check this out... haha

http://southernpigskin.com/message.cfm?boardfunc=displaymessage&messageid=48925&sub=thread

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"NEW! Nc State fans posted by: SexualHEELing on 07/09/06 11:44 PM I would agree that they are a unrealistic bunch of folks. I'm not the biggest fan of CTC but I think they are treating him wrong. > NEW! RE: Nc State fans posted by: Philip Rivers on 07/10/06 08:39 AM oh well, if you can't beat us, talk about us all the time. I learned this from unc fans...(see Duke basketball, NC State football) If you can't go to college, go to Carolina. >> NEW! RE: RE: Nc State fans posted by: SexualHEELing on 07/10/06 11:31 AM If we can't beat you? Two in a row. 10 of last 13. 62-27 all time. > NEW! RE: Nc State fans posted by: Pack Man on 07/10/06 01:36 PM aww, look. A UNCommunity College fan has pulled out the 19th century record books. Go win another women's lacrosse championship and leave football alone. The best thing yall ever had was Mack Brown until he realized that CHapel Hell was dead and moved to the bigtime. GG Rivers (or whoever you are) "The strength of the wolf is the pack, and the strength of the pack is the wolf." > NEW! RE: Nc State fans posted by: Crazy Nole on 07/10/06 01:47 PM hmmm.... >> NEW! RE: RE: Nc State fans posted by: Crazy Nole on 07/10/06 01:54 PM I'd have to say that nobody really cares about UNC/NC State outside of NC. Now if you're talking FSU/NCSU, I'd say that that is a big recent rivalry. As far as football goes, I don't really know/care much about UNC. They're kinda like a smaller UVA but with a better basketball tradition. NC State definatley takes the cake for football though. Their stadium atmosphere and crowd is almost like in Tallahasee, plus they're expanding their stadium. UNC football just seems too "soft" for anyone to care outside of NC. "

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7/10/2006 1:57:03 PM

now ask yourself, was that really thread worthy?

7/10/2006 1:59:21 PM

that crazy nole guy pretty much hit the nail on the head.

7/10/2006 2:00:31 PM

^^yes, since this unc dude has been constantly talking junk on state throughout the website.

7/10/2006 2:02:52 PM

Idunno, I thought this pretty much wins...

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"Two in a row. 10 of last 13. 62-27 all time. "

7/10/2006 2:04:42 PM

yea, but nobody outside NC cares about that shit. All they see is NCSU ESPN games that are shown in their area. That means that State doesn't have to acknowledge UNC for anything and we can compete with anybody.

Its like our series record with Dook. We still have more losses to them than wins but most of them were before 1950's and everybody know that NC State >>>>>>>>>>Duke football regardless of series record.

7/10/2006 2:10:28 PM

^^Really. The only thing going for this season is that the UNC game is the next to last game. Last year it was the 3rd game and almost an entire season is just that much harder to watch after a UNC loss.

^Don't be to confident in:

"NC State >>>>>>>>>>Duke"

The last few times we played them the game came down to the last few seconds. We only won one of those on a missed Duke FG. And this was when Duke was going multiple winless seasons. We've been lucky in that we haven't even had them on our schedule to have a chance to lose to over the past few years.

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7/10/2006 2:11:39 PM

tomorrows headlines: unc fan disrespects nc state, wolfpack nation in shock

7/10/2006 2:14:52 PM

now lets just hope that bunt cakes can't do anything with the talent he is getting in

7/10/2006 4:00:06 PM

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">>>> NEW! RE: RE: RE: RE: Nc State fans posted by: Crazy Nole on 07/10/06 02:58 PM Wow, you beat us ONE time. I think i remember (unfortunately) losing to NCSU on several occasions beginning in 1998 when they had some guy named Torry Holt. Nobody in the ACC (before UM) had beaten us that many times. The fact that you've been trashtalking NCSU so much shows some kind of inferiority complex with the school. I'm just saying that outside of your state, people see NCSU as the only major regular football contender. If you claim Duke as a football rival (and alot of UNC fans do) then nobody can have much respect for the football team."

It is interesting to hear some commentary outside of NC

7/10/2006 4:01:39 PM

holy shit....UNC just got dumped on by an Auburn fan. GG Auburn!!!

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" NEW! RE: Nc State fans posted by: War Eagle on 07/10/06 04:14 PM I'm going to have to say that Crazy Nole hit this issue on the head. NCSU is consistently better (overall) in football than UNC. If UNC could ever change their image from being a second rate UVA wannabe, then I think they could go places but as long as NCSU is down the road....good luck promoting that unc/duke rivalry. "

7/10/2006 4:15:50 PM

for football ... i agree

7/10/2006 4:17:12 PM

there are a lot of people who don't like unc (not just nc state and duke).

i think the noles fan and the auburn fan could be a member of that group.

7/10/2006 4:23:06 PM

I think alot of people don't like UNC because they are consistently overrated to the point of pukation.

7/10/2006 4:32:30 PM

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" NEW! RE: Nc State fans posted by: Pack Man on 07/10/06 04:22 PM Yea, I think the general consensus is right. wink > NEW! RE: Nc State fans posted by: SexualHEELing on 07/10/06 07:21 PM Just look at the series numbers people. They don't lie. >> NEW! RE: RE: Nc State fans posted by: Pack Attack on 07/10/06 07:49 PM I couldn't help but comment after reading all of these posts by SexualHElling on NC State. I think he must have been denied admission to NC State and somehow feels that he has to bash the school in order to get back at us. LET it go man, really....nobody cares. "

7/10/2006 7:50:41 PM

sexualHEELing


hahah

7/10/2006 7:58:45 PM

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"The last few times we played them the game came down to the last few seconds. We only won one of those on a missed Duke FG."

i agree overall -- duke plays us way closer than they should -- but that was like a 70 yard attempt

i think it landed literally on the 20, like on the painted number 20

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7/10/2006 8:05:16 PM

^ I remember that shit. And you are right... it wound up being nearly 70 yards and was nowhere close to making it

7/10/2006 8:10:05 PM

as far as it was, I was there, and I was still scared shitless.

7/10/2006 8:12:42 PM

^ I concur. I remember them having a few passing plays before the kick to get into fg range. We were in extreme prevent defense and they just barely missed a catch or two that would have given them a significant chance of making the fg. Plus their kicker was damn good at the time and prolly could have made a 50-60 yarder.

7/10/2006 8:20:01 PM

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"...and I was still scared shitless."

ME TOO!

7/10/2006 9:32:02 PM

I really don't see State beating UNC this year, so that would make 3 in a row, and that all time record is convincing. I love to see people backing up there school, but we haven't done anything that UNC hasn't as of yet.

7/10/2006 11:51:33 PM

it didnt land at all on the twenty. he hooked the fuck out of it and it landed in the back left corner of the endzone... it was very close to having the distance it was just off center as fuck.

7/11/2006 12:45:44 AM

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"but we haven't done anything that UNC hasn't as of yet."

well other than have a winning record in the rivalry

and weren't they ranked as high as #6 in the nation during one of mack brown's seasons

7/11/2006 12:57:17 AM

I love how our rival fans have gone from saying our coach is a joke and will never win without Rivers to we're not giving him a fair shake after 3 of Chuck's recruited players went in the first round in the NFL Draft.

7/11/2006 12:58:30 AM

i have <400 posts, but even I deem this un-threadworthy

7/11/2006 1:47:54 AM

I hate "series numbers" arguments, ESPECIALLY in college

the same guys aren't lining up out there for any longer than four years

so you can't say that they are better now because they were better >60 years ago

7/11/2006 1:55:40 AM

I can absolutly agree with that

7/11/2006 3:50:08 AM

I always consider the establishmet factor. UNC, just like every other "University of_____" was here before the engineering/agriculture school.

Therefore, UNC was already well established long before NCSU, giving UNC the advantage in everything from alumni support, public funding, size and consequently...sports.

This is why college athletics is not as fair/competitive as professional sports (primarily NFL) where teams get fair shares of money and can make or bust depending on their management. (sans NY Yankees)

Disproportionate amounts of taxpayers' dollars go into local universities to provide financial support for their sports teams, yet the majority of the state population never goes to these schools. So what you really have is several semi-pro/Collegiate sports teams with fanbases and everything while education/politics is based upon frivolous school rivalries, etc....

This is why many people including William C. Friday is against bigtime college athletics.

7/11/2006 9:31:26 AM

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"Disproportionate amounts of taxpayers' dollars go into local universities to provide financial support for their sports teams, yet the majority of the state population never goes to these schools."

That's not a fair argument. The converse is the more important point, which is that the majority of these schools' populations are residents of the state.

7/11/2006 9:46:42 AM

I'm not even sure what the fuck you guys are debating? That college athletics sucks?

7/11/2006 9:49:26 AM

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"Therefore, UNC was already well established long before NCSU, giving UNC the advantage in everything from alumni support, public funding, size and consequently...sports. This is why college athletics is not as fair/competitive as professional sports (primarily NFL) where teams get fair shares of money and can make or bust depending on their management. (sans NY Yankees) Disproportionate amounts of taxpayers' dollars go into local universities to provide financial support for their sports teams, yet the majority of the state population never goes to these schools. So what you really have is several semi-pro/Collegiate sports teams with fanbases and everything while education/politics is based upon frivolous school rivalries, etc...."

I am pretty sure that I read something recently saying that State had the most alumni donate money in recent years. (Mostly because of all of the additions) Carolina just had more revenue generated from merchandise sales due to all of the "Walmart fans."

I am not really familiar with smaller schools, but at schools like state . . . the athletics budget is separate from the rest of the budget and it is generated from ticket sales for basketball and football.

7/11/2006 3:12:31 PM

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"UNC football just seems too "soft" for anyone to care outside of NC."

I wish it were true for basketball too!

7/11/2006 7:22:13 PM

UNC's landscaping budget is higher than NC State's
And thats not a per acre budget.

7/11/2006 7:24:55 PM

of course it is, they actually have areas to landscape . . . all we have here brick

7/11/2006 10:19:54 PM

we have plenty of trees. i think some people just get the feeling that we lack trees due to the Brickyard (which i personally think was a great and unique idea). i really like driving down Dunn Ave. and having the trees on each side giving it some shade. have they turned on the fountain for the parents and kids at orientation yet?


i'll gladly conced that UNC feels like they have more trees though. does anyone know the acreage of each campus?

[Edited on July 11, 2006 at 11:19 PM. Reason : ]

7/11/2006 11:13:52 PM

you realize that the state fans looked like idiots?

we are talking shit like we run football, yet they've beaten us 10 out of the last 13 times, and the past 2 times, how is that "pulling out the 19th century rulebook?" seems, like state fans are the people living in the past.

7/12/2006 12:55:04 AM

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"tomorrows headlines: unc fan disrespects nc state, wolfpack nation in shock"

lmfao.

and this puts it all in a nutshell:

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"I hate "series numbers" arguments, ESPECIALLY in college the same guys aren't lining up out there for any longer than four years so you can't say that they are better now because they were better >60 years ago"

7/12/2006 7:56:46 PM

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"so you can't say that they are better now because they were better >60 years ago"

well the same can be said for professional sports

7/12/2006 7:58:57 PM

That is true

But with pro sports, you can have the same nucleus of guys for ~10 years (maybe not so much now)

In college you have a four-year window, and that's IF everyone stays

7/12/2006 8:01:06 PM

they won the last 2 how is that for fitting into your 4 year window

7/12/2006 9:09:35 PM

and we won the two before that. so both are .500 in that 4 year window. i don't get your attempt at trolling.

7/12/2006 9:27:42 PM

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"I hate "series numbers" arguments, ESPECIALLY in college the same guys aren't lining up out there for any longer than four years so you can't say that they are better now because they were better >60 years ago""

im not trying to blow unc here / its a general statement
series numbers show how consistent you play that opp. over the years ... not matching up players from different times

7/12/2006 9:28:09 PM

what he should have said was in college football rivalry games a lot of times the series numbers can be thrown out the window b/c you never know what could happen. a team that seems to be the better team can easily get blown out.

7/12/2006 9:30:46 PM

the all-time series vs. unc is pathetic, especially the early years when all of the games were played in chapel hill. i wonder what the record is since the ACC was formed. that should be a little more telling as to the competitiveness of the two programs fully established and on equal grounds. although it will probably still heavily favor unc, it won't be quite as bad.


ncsu is 22-31 vs. unc since the ACC was formed and 24-38 since 1940 when state reached major college status.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/index.php

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[Edited on July 12, 2006 at 9:49 PM. Reason : .]

7/12/2006 9:39:42 PM

haha

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"State is full of rednecks, UNC full of queers, Duke is full of preppies and Deacons can't drink beers."

7/13/2006 9:45:04 PM

until state beats them in football or basketball, i really don't think anyone should be talking shit

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"and we won the two before that. so both are .500 in that 4 year window. i don't get your attempt at trolling"

so how does that prove we are vastly superior at football than them?

[Edited on July 14, 2006 at 12:25 AM. Reason : lkj;sdf]

7/14/2006 12:23:52 AM

haha, heres a VT fan's take on UNC's kenan stadium.

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" >>> NEW! RE: RE: RE: crappiest stadium posted by: SexualHEELing on 07/17/06 03:41 PM Duke and Wallace Wade. Easy. > NEW! RE: crappiest stadium posted by: Hokie Pokie on 07/17/06 11:49 PM I'm not trying to be mean but UNC's stadium is outdated as hell. We had little red bugs crawling all over us and the pregame entrance was WEAK. The fans are like the poorer, trailer trash cousins of UVA. "

7/17/2006 11:50:56 PM

plz for all of you to shut the fuck up until we win a game against them

7/18/2006 1:44:04 PM

why shut up? They talked shit when we were beating them in everything. We can talk shit and back it up too.

7/18/2006 1:51:33 PM