the government makes decisions for me

http://www.wral.com/news/9495434/detail.html

[Edited on July 11, 2006 at 12:14 AM. Reason : another law all about that $$$$$]

7/11/2006 12:14:14 AM

i see that you hate america.

7/11/2006 12:28:50 AM

Darwin always finds a way.

7/11/2006 1:24:38 AM

^Actually, no. People who don't wear seat belts in the backseat put the folks up front in danger, not just themselves.

That said, I like not wearing my seat belt sometimes.

But, at the same time, if I ever caused a huge accident, I'd hope all passengers involved were wearing their seat belts. I could never scrub that blood off my hands.

7/11/2006 1:50:36 AM

Does this mean Billybob and Pedro cannot ride in the back of the pickup truck anymore ?

And they have the unmitigated gaul to chaulk it up to "cost to soceity" from people doing damage to their own cars and healthcare. How about the cost to soceity of people leaching off the public tit. If they reduced the role of state government it wouldn't even be an issue. Make people pay for their own medical bills in most circumstances. If something unusual happens and that individual hasn't got insurance then they should not get free care as a reward for their carelessness. Instead, give them care, but make them pay it back in the years to come. No more free rides for the slackers of soceity. There's a real way to reduce the "cost to soceity" of accidents involving unbuckled seatbelts( and much much more). Of course that wouldn't raise any money to ingratiate the citizens into keeping those bums in office another term

Cost to soceity... whatever...

7/11/2006 1:53:59 AM

^ oh shut the fuck up.

you couldnt pay for one goddamn medical bill if the state of north carolina wasnt subsidizing your extended education, and your taxpayer-funded FREE HEALTHCARE.

go drive your car off a cliff okay? ill be happy to contribute the miniscule fraction of a tax point to your collective long term care once youve gone brain dead and have to eat through a tube.

just from reading your posts, i imagine it won't be very far from the condition from where you currently are, but at least then you wont be posting your retarded drivel to this forum.

7/11/2006 2:11:38 AM

^I see that you hate america

7/11/2006 6:37:21 AM

well.... duh.

you know i do.

7/11/2006 10:20:10 AM

Touche'

7/11/2006 10:22:59 AM

Quote :

"The bill makes the back seat law a secondary violation, meaning law enforcement cannot stop a vehicle solely for a seat belt infraction. If a driver is pulled over for another reason, non-buckled occupants of the back seat could face a $10 fine."

i think i'll take my chances.

7/11/2006 10:50:46 AM

haahahaha dude mathman made me spit out my orange juice.

7/11/2006 11:07:46 AM

there are so many more things to worry about than having to buckle up in the back seat

[Edited on July 11, 2006 at 12:30 PM. Reason : .]

7/11/2006 12:27:05 PM

Quote :

"you couldnt pay for one goddamn medical bill if the state of north carolina wasnt subsidizing your extended education, and your taxpayer-funded FREE HEALTHCARE."

Where to start, the depth of your ignorance is staggering. For one, NC is not subsidizing my education. As a TA, I have a mutually beneficial relationship with NCSU. I have training and experience that indicates a much higher pay-rate then I get here for teaching. Also, I research and that goes to the credit of NCSU's reputation. These are real services that I lend to NCSU in exchange for a tuition credit. It is certainly not just "subsidized" for free, in contrast to the legions who suck the public tit give nothing back to the state in exchange for the services rendered to them (well except voting democrat perhaps)

As far as the FREE HEALTHCARE goes, it's not free. I work for my benefits, it's no more free than any healthcare package attached to some other job. In essence it is part of my wage.

Besides, if the state and federal government would stop overegulating healthcare, reel in the insurance industry, put a stop to frivolous lawsuits and let people pay directly for health care then the costs would drop yesterday.

Oh well, I probably should have just called you an troglodyte, or something and swore a couple times as that would have been funnier.

7/11/2006 1:35:30 PM

Quote :

". . . .called you an troglodyte . . . "

haha

also:

as a TA, the school is still only covering your in-state tuition which is subsidized.

7/11/2006 1:40:28 PM

if all passengers have to be buckled - insurance should go down slightly - but it won't

7/11/2006 2:03:24 PM

is it weird that you have to be buckled up in a car, yet motorcycles are legal?

always seemed like a double standard to me.

7/11/2006 2:08:00 PM

Quote :

"as a TA, the school is still only covering your in-state tuition which is subsidized."

Slice it whichever way you like, the university profits from graduate students.

7/11/2006 3:42:34 PM

ha math majors think they're important

7/11/2006 3:51:41 PM

Quote :

"is it weird that you have to be buckled up in a car, yet motorcycles are legal? always seemed like a double standard to me."

Seatbelts would make motorcycle accidents worse. You don't want to be strapped to your bike when you wreck.



[Edited on July 11, 2006 at 3:55 PM. Reason : .]

7/11/2006 3:55:24 PM

no shit. it just strikes me as odd that seatbelts are mandatory, yet the government is fine with motorcycles, which generally are much more dangerous than any car (with or without seatbelts).

i'm having trouble wording this well

7/11/2006 5:01:22 PM

i think the argument you are looking for is....

i can't believe this is being talked about and there are states that don't require motorcyclists to wear a helmet

7/11/2006 5:20:49 PM

bingo

7/11/2006 5:25:54 PM

ooooh, I read that wrong.

I thought you were asking why the gov't doesnt force motorcyclists to wear seatbelts.

7/11/2006 5:29:31 PM

Quote :

"is it weird that you have to be buckled up in a car, yet motorcycles are legal? always seemed like a double standard to me."

And bike riders pay higher rates accordingly.

7/11/2006 5:29:32 PM

^ insurance rates aren't regulated by the government

7/11/2006 6:57:13 PM

Quote :

"For one, NC is not subsidizing my education. As a TA, I have a mutually beneficial relationship with NCSU. I have training and experience that indicates a much higher pay-rate then I get here for teaching. "

oh, don't you wish. have you ever had a real job? no, you have no experience. all you have is a proven ability TO BE TRAINABLE. and you can work with minimal supervision. yay.

you're not something special. you're a grad student. yeah, you do grunt work teaching undergrad labs and whatnot, so real professors can do real reasearch.

youre getting far more value out of the system than you are putting in. You're at a State University. You're subsidized. and the state of North Carolina subsidizes students at one of the best rates in the country.

Quote :

"Oh well, I probably should have just called you an troglodyte, or something and swore a couple times as that would have been funnier."

goddamn welfare queen.




[Edited on July 12, 2006 at 2:41 AM. Reason : ]

7/12/2006 2:40:28 AM

Quote :

"oh, don't you wish. have you ever had a real job? no, you have no experience. all you have is a proven ability TO BE TRAINABLE. and you can work with minimal supervision. yay. you're not something special. you're a grad student. yeah, you do grunt work teaching undergrad labs and whatnot, so real professors can do real reasearch. "

Yes everything you say is true. Graduate students working on their PhD's do not do any original research, we do not bring any new ideas or energy to the table. Yep, it's sure nice to have a job where everything is certain and I just do what I've been trained to do, practically w/o thinking. Yep, that's the way it is

Sarcasm aside, I do not consider myself to be that special with regard to math, just for the record.

Quote :

" youre getting far more value out of the system than you are putting in. You're at a State University. You're subsidized. and the state of North Carolina subsidizes students at one of the best rates in the country. "

just plain ignorant. There are lots of other better paying universities for graduate school in science. Some grant like $10,000 more than we get here typically.

Details aside, the $$ (in stipend and tuition) are for the work we do here and for the $$ we are not making in the private sector, if you cannot see the difference between that and just giving people money/services for welfare and so on, then I don't know what I can say to you.

I just hope you are trolling.

7/12/2006 5:52:18 PM

Quote :

"oh, don't you wish. have you ever had a real job? no, you have no experience."

Oh go fuck yourself.

7/12/2006 6:01:42 PM

^ who asked you, anyhow.

7/12/2006 8:30:30 PM

Go get a real job durka durka durka

7/12/2006 8:32:54 PM

ive got one doing real-world engineering R&D.

and its a helluvalot different than teaching stupid undergradutes or assisting some professor's research.

you're 22 years old, and havent known anything other than school. so what the fuck do you know anyhow.

go audit some more philosophy classes, because that's what real jobs are like.




[Edited on July 13, 2006 at 11:54 AM. Reason : ]

7/13/2006 11:52:11 AM

I've worked in the "real world" for a year post-college (during and pre-college work doesn't really apply).

I've done research in academia too. I'd be hard pressed to point at one or the other and go "a-ha! THIS is the real job, and way more important than any other!" People with that kind of attitude usually have deep-seated feelings of inadequacy. Couldn't cut it as a graduate student?

Like I said, I've held a variety of professional jobs. I'm pursuing a PhD, though. It's ignorant and obnoxious to claim that those who dedicate themselves to academia aren't doing a "real" job though.

[Edited on July 13, 2006 at 12:01 PM. Reason : .]

7/13/2006 12:01:13 PM

ok. good point.

FWIW, i could go to grad school, but i'm too old to be that poor again.

7/13/2006 12:08:49 PM

^ I'm richer as a grad student than I was as an undergrad.

I too could never go back.

7/13/2006 5:49:11 PM