travis3ncsu All American 1686 Posts user info edit post |
how bad would it be to pull a 19 or 21' C/C with a 4 cylinder tacoma (4wd and 5 spd).
im prolly gonna do it no matter what im just wondrin if any of yall with the 4 cyl pull anything close to this weight and how long u think my clutch will last. 6/25/2006 10:06:59 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
enjoy... you'll piss everyone off going up hills i know that... i know behind a 5.0 powered f-150 it didn't like a 20' bowrider. it was do-able but it def slowed down on hills.
[Edited on June 25, 2006 at 10:09 PM. Reason : .] 6/25/2006 10:08:55 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Is the truck rated for a boat that heavy? Speaking from experience, it really sucks when you try to stop and the truck just keeps moving. 6/25/2006 10:12:09 PM |
travis3ncsu All American 1686 Posts user info edit post |
theres no hills around here so thats not a problem. i dont see it bein a problem really around here, only thing is itll be slow acceleration. its just how hard is it gonna be on the truck.
yea i dont fel like lookin to see what the trucks rated for. if braking is that bad(which i know it will be bad) i might put a brake box on my truck or something.
[Edited on June 25, 2006 at 10:14 PM. Reason : ] 6/25/2006 10:13:35 PM |
1CYPHER Suspended 1513 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "theres no hills around here so thats not a problem" |
This might not be the mountains, but you best believe there are enough hills to wilt a boat pulling 4 banger.6/25/2006 10:17:24 PM |
travis3ncsu All American 1686 Posts user info edit post |
ok a 21' Parker weighs in at around 2500 lbs and towing capacity of the new tacomas with the same motor is 3500 so i think itll be fine. 6/25/2006 10:20:43 PM |
underPSI tillerman 14085 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, and i don't think you are just planning on pulling it around, either. you have to put it in the water eventually and that's where the lil' taco just wished it could. 6/25/2006 10:20:46 PM |
Speedsta800 All American 683 Posts user info edit post |
its gonna be a bitch and your clutch is going to hate you for it.
the real issue to consider is pulling the boat out of the water after youve trailored(sp?) it, of course its only an issue if youre going to put said boat in the water.
^beat me to it
[Edited on June 25, 2006 at 10:22 PM. Reason : fack] 6/25/2006 10:22:01 PM |
travis3ncsu All American 1686 Posts user info edit post |
ah 4-lo can fix that. ive pulled 17' boats out before in 2wd no problem. i think yall underestimate the taco.
[Edited on June 25, 2006 at 10:23 PM. Reason : ] 6/25/2006 10:23:23 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
Oh I think you can do it, but you need to be careful, especially coming to a stop. And make sure your tongue weight does NOT exceed maximum.
You're right about 4-low on the ramps. Works great.
Have you factored in the trailer's weight as well? Sure the boat might weigh in at 2500 lbs, but that trailer is usually at least 800 more.
One thing that bothers me about towing that kind of weight behind yer truck on a regular basis and/or for long distances is wear on the transmission. I would run a damn good synthetic lube in the tranny and the transfer case. 6/25/2006 10:41:13 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
my old wrangler had a hitch on the front i used to put boats in all the time in 4 low with would have been better if it had a center diff but it was really easy to control larger boats going into the smaller launch ramp.
+ it made me some $$$ 6/25/2006 11:19:50 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if braking is that bad(which i know it will be bad) i might put a brake box on my truck or something." |
I was talking more about the tires locking up than the brakes not having enough power. Maybe it wouldn't be a problem on dry roads, but going over weight in the wet is much worse than most people know. I'd hate to go into an emergency brake with a trailer that's too heavy even if it was dry. Plus, if you wreck that thing you're going to be fucked proper with the police/insurance.
It's not that hard to check your towing capacity.6/26/2006 12:16:30 AM |
underPSI tillerman 14085 Posts user info edit post |
just wait till you're on a flat stretch of road and a stiff breeze blows you off the side of the road. 6/26/2006 9:48:53 AM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
Now that is a good point.
And it really isn't fun to have your trailer push you through an intersection, or even worse, jacknife on you... 6/26/2006 9:56:06 AM |
1234chs All American 2574 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Have you factored in the trailer's weight as well? Sure the boat might weigh in at 2500 lbs, but that trailer is usually at least 800 more. " |
On top of that, the 2500 lbs is the boat "dry"...add feul wieght, fishing gear, electronics, mayb more for what outboard, etc.6/26/2006 10:42:46 AM |
underPSI tillerman 14085 Posts user info edit post |
point being, yes, your truck can and will pull the boat, probably without difficulty unless on steep grades and boat ramps. we aren't saying your truck is weak or not capable. you just need to be careful. since the boat is wider than your truck, it will push it around, easily. it will put a lot of excess strain on your drivetrain so expect reduced clutch life. fortunately you do have a manual so you don't have to worry about burning up the auto tranny since heat is the number one killer of automatics. drive like you have some sense and you shouldn't have any issues. however, if you think towing this boat will become a regular event (weekly, once a month or so and you should be fine), i would suggest considering an upgrade to a fullsize. 6/26/2006 10:54:19 AM |
Houston All American 2269 Posts user info edit post |
point being he doesnt really give a shit about what anyone thinks as he indicated in the first post, this is a big waste of time. 6/26/2006 1:10:03 PM |
Kickstand All American 11597 Posts user info edit post |
I have seen a 22RE auto. pull a 4wd 4 cyl. Tacoma on a tow dolly. Just be careful like people have been saying and you will be fine. 6/26/2006 5:54:45 PM |
travis3ncsu All American 1686 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "just wait till you're on a flat stretch of road and a stiff breeze blows you off the side of the road.
" |
shit that happens now
yea ill be pullin it every weekend once i get it. ill get a fullsize soon enough but id rather have a boat first and a reliable truck. i dont drive like a retard when im pullin shit. i know the yota aint made for it but like psi said itll be ok for awhile. if not ill get an old beater fullsize.6/26/2006 11:00:56 PM |
slut All American 8357 Posts user info edit post |
yea, it'll be ok for a while. until you cause a terrible accident. 6/27/2006 1:21:59 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
and kill a family. 6/27/2006 1:55:06 AM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
CHILD KILLER 6/27/2006 2:29:59 AM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
hell, pullin a 19' bayliner behind my full size silverado makes it noticably harder to stop without trailer brakes, i can't imagine how bad it would be behind yours, its all well and good when you can anticipate a stop, but you might as well forget about trying to brake in an emergency, and i hope you are using a load distributing hitch, and not a step bumper, that is if you have grown fond of your bumper being on the truck and not rolling down the highway in the other lane atached to your trailer 6/27/2006 10:12:36 AM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
just imagine going down the outer beltline with it and getting off at western and going towards campus. you would have to start braking at the exit to go towards cary. 6/27/2006 1:23:35 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
so install some trailer brakes and youll be decent 6/27/2006 1:31:58 PM |
underPSI tillerman 14085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and i hope you are using a load distributing hitch, and not a step bumper, that is if you have grown fond of your bumper being on the truck and not rolling down the highway in the other lane atached to your trailer" |
yeah, you're right about the bumper but you do know that a receiver hitch (which i think you are referring to) is different from a weight-distributing hitch.6/27/2006 9:16:44 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
^yes, a regular receiver hitch is gonna put damn near as much stress on the ends of the frame rails as pulling it with the bumper, and makes it just as shitty to handle on the highway 6/28/2006 8:38:15 AM |
NCSULilWolf All American 1707 Posts user info edit post |
I had to go here, whatever you do... don't do it like this (if the pics don't work just look in my gallery)
[Edited on June 28, 2006 at 3:09 PM. Reason : pics?] 6/28/2006 2:59:09 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
link to the actual picture - and not the page the pictures are on... 6/28/2006 3:07:29 PM |
NCSULilWolf All American 1707 Posts user info edit post |
^ you my friend, are my new favorite person
(and what really kills me, is I used to know how to do that and just freakin' forgot... case in point, I asked my roommate yesterday why pictures weren't showing up on my webpage... uhh I forgot to copy the additional file folders ) 6/28/2006 3:10:23 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
I love disc brakes on trailers 6/28/2006 4:04:19 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Brakes on trailers sounds too high falootin' for me. 6/28/2006 4:20:16 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
what i saw on 401 today is a good reason not to pull a big trailer behing a small truck, trailer in opposite direction of traffic on it's side, truck upside down in the median, nuff said 6/29/2006 5:27:37 PM |
goFigure All American 1583 Posts user info edit post |
the engine size is only part of the deal... Like everyone else said... Stopping it is the hard part...
The biggest bennifit of a half ton is the stopping power of 4wheel disk brakes...
however my 5.4L engine doesn't have problems with hills...
it also happens to be for sale for $11k
[Edited on June 29, 2006 at 6:15 PM. Reason : picture... ] 6/29/2006 6:14:26 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "slut All American 6560 Posts user info edit post block user
yea, it'll be ok for a while. until you cause a terrible accident.
6/27/2006 1:21:59 AM Skack All American 10121 Posts user info edit post block user
and kill a family.
6/27/2006 1:55:06 AM zxappeal MAH ASS IS ITCHIN 12272 Posts user info edit post block user
CHILD KILLER
6/27/2006 2:29:59 AM" |
fucking quality6/29/2006 7:47:54 PM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
I'll pull it anytime you want as long as I get a spot on the boat
[Edited on June 29, 2006 at 10:05 PM. Reason : I pull a trailer almost everyday ] 6/29/2006 10:05:11 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
my rams brakes suck i wouldnt try to tow shit with it. 6/29/2006 10:24:50 PM |
shevais All American 1999 Posts user info edit post |
NC actually has one of the higher weight limits before you have to have trailer brakes, it's 4000 lbs, alot of other states require it at 2000 lbs...
that being said my boat's dry weight is 2580 lbs, with 35 gallons of gas that's another 217 lbs.. trailer is probably 500 lbs... add cooler, and other crap... say another 200 lbs so we're up to about 3500 lbs my explorer v-8 had a tough time pulling it, and an even tougher time stopping it
my 2500HD on the other hand pulls it like it's not even there and with the duramax/allison in the tow/haul mode and i rarely have to even hit the brakes to stop if I have enough room.... and when I do have to get on the brakes it stops fine.... I know it's overkill... but the safety margin is there and that's what I was looking for.
I would say if you are going to be towing it every weekend I would AT LEAST buy a 1/2 ton with a towing package... 6/29/2006 10:34:10 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
go for it 6/29/2006 10:35:43 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
No. THIS is quality:
Quote : | "MAH ASS IS ITCHIN" |
6/29/2006 11:46:22 PM |