http://www.sonyclassics.com/americanhardcore/

7/7/2006 7:58:48 PM

some of the people involved made me laugh

I saw Phil Anselmo towards the top then I got to Moby and then Hank Williams III

nice mix of people, looks like something to check out

Frank Agnew
Jonathan Anastas
Phil Anselmo
George Anthony
Mark Arm
Brian Baker
Al Barile
Nancy Barile
Dicky Barrett
Vic Bondi
Greta Brinkman
Dez Cadena
Tony Cadena
Joe Carducci
Curtis Casella
Edward Colver
Anthony Countey
Brandon Cruz
Mike Dean
Steve DePace
Dave Dictor
Chris Doherty
Christine Elise
Ted Falconi
Dante Ferrando
Jack Flanagan
Flea
Chris Foley
Kimm Gardner
Jimmy Gestapo
Greg Ginn
Alex Gonzalez
Jack Grisham
Brett Gurewitz
Greg Hetson
Ken Inouye
Darryl Jenifer
John Joseph
Joe Keithley
Dan Kubinski
Lucky Lehrer
Bruce Loose
Alec MacKaye
Ian MacKaye
Paul Mahern
Jesse Malin
Dave Markey
Louiche Mayorga
Sid McCray
Duff McKagan
Moby
Keith Morris
Reed Mullin
Mike Patton
Alec Peters
Rev. Hank Pierce
Jack Rabid
Alvin Robertson
Kira Roessler
Henry Rollins
Howard Saunders
Jordan Schwartz
Angie Sciarappa
Jaime Sciarappa
Kevin Seconds
Dave Smalley
Steve Soto
Bobby Steele
Mark Stern
Sean Stern
Vinnie Stigma
Gary Tovar
Chuck Treece
Oderus Urungus
Jeff Van Atta
Perry Webb
Hank Williams III
Jerry Williams
Todd Youth


[Edited on July 7, 2006 at 9:06 PM. Reason : list from IMDb]

7/7/2006 9:04:29 PM

i wonder if the misfits purposly get left off all these documentaries, or if they want nothing to do with them

7/8/2006 9:22:48 AM

misfits are punk, not hardcore

7/8/2006 9:33:06 AM

Earth AD is fucking more hardcore than the circle jerks and black flag.

7/8/2006 9:48:48 AM

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"then I got to Moby"

Moby was actually pretty active in the hardcore scene in the early 80's. He played with the Vatican Commandos from Connecticut who released three records and were put on a bunch of comps and a couple of the BCT tapes.

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"misfits are punk, not hardcore"

That's up for debate. I'll admit that most of their records are of the KBD punk style, but their last records, Earth AD and Die Die My Darling are straight up 80's hardcore. Couple that with the fact that during those records Robo from Black Flag was playing for drums with them, and that at the last show they ever played (in Michigan I believe) Jonathan Brannon from Negative Approach sang a couple of songs with them, that's more than enough for them to be in this movie. I'm pretty suprised that they got left out.

Also, anybody interested in this movie should check out the book American Hardcore, which was the basis for the documentary. It's a great resource for information about the early 80's movement.

7/8/2006 9:51:59 AM

clap clap. im amazed you know mobys background. i didnt think people outside of ct knew that stuff.

7/8/2006 10:14:32 AM

But of course. That old CT stuff, like CIA and 76% Uncertain, all fucking rips. I actually don't care for the Vatican Commandos that much though, although I've been told Hit Squad for God is the record to listen to.

7/8/2006 10:31:45 AM

if were going into older CT stuff...The Pist, Wide Awake, and Cornerstone need some mention

7/8/2006 10:37:37 AM

i've heard that stephen blush exaggerates quite a bit in the book...can't wait none the less

7/8/2006 11:40:06 AM

I will definitely check it out

7/8/2006 11:43:33 PM

hellz yeah

7/8/2006 11:53:51 PM

Maybe the misfits got left out cause Danzig is a douche?

7/9/2006 1:21:42 PM

On the website it says that the Misfits are discussed, and I'm almost positive they're covered in the book.

7/9/2006 2:46:54 PM

Danzig is less of a douche than Jerry. Danzig is playing with Doyle again...but Jerry is the one refusing to do a real reunion. Glenn has stated recently that hes willing to talk about it, but jerry is being a fruit

7/9/2006 4:09:47 PM

anything that Mike Patton is involved in is likely to be great, so this probably will not suck

7/9/2006 5:49:59 PM

I'm actually quite interested in this.

7/9/2006 5:59:00 PM

bump for blasph

11/10/2006 10:20:01 PM

Yea so whatever happened to this? Did it ever release?

11/11/2006 5:17:02 PM

its been released in certain cities.
closest one seems to be Charlotte, which started yesterday.

11/11/2006 5:23:33 PM

This is opening at Galaxy Cinema in Cary on Friday.

American Hardcore (R)
Fri 1/12/2007 - Thu 1/18/2007: (3:05), 9:05

1/8/2007 8:19:20 PM

fucking sweet. i have to work friday but ill be there saturday<3

thanks for the heads up.

1/8/2007 8:29:06 PM

its playing at the Rialto too I think, on Glenwood.

1/9/2007 1:57:17 AM

this should be required viewing for any joker doing karate or newjack pile-ons at the brewery.

1/9/2007 3:02:08 AM

lol

1/9/2007 3:20:25 AM

^^^the rialto is so totally NOT hardcore though

1/9/2007 8:51:42 AM

i've heard this was good...not great, but good. i'll probably be there opening night.

so who is stoked for that germs movie starring the guy from a walk to remember?

1/9/2007 12:21:10 PM

yes but will it be as good as the "Decline of Western Civilization" series?

1/9/2007 1:10:35 PM

no. it's 20-some years after the fact. i don't think anyone expects it to trump decline. i'm more excited about seeing old fuckers like vic bondi saying what they have to say...that, and i'm wishing for some zero boys footage. i don't think there is any in there, though.

1/9/2007 1:19:33 PM

Playing tonight at the Colony Theater @9:30. It is not playing at the Rialto as previously mentioned.



http://www.therialto.com/main.php?title=now_showing_movies&&theater=Colony

1/12/2007 8:10:08 PM

Also at Galaxy in Cary, which is closer, better, and much more punk. Showtimes at 3:05, 9:05.

1/12/2007 8:23:08 PM

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"this should be required viewing for any joker doing karate or newjack pile-ons at the brewery."

Why do people in Raleigh hate dancing?

1/12/2007 8:47:42 PM

We just hate faggy hardcore dancing, which has a horrible person to space ratio.

1/12/2007 9:06:27 PM

kids in nc cant dance in the first place. ct kids put you fruits to shame.

1/12/2007 9:08:04 PM

^^ thats true, if the brewery ever got really full . . . . . . .

1/12/2007 9:14:13 PM

wtf is mike patton doing on that list

1/12/2007 9:47:06 PM

circle pits and stage dives

1/12/2007 10:13:33 PM

It got punk as fuck up in here for about ten minutes tonight.

1/12/2007 10:15:10 PM

It was good except that bitch in the back row who doesn't know how to shut the fuck up.

1/12/2007 11:52:46 PM

ha, i wish i could've been there tonight to see the "punk as fuck" crowd. as a normal guy who was part of the punk scene in the past (as young as age 10) i would've loved to seen it, but my nana's visitation kept me from being there. i will see it in the next few days.

1/13/2007 12:30:21 AM

It really wasn't a "punk as fuck" crowd. It was mostly the 24+ year olds who have been in it just as long as you and aren't going anywhere.

Hope that doesn't disappoint.

[Edited on January 13, 2007 at 1:35 AM. Reason : o]

1/13/2007 1:34:39 AM

For Cary, it was punk as fuck

1/13/2007 1:51:29 AM

hey dude wheres cary?

1/13/2007 9:54:44 AM

^ lol

1/13/2007 12:42:08 PM

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"Danzig is less of a douche than Jerry. Danzig is playing with Doyle again...but Jerry is the one refusing to do a real reunion. Glenn has stated recently that hes willing to talk about it, but jerry is being a fruit"

Danzig was a dick for 20 years, and now it's Jerry's fault because he doesn't want to get back together? I disagree.

I like Moby's part in "Boston Beatdown."

As for the dancing thing, I think Raleigh is heavily rooted in metal and it just doesn't really get down like that. It has been that way around here as long as I've been coming here for shows (around 1994.) Wilmington and Richmond are not that far away, but hardcore shows there are a completely different scene. I remember one of the first hardcore shows I went to in Richmond back around 1997 people were running off the stage and trying to run across the heads and shoulders of the crowd. I was thinking that if you did that in NC you'd probably get fucked up.

1/13/2007 1:16:23 PM

i went to the colony. the street was full of punks. they had spikes. the film was okay. there was zero boys and die kreuzen footage which was pretty fucking cool. i wish they'd focused on the midwest more, but all in all, it was a good flick.

i was really excited about the end, because as steven blush puts it in the book, hardcore died in '86. how would the younger punk kids react to that? some people were bummed. some people were pissed. hopefully the youngins can prove old blush wrong and start some raging hardcore bands.

as far as raleigh history, mike and reed from coc are in it briefly, as is the brewery and some super short footage of old nc shows and fliers.

[Edited on January 13, 2007 at 1:24 PM. Reason : edit]

1/13/2007 1:17:10 PM

headwalking is a more respectable art than karate. at least a lot of the norma jean white belts are getting into shit like terror, which can in turn get them into gorilla biscuits, which can then get them into real hardcore.

1/13/2007 1:19:42 PM

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"wtf is mike patton doing on that list"

Different Mike Patton. This Mike Patton was in Middle Class and produced the Adolescents LP.

As for the movie, I thought it was kinda weak. No mention of any of the zines, it mostly left out anything about the labels (with the exception of a brief bit on SST) and, even though they covered some rad bands and the Die Kreuzen footage almost made me drop a load in my britches, there were some glaring omissions such as Negative Approach, who only got a brief video clip, Crucifix, RKL, and DI.

1/13/2007 1:21:03 PM

Quote :

"Danzig was a dick for 20 years, and now it's Jerry's fault because he doesn't want to get back together? I disagree."

And just why was he a dick for those 20 years? Because he couldnt deal with Jerry and Doyles drug habbits and egos? Because he didnt feel the need to let two guys live off his songs and name? If you read any interviews with Glenn after the break up, Doyle and Jerry were the cause of the demise.

1/13/2007 1:39:31 PM

this really has nothing to do with hardcore but the "I wanna be your dog" cover on the Sonic Youth album Confusion is Sex was recorded at the Pier in Raleigh.

alittle Raleigh info for ya.

1/13/2007 3:20:56 PM