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Josh8315
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Its not over.

7/13/2006 3:39:03 PM

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d'oh!

7/13/2006 4:04:04 PM

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Link?

Or is this just made up bullshit?

7/13/2006 4:14:44 PM

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/13/cialeak.lawsuit.ap/index.html

bitch

7/13/2006 4:15:26 PM

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I have to admit, I thought Joshnumbers was making shit up.

Turns out....

7/13/2006 4:46:48 PM

Josh8315
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They are all going to jail.

7/13/2006 4:48:14 PM

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NOW you're making shit up, because they're never going to jail.

7/13/2006 4:50:58 PM

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ok heres what i dont get on this topic

like its obvious bush and his cronies were up to something to try and reveal her identity

so like why hasnt someone gotten in trouble for this

7/13/2006 4:55:07 PM

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"Libby is the only administration official charged in connection with the leak investigation. He faces trial in January on perjury and obstruction-of-justice charges, accused of lying to FBI agents and a federal grand jury about when he learned Plame's identity and what he subsequently told reporters."

7/13/2006 5:01:49 PM

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isnt scooter libby like basically dick cheneys bitch?

7/13/2006 5:04:49 PM

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He was Cheney's Chief of Staff.

So, yes.

7/13/2006 5:07:36 PM

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"ike its obvious bush and his cronies were up to something to try and reveal her identity

so like why hasnt someone gotten in trouble for this"


It's very simple. She was not a covert agent at the time so no crime was committed.

Anyway, the whole thing is rediculous, where's the prosecutions of the intelligence officials that have leaked actually damaging intell to the media? I wish W's admin would make an example of a few of these traitors.

7/13/2006 5:25:03 PM

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"NOW you're making shit up"


you cant make up the future.

7/13/2006 5:25:03 PM

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This will be interesting. Will a civil court have access to the classified materials necessary for a civil suit? Also, since civil courts have a lower threshold, it will be interesting if Rove, Cheney, and Libby will dodge it here. If they do, then there really is no way for Plame to hit them.

7/13/2006 5:32:31 PM

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"It's very simple. She was not a covert agent at the time so no crime was committed"


for a grad student you sure are fucking stupid.

7/13/2006 6:06:19 PM

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^ I'm sorry, is Libby being charged for outing Plame? Is anybody? Why is that? Enlighten me oh wise one.

7/13/2006 6:14:16 PM

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"She was not a covert agent at the time"


Lets put pictures of all former spies in the news.

I cant see anything wrong with this idea.

7/13/2006 6:15:25 PM

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"isnt scooter libby like basically dick cheneys bitch?"

Libby, as the only lawyer, is an immensly powerful part of this administration.

7/13/2006 6:16:59 PM

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he started white house fight club

7/13/2006 6:28:39 PM

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"Several news organizations wrote about Plame after syndicated columnist Robert Novak named her in a column on July 14, 2003. Novak's column appeared eight days after Wilson alleged in an opinion piece in The New York Times that the administration had twisted prewar intelligence on Iraq to justify going to war"


8 fucking days. you do the math.

7/13/2006 6:45:43 PM

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"Lets put pictures of all former spies in the news.

I cant see anything wrong with this idea."


Former spies who make themselves public figures by aligning themselves with political campaigns should not be able to hide under a law which was designed to protect spies in active duty (not Plame). I believe the author of the law in queston has even spoken out exclaiming that the law does not apply to Plame's alleged outing. Anyway, if the law was broken obviously this prosecuter would've grasped onto it by now, I guess yall need to enlist Nifong for the cause. He'd get it done.

7/14/2006 2:26:23 AM

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This is in CIVIL COURT... The law in question does not even apply. There are several torts she could bring. In civil court, the burden of proof is lesser than a criminal trial. Also, classified documents can be subpeoned within reason and I do not think executive privilege will extend to smear campaigns.

Her husband disagreed with the administration about evidence of uranium and they ran a smear campaign as a result. Her idenity was irrelevant to the issue at hand.

7/14/2006 10:50:59 AM

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^I was really speaking more to the criminal allegations that have been promulgated by the media these past few years. No doubt it's easier to get some $$$ for nonsense in civil court, there is no shortage of examples of that.

7/14/2006 11:42:22 AM

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nothing will come of this..absolutely nothing...no one is going to jail...and no one will get any money...

7/14/2006 11:48:06 AM

joe_schmoe
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...because your emotional investment as a republican tool requires you to tenaciously cling to that opinion.

7/14/2006 11:53:47 AM

trikk311
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no...you idiot...because the plames are infantile morons who are loving this publicity and have absolutely no case against anyone but libby...

7/14/2006 12:33:26 PM

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7/14/2006 12:35:57 PM

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7/14/2006 12:54:10 PM

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7/14/2006 12:54:48 PM

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"Several news organizations wrote about Plame after syndicated columnist Robert Novak named her in a column on July 14, 2003."

it sounds like she should be suing Robert Novak if he's the one who outed her

7/14/2006 1:03:37 PM

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damn, youre a sharp one.

why didnt she think of that?

7/14/2006 1:13:28 PM

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survey says "dumb bitch"

7/14/2006 1:25:19 PM

sarijoul
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and all this time i thought you were a guy.

7/14/2006 1:25:52 PM

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"nothing will come of this..absolutely nothing...no one is going to jail...and no one will get any money..."


i want my blankey

7/14/2006 2:01:21 PM

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"nothing will come of this..absolutely nothing...no one is going to jail...and no one will get any money..."


its a fact...

7/14/2006 2:22:52 PM

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if something that hasnt yet happened but could happen, is a fact, then your death by AIDS is a fact.

7/14/2006 2:29:56 PM

trikk311
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indeed...

7/14/2006 3:05:33 PM

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waaaaiiit a tick....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/31/AR2006083101460_pf.html

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"Nevertheless, it now appears that the person most responsible for the end of Ms. Plame's CIA career is Mr. Wilson. Mr. Wilson chose to go public with an explosive charge, claiming -- falsely, as it turned out -- that he had debunked reports of Iraqi uranium-shopping in Niger and that his report had circulated to senior administration officials. He ought to have expected that both those officials and journalists such as Mr. Novak would ask why a retired ambassador would have been sent on such a mission and that the answer would point to his wife. He diverted responsibility from himself and his false charges by claiming that President Bush's closest aides had engaged in an illegal conspiracy. It's unfortunate that so many people took him seriously."


now its over

9/1/2006 10:01:53 AM

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previous paragraph, same article...

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"That's not to say that Mr. Libby and other White House officials are blameless. As prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald has reported, when Mr. Wilson charged that intelligence about Iraq had been twisted to make a case for war, Mr. Libby and Mr. Cheney reacted by inquiring about Ms. Plame's role in recommending Mr. Wilson for a CIA-sponsored trip to Niger, where he investigated reports that Iraq had sought to purchase uranium. Mr. Libby then allegedly disclosed Ms. Plame's identity to journalists and lied to a grand jury when he said he had learned of her identity from one of those reporters. Mr. Libby and his boss, Mr. Cheney, were trying to discredit Mr. Wilson; if Mr. Fitzgerald's account is correct, they were careless about handling information that was classified."


[Edited on September 1, 2006 at 10:52 AM. Reason : ]

9/1/2006 10:49:44 AM

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yup...thats right...that paragraph explains the absurdity that was going on all the time

then...we have the last paragraph which tells whats really going on.....reading comprehension, buddy

its over..

"allegedely"

blah blah blah....grasping at straws.....

its over

[Edited on September 1, 2006 at 10:53 AM. Reason : asdf]

9/1/2006 10:51:06 AM

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the democrats just arent as good as the republicans when it comes to trying to fuck over the other party

9/1/2006 10:52:23 AM

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Mishandling classified information by senior government officials is absurdity?

I suppose we do agree on that.

9/1/2006 10:54:27 AM

trikk311
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we do indeed...prove something already...all allegations are just that...allegations....


its over

i also saw fitzgerald and mike nifong holding hands at the mall

9/1/2006 10:55:39 AM

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Fitzgerald >> Nifong

You're either trolling, or totally unaware of Patrick Fitzgerald's prosecuting record...

9/1/2006 11:35:12 AM

trikk311
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hah...whatever man...just...whatever

its over...

9/1/2006 11:38:33 AM

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"But all those who have opined on this affair ought to take note of the not-so-surprising disclosure that the primary source of the newspaper column in which Ms. Plame's cover as an agent was purportedly blown in 2003 was former deputy secretary of state Richard L. Armitage."


For those who choose not to read the article.

9/1/2006 11:39:56 AM

TreeTwista10
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hey Clinton got impeached

is that recent enough for soap box?

9/1/2006 11:40:47 AM

Gamecat
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Why don't you contribute a thread, chief?

9/1/2006 11:54:20 AM

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contribute to this fucking thread? made by a troll on some speculative shit about someone he didnt like...OH BOY THIS IS QUALITY SOAPBOX MATERIAL

9/1/2006 11:59:37 AM

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"Why don't you contribute a thread, chief?"

9/1/2006 12:00:49 PM

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