprently Kubrick did what he wished w/ King's story so ignore my comments about the book:

Quote :

"Recently it has emerged that King used to be an alcoholic, and that parts of The Shining are, if not autobiographical, then very personal for the author. King was annoyed because Kubrick's adaptation, in his eyes, marginalised the book's most important theme, that of an good father can be turned into a monster through alcohol abuse. "

[Edited on June 10, 2006 at 2:39 AM. Reason : esp. read PART 2]

6/10/2006 2:35:29 AM

Yea, knowing that it was a Kubrick film before I saw it I went into it expecting it to be significantly different than the book.

I need to learn how to read so I can understand King's version.

6/10/2006 2:40:44 AM

haha - i have the book if you want to borrow it - i only read it b/c it was required of an English class...

i couldn't put the book down & that says a LOT coming from me

King did a made-for-tv version of The Shining based on his book to a tee..... it'll come on again i'm sure

[Edited on June 10, 2006 at 2:43 AM. Reason : a]

6/10/2006 2:42:52 AM

The made for TV version got pretty bad IMDB reviews.

6/10/2006 3:02:44 AM

of course it did, it was a made-for-tv king movie.... they are hit or miss..

the best one = The STand imo...

the tv version was atleast closely based on the book but no Kubrick directed it so it fails on that level

6/10/2006 3:09:05 AM

The Stand actually kicked ass. I always felt bad for the firebug guy though

6/10/2006 3:22:27 AM

god i loved The Stand - i remember talkiong about it the next day in high school....

don't fear the reaper grabbed me into that movie & part 2 rocked even more... 3 & 4 were just ok but still great miniseries!

6/10/2006 3:24:24 AM

I really liked the TV version of It.

6/10/2006 3:35:52 AM

haha you need to watch "The Stoned Age"
Absolutely as stupid as "dude where's my car", but just so fucking funny

6/10/2006 3:36:05 AM

i remember that movie - didn't it have Don't fear the reaper in it?

6/10/2006 3:40:01 AM

Yeah, that's what made me think about it.

And the Big Gnarly Eye

6/10/2006 3:50:48 AM

i hardly remember that movie, 1 nite on hbo i must've sat thru it & that song stuck out

6/10/2006 3:52:06 AM

It just started on A&E.

7/28/2006 8:08:30 PM

Man, it creeped me out when I first saw it.

And yeah, I also appreciated that the TV version was much more in line with the book. But something about Kubrick and Nicholson is so crazily awesome in this version.

7/28/2006 8:18:25 PM

It creeped me out as a kid. It creeped me out even more as a teenager when I saw that hot naked chick turn into a corpse.

7/28/2006 8:27:34 PM

It's all the kid, he makes jack see the shit and kill the people, you look at it from that perspective and the movie makes alot more jack!

7/29/2006 2:17:31 AM

yo that part in the movie where you see all the pages have the same phrase typed on them, man that shit was when it got real

7/29/2006 3:26:17 AM

you know the guy that typed all those pages was pissed as fuck when he found out what that "special" job kubrick needed him was for.

7/29/2006 3:34:17 AM