NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I'll get the link in a second
[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 12:20 PM. Reason : the link from Drudge is probably overloaded right now..] 6/12/2006 12:19:54 PM |
panthersny All American 9550 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribunereview/s_457685.html
video
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9356067/detail.html#
[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 12:24 PM. Reason : ] 6/12/2006 12:22:36 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
sweet
i hate the steelers 6/12/2006 12:24:10 PM |
GiZZ All American 6982 Posts user info edit post |
heard rumor this could be fake? 6/12/2006 12:26:15 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
i hope hes ok, but good lord, you think atheletes would know not to ride motorcycles....especially without a helmet.
[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 12:27 PM. Reason : df] 6/12/2006 12:26:40 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
damn, sounds pretty serious. time for cowher to expedite his retirement. 6/12/2006 12:27:08 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
^^yea i know, if i was making that much money, i could wait a few years to ride my bike. 6/12/2006 12:27:52 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
cnn just talked about it
sports franchises need to ban motorcycles 6/12/2006 12:28:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
Kellen Winslowsberger Jr. 6/12/2006 12:30:00 PM |
twolfpack3 All American 2573 Posts user info edit post |
Sports franchises pretty much do ban motorcycles.
See Jason Williams & Kellen Winslow.
[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 12:31 PM. Reason : ] 6/12/2006 12:31:24 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "sports franchises need to ban motorcycles" |
if im not mistaken, some players contracts have clauses that prevent them from riding motorcycles.
for some reason, i remember this being brought up with ben before..when he was first drafted and the media caught wind of him riding right after the winslow accident....and we played the "its a free country, i can do what i want" card.
[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 12:33 PM. Reason : er]6/12/2006 12:32:43 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
holy shit... that really sucks. 6/12/2006 12:33:42 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
^^Winslow's contract included a clause for bikes and as a result he got a small percentage of his contract the year he was injured from his bike accident 6/12/2006 12:37:50 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
i actually hope he's okay
he's a complete moron for not wearing a helmet though 6/12/2006 12:40:15 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck 6/12/2006 12:40:23 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
yeah it should pretty much be in any contract for sports, if you get hurt outside of the sport doing anything unnecessarily dangerous, your contract is at that point void. 6/12/2006 12:40:40 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
there evidently was a huge controversy over it earlier last month when pictures sufaced of him not wearing a helmet.
Quote : | "Terry Bradshaw quarterbacked the Steelers to four Super Bowl victories.
He has some advice for the guy who hopes to win Number 5.
"Park the motorcycle!"
Video Bradshaw Terry Talks Tough To Big Ben
Defying coach Bill Cowher's wishes and ignoring the potential dangers, quarterback -- and helmetless motorcycle rider -- Ben Roethlisberger said last week that he isn't giving up his beloved bike.
Bradshaw, at a charity golf tournament Monday, told Channel 4 Action Sports that Big Ben needs to change his mind -- especially in light of a recent bike-related injury that may cost Cleveland tight end Kellen Winslow his 2005 season.
"Ben, you're starting to make me think you're not that smart," said Bradshaw, looking directly into a camera and pointing his index finger. "Did you not see what that idiot in Cleveland did? You're cool enough without it (the bike). Wait until you're 33, 34. Ride the sucker all you want then."
As the interview ended, Bradshaw walked off, muttering, "I can't believe he's riding that motorcycle. Stupidest thing I ever heard of."
Bradshaw speaks from experience. As a young quarterback, he was told by team owner Dan Rooney to keep his Corvette off the road and in the garage -- and he says he obeyed.
If Roethlisberger's willing to listen to reason, Bradshaw thinks he'll do the same.
"They (Roethlisberger and Cowher) have one thing in common, and that's winning," he said. "As long as you have the same objective, the same passion, you'll work those other things out. Chuck (Noll, the Steelers' former coach) and I did."" |
what a dumb fucking retard. I take back all the nice things I said about him. What a supid goddam motherfucking idiot.6/12/2006 12:43:33 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
espn is reporting the injuries are non-life threatening.
based on past motorcycle crashes though (jay williams, bobby hurley, etc) i don't see him playing again for at least this season. god damnit.
^that was may of last year.
[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 12:44 PM. Reason : ] 6/12/2006 12:43:57 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
eyewitness accounts report that he tried to get up and walk but was bleeding from the head... maybe he'll be alright. he's a dumbass, that's for sure.
^ ah didn't catch that. he's still a dumb motherfucker
[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 12:46 PM. Reason : yep, still a motherfucker] 6/12/2006 12:45:22 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
yeah they said he was thrown from the bike and hit his head on the windshield of the car. was concious but disoriented. (espn article)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830
here's a dif article: http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
Quote : | "ROETHLISBERGER IN "PRETTY BAD" MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT
The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reports that Steelers quarterback Ben Roetlisberger has been injured in a motorcycle accident near the 10th Street Bridge in Pittsburgh.
(As of 12:10 p.m. EDT, the Tribune-Review's web site had crashed, apparently due to the enormous spike in traffic.)
The accident occurred at 11:37 a.m. He was not wearing a helmet. A veteran police officer has told WTAE-TV that the accident was "pretty bad."
Per WTAE, Roethlisberger has been taken to the trauma unit at Mercy Hospital in Pittsburgh. There are no specifics as to his condition.
A witness to the aftermath of the accident told WTAE at 12:11 p.m. that Roethlisberger was alert and talking to paramedics, but there was "blood everywhere." The witness also said that Roethlisberger was wearing a neck collar. As of 12:17 p.m., neither the Mercy Hospital officials nor the team would divulge any details.
Another witness told WTAE that Roethlisberger "T-boned" a vehicle, struck the windshield, rolled onto the ground and struck his head on the pavement. His eyes were open but he was very confused and disoriented. He said that he was "okay" and tried to get up.
Roethlisberger was criticized in 2005 for not wearing a helmet, which was revealed after Browns tight end Kellen Winslow wrecked his crotch rocket and suffered a torn ACL and internal injuries.
Said Roethlisberger at the time: "I'm pretty conservative and laid back. I'll just continue to be careful. [W]e always ride in a group of people, and I think it makes it even more safe."
There's no indication that Roethlisberger was riding in a group on Monday morning.
Stay tuned." |
[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 12:55 PM. Reason : ]6/12/2006 12:46:52 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yeah it should pretty much be in any contract for sports, if you get hurt outside of the sport doing anything unnecessarily dangerous, your contract is at that point void." |
i'm pretty sure i can think of a half dozen teams that would pick a big ben contract, even if he is sidelined for a season
and big ben, unless they changed it, had no clause in his contract like this
i remember reading that when the MOTHERFUCKING SOLDIER went down on a bike
big ben was like "i just didn't tell anybody that i like to ride"6/12/2006 12:58:01 PM |
Ihatespida All American 7520 Posts user info edit post |
GREAT.....MAYBE NOW I CAN GET TICKETS THIS YEAR 6/12/2006 1:10:49 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
hopefully he'll be back by 12/17, so we can beat up on them w/o hearing excuses. 6/12/2006 1:17:22 PM |
Ihatespida All American 7520 Posts user info edit post |
WHO IS LINED UP FOR 12/17 6/12/2006 1:25:09 PM |
BigPapa All American 4727 Posts user info edit post |
I highly doubt it 6/12/2006 1:25:44 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
PANTHERS! I'm sure the cats will win w/ or w/o ben there, i just don't want to hear "well, if big ben wasn't hurt........" 6/12/2006 1:26:58 PM |
SipnOnSyzurp All American 8923 Posts user info edit post |
ahahahaha
what a dumb fuck
time to call my steeler fans and talk nonsense 6/12/2006 1:29:45 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
so he plays football with a helmet but won't go 70 mph on a bike with one
makes sense 6/12/2006 1:31:33 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
^^^yeah bullshit, like you wouldn't talk about not having steve smith or jake delhomme.
ben is in surgery right now. sounds like a possible broken jaw, surgery could be to wire it shut maybe.
hospital is reporting that he's in serious but stable condition.
[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 1:50 PM. Reason : ] 6/12/2006 1:34:07 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
if its only a broken jaw, steelers should consider themselves lucky. I hope he's back by Dec. I've been looking forward to beating the champs since the schedule came out, but beating them w/o him wouldn't be as satisfying. 6/12/2006 2:03:15 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so he plays football with a helmet but won't go 70 mph on a bike with one
makes sense" |
i was just about to post that
i thought about it at lunch...
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watch him pull some kanye west shit and play with his hambones wired shut
[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 2:24 PM. Reason : I MUSSA DIED IN THAT AX-I-DENT]6/12/2006 2:23:48 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Just heard on the radio that he had "a broken jaw, missing teeth and other serious facial injuries", but its not life threatening. bad for him but good for fans, he doesn't need to be pretty to play. 6/12/2006 2:30:38 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "POSTED 2:28 p.m. EDT, June 12, 2006
BIG BEN GETS "VERY LUCKY"
A league source tells us that Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has suffered a broken jaw and various "minor scratches" as a result of his Monday morning motorcycle accident. But, at this point, the team does not believe that he has suffered any serious injuries to body parts that would be used in the playing of football.
"He will have to be thoroughly checked but at this time he looks to be very lucky," said a league source with knowledge of the situation.
We can't fathom Big Ben emerging from the collision without a single arm, hand, elbow, shoulder, leg, knee, hip, ankle, or foot injury that would impact his ability to prepare for and/or play in the 2006 season. The pictures suggest a very serious collision between Roethlisberger's motorcycle and a car. In 2005, for example, concerns regarding the internal injuries suffered by Browns tight end Kellen Winslow when he merely wrecked his motorcycle into a curb quickly gave way to a swollen knee that ultimately was found to have a torn ACL embedded therein.
And if for some reason Roethlisberger couldn't play this year, what would the Steelers do? Make Charlie Batch the starter? Re-sign Tommy Maddox? Bring in Kerry Collins?
Or -- gulp -- bring back Kordell Stewart?
The options would limited, given that the incident happened so late in the offseason. But, for now, it appears that he'll be ready to go after his jaw is healed." |
just read this post on a steelers board, sounds worse:
Quote : | "Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is in serious but stable condition and in surgery this afternoon following a serious head injury this morning after his motorcycle collided with a car on Second Avenue near the 10th Street Bridge, police said. Roethlisberger lost most of his teeth, fractured his left sinus cavity bone, suffered a nine-inch laceration to the back of his head and a broken jaw, and severely injured both of his knees when he hit the ground, police said. 2:34 pm" |
[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 2:51 PM. Reason : ]6/12/2006 2:45:02 PM |
PvtJoker All American 15000 Posts user info edit post |
hahahahah holy shit that dumb fuck lost most of his teeth??!??!??!
[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 2:53 PM. Reason : this thread is useless without pics] 6/12/2006 2:52:45 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
hmmmm
most of his teeth are gone and his face is disfigured
HE FINALLY FITS IN IN PITTSBURGH!!!! 6/12/2006 3:00:03 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
what a fucking moron 6/12/2006 3:00:43 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
6/12/2006 3:01:01 PM |
Docido All American 4642 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But, at this point, the team does not believe that he has suffered any serious injuries to body parts that would be used in the playing of football" |
He doesn't need his brain to play. Its also evident that he didn't have one anyway when he decided to ride without a helmet.6/12/2006 3:01:03 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
of course its some crotch rocket
way to go you fucking idiot 6/12/2006 3:03:07 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
i dont think it's a question on whether or not he should wear a helmet. it should be whether or not he rides a motorcycle. even wearing a helmet this accident would have been potentially fatal. riding with a helmet is dangerous as well, and i don't think he should be allowed to ride at all.
assuming he comes back from this, i doubt cowher/rooney will allow him to continue riding. he really doesn't have a case against them anymore now, and maybe he'll wise up and agree.
and if the reports about severe injuries to both knees are accurate, then his season and maybe career are indeed in danger of being over. i guess it depends on what "severe" means in this case.
[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 3:04 PM. Reason : ] 6/12/2006 3:03:39 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05163/520196.stm 6/12/2006 3:05:31 PM |
sajo20 Veteran 377 Posts user info edit post |
i'll preface this by saying i think he should have been wearing a helmet, because i live by the "better safe than sorry" rule, but:
1) there is no law in Pittsburgh saying he has to wear a helmet
2) he has no specific clause in his contract saying he is not allowed to ride a motorcycle
3) cowher never told him he shouldn't ride, just to be safe
i'm sure plenty of you guys on here do things you shouldn't do (whether legal or not) just because you like doing it. if he enjoys riding a bike (even if it is without a helmet) and it's all on the up and up...he's really not doing anything wrong. yeah he's being risky, but we all are to some degree. i don't know how necessary all this flack is. obviously he didn't want this to happen, and now that is has (and i hope everything turns out ok) i'm sure he'll take some new precautions. 6/12/2006 3:15:25 PM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
^^prophetic and a year to the day old. 6/12/2006 3:19:57 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
cowher told him he didn't like him riding. obviously to keep the peace he wasn't any more forceful than that, but you can be sure that won't be the case anymore.
and just for the record. cowhers oldest daughter used to get a ride to school (princeton) on the back of a motorcycle, but after all the stuff with winslow and other injuries came out, and the roethlisberger discussion, he forbid his daughter to continue this.
so you can see where he stands. 6/12/2006 3:20:05 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
most nfl coaches dont even want their players playing basketball
"anything you do physical better have something to do with football" is the mentality of most of them] 6/12/2006 3:21:14 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "of course its some crotch rocket
way to go you fucking idiot" |
what does it being a crotch rocket have to do with it
big ben also has harleys
would you have said
"of course its some harley" if he had happened to be on one of those today?
and the funniest outside-the-lines injury is still fucking aaron boone tearing his knee playing basketball...dumbass
what was the one at the cookout? i can't remember the details, but i know espn always mentions it when something like this happens6/12/2006 3:25:06 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
crotch rockets are faster than harleys
sure you can wreck on either one
but i mean, crotch rockets are inherently more dangerous 6/12/2006 3:27:23 PM |
sajo20 Veteran 377 Posts user info edit post |
^^^right, but they obviously don't prohibit them from doing so. ben has said in interviews that he does it because it relaxes him. the accident was in downtown pittsburgh, not out on some country road where he was going 100 mph and popping wheelies. nobody really knows the details of what happened, so what if it was just a simple traffic violation gone bad?
my point is that it doesn't seem like he was acting irresponsibly by riding a motorcycle. my guess is that more athletes act irresponsibly when driving their cars then he probably did on his bike. it's just unfortunate that this happened.
[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 3:29 PM. Reason : add]
[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 3:31 PM. Reason : fix] 6/12/2006 3:29:07 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
winslow fucked up his ACL in a parking lot
bikes are dangerous if you dont know what you're doing 6/12/2006 3:31:21 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "my point is that it doesn't seem like he was acting irresponsibly by riding a motorcycle" |
which is all the more reason he shouldn't be on one. If he can get that hurt being responsible, he has no business on one, with his obligations.6/12/2006 3:31:48 PM |