jlancas03 All American 9645 Posts user info edit post |
anyone had experiences wth them? 6/21/2006 10:45:59 AM |
joe17669 All American 22728 Posts user info edit post |
the programmable ones? i have one at my place. i tried using it based on my schedule, but i constantly found myself making slight changes to it. so basically i just keep it on HOLD and adjust the temperature manually] 6/21/2006 10:47:08 AM |
scrager All American 9481 Posts user info edit post |
you mean a programmable thermostat?
i have a 5+2 (mon-fri, sat-sun) thermostat that allows 4 temps per day (morning, work, home, bed) 6/21/2006 10:47:29 AM |
Natalie0628 All American 1228 Posts user info edit post |
We have one in our house too, it works pretty well. Doesn't come one when we're all at work/school and is programmed to start again right before we come home. Has saved a lot of money, and it's nice not to come home to a sweltering/freezing house, but rather a perfect one. 6/21/2006 10:48:57 AM |
jlancas03 All American 9645 Posts user info edit post |
yeah... each day is programmable, but it's set in the 5-2 format
I just installed one, was wondering what to expect in terms of savings..
[Edited on June 21, 2006 at 10:52 AM. Reason : and I agree the first night was warm with the "night" setting, I'll prolly want to adjust that lower] 6/21/2006 10:49:07 AM |
Natalie0628 All American 1228 Posts user info edit post |
I can ask my pops if you're interested, but I am sure it would be pretty different - what kind of house do you live in? 6/21/2006 10:51:24 AM |
jlancas03 All American 9645 Posts user info edit post |
I live in a townhome 6/21/2006 10:53:03 AM |
Natalie0628 All American 1228 Posts user info edit post |
I'll ask him what kind of monthly bill difference it is in our house for ya and I guess you can..differentiate from there. 6/21/2006 11:03:14 AM |
scrager All American 9481 Posts user info edit post |
it depends on the efficiency of your ac, your insulation, and your temp differences.
basically, you don't want to turn it off completely during the day, just like a 3-5 degree difference will give you the best savings. otherwise the house will warm up too much and the AC will have to work harder and longer to bring it back to a comfortable level
i have mine set to 70 when i'm there and 75 when i'm not there and like 72 at night. i think i need to play around with it some more though. 6/21/2006 11:03:23 AM |
joe17669 All American 22728 Posts user info edit post |
my schedule is too irregular for me to keep comfortable with the program. I like to keep my place cool, so I usually just keep it on 70 the whole time. Power bills aren't unreasonable for where I live. What makes my place inefficient is living on a high floor of an all-glass building in a condo that faces south/southwest 6/21/2006 11:10:21 AM |
jlancas03 All American 9645 Posts user info edit post |
I have a feeling it'll save a lit more on the gas bill than it will with the AC 6/21/2006 11:58:21 AM |
1CYPHER Suspended 1513 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "basically, you don't want to turn it off completely during the day, just like a 3-5 degree difference will give you the best savings. otherwise the house will warm up too much and the AC will have to work harder and longer to bring it back to a comfortable level" |
I've contemplated this before, and this implies some non-linear change in temperature and non-linear effects with the cooling system, and somehow I find this a bit hard to believe.6/21/2006 1:42:39 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
make sure not to cut the ac down too much when your at work..and when I say down I mean as in off, not cooler
because when you get home, if you cut your ac off while at work, your ac will work harder trying to catch up to the temp you want. 6/21/2006 1:47:20 PM |
scrager All American 9481 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I've contemplated this before, and this implies some non-linear change in temperature and non-linear effects with the cooling system, and somehow I find this a bit hard to believe. " |
it's more of a differential and comfort thing. lets say you leave for work at 7 and turn off the furnace. in the 9 hours you are gone, the temp rises 15 degrees. if you turn the ac back on at 5, you'll be hot for several hours until the house cools down again.
of course you could figure out the time you'll need to get back to 70 and have the ac turn on that many hours before you get home, however this will be dependant on outside temps since the inside temp will rise faster if it is hotter outside and take longer to cool down if it is hotter inside before you start cooling.
so for simplicity, efficiency, and comfort you should only drop the temp a few degrees so that it doesn't take long to cool back to comfort level and also so that it won't be so unbearable when you get home.
another thing you might consider is that an ac unit does not run constantly so if it takes say 3 hours to recool your house from being off after 5 hours, would the unit have been on for a total of 3 hours in that time with a slightly lower temp? i'm sure you could figure it out eventually, but it would be different for every house, for every inside temp, and for every outside temp6/21/2006 2:51:06 PM |
Pyro Suspended 4836 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " if you cut your ac off while at work, your ac will work harder trying to catch up to the temp you want. " |
Not if you set it at a reasonable 80-85 when you get home. This doesn't apply to you fatties that can't stand it hotter than 70.6/21/2006 3:02:14 PM |
Seotaji All American 34244 Posts user info edit post |
^
yeah, i like it rather warm, so i leave it at 76. cooler if i have company.
this has saved lots of $. 6/21/2006 3:25:36 PM |
hammster All American 2768 Posts user info edit post |
we didn't use our heat or anything all winter and finally turned the AC on to 80. It is comfortable and barely changed our bill. Just do that. 6/21/2006 7:05:35 PM |
Clevelander All American 4640 Posts user info edit post |
I've found that mid 70's is perfect now that it's 90 outside.
Sorta interested in the next power bill. Just as long as it's not as high as my gas bill during Jan and Feb then I'm good 6/21/2006 8:05:42 PM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
we have one and the thing seems to have a mind of its own. at random times it will stop following hte program and say that all of the settings have changed to the same temperature, and not what I set it to. pressing the temporary setting and letting it sit like that for a few minutes then running the program seems to fix the problem. 6/21/2006 10:24:42 PM |
MiniMe_877 All American 4414 Posts user info edit post |
what brands do you guys have? The only name brand I know of is Honeywell 6/21/2006 10:46:40 PM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
dat b what mine is 6/21/2006 10:51:15 PM |
scrager All American 9481 Posts user info edit post |
hondaguy: maybe your batteries are getting low?
i have a honeywell also. it was super easy to install. 6/22/2006 9:43:46 AM |
DeputyDog All American 2059 Posts user info edit post |
Are they easy to install??? how are they normally attached to the wall? do they just slide up and out or something????? Im interested in changin mine to a programable one. IVe pulled on it a few times with no success. Im worried about ripping the damn off the wall 6/22/2006 3:34:28 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
its pretty easy
it should be screwed to the wall
and the wiring is a snap if you have done any electrical ever 6/22/2006 3:41:18 PM |
esgargs Suspended 97470 Posts user info edit post |
yeah
basically a wall thermostat is nothing more than an on-off switch
well 2 switches. 6/22/2006 3:42:24 PM |