Colin Cowherd of ESPN radio was giving love to Chucky. He said there isn't really a reason Amato should be on the hot seat. He went on to say that NC State is an average college football program, at best. I tend to agree.

Amato has raised the national prominence of the program, has recruited big league talent, and has reached a bowl game every year except one. His record in the ACC is the biggest knock against him, but with big wins against some of the power programs, some of that can be forgiven and, frankly, is not bad for our program.

So is Chuck Amato really on the hot seat this season and why?

7/26/2006 11:39:14 AM

if he goes 6-6 or 7-5 then no

but if he goes like 3-9 then yes

the fact that we played well during the 2nd half of last season helped him out

and honestly a lot of it will probably come down to the UNC game

7/26/2006 11:40:26 AM

I personally don't believe that he is on the hot seat with the media, but rather on the hot seat with the students and alumni.

NC State students/alumni have a trend of having high expectations, both in the classroom and on the field, and it's just an extension with the current situation.

As a whole, I don't think that NC State community is mad at what Chuck has been doing for the program, but rather what he hasn't been doing with the stuff he has been doing. For example, you have the #8 offense in the country a few years and can't win the big games. Then you have the #1 defense the next few years, but can't win against UNC, but beat FSU and play competitively against Miami, a team that was #3 the year we played them. Also, getting together the money for a media press tower, facilities, bowl expansion, and jumbotron, but having the worst penalized team in the league, I could go on....

So when you balance those things, we do indded have an average college football program.

"We always seem to get the big fish, but we train them as if they're swimming in a little pond..."

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 11:48 AM. Reason : none]

7/26/2006 11:47:02 AM

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"NC State students/alumni have a trend of having insanely high expectations,"

7/26/2006 11:48:40 AM

There is much more smoke than fire here. It seems to me that for whatever reason the media has worked up a storm about Amato being on the hotseat, without much provocation from the university, fans, or donors.

While Amato certainly has something to prove, without a particularly successful season without Philip Rivers, he is by no means under any ultimatum or in serious jeopardy.

I hope we can win at least 8 games or so in the regular season to put some of this behind him. 5 wins is probably plenty to keep his job another year. 4 wins or less with a loss to UNC and he is in serious trouble, but it is hard to call this situation a hotter seat than many other coaches around the country are on every year.

7/26/2006 11:49:19 AM

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"NC State is an average college football program, at best."

7/26/2006 11:50:26 AM

he goes around saying "mama mia! itsa hot!"

7/26/2006 11:50:47 AM

thatsa one spicy meataball!

7/26/2006 11:52:28 AM

the UNC biased media likes to talk shit about him too

the same retards that still don't know the reason Amato wore the red Adidas kicks was to pay tribute to the defense that the bball team played

7/26/2006 11:52:29 AM

Will he wear no shoes to commemorate the defense we played in this years acc tournament?

7/26/2006 11:54:03 AM

I don't really get the feeling that chuck is on the hot seat from students. Most kids i know like him and his whole character. yeah ive heard he isnt the best game-day coach... but he does well(still needs to step up against unc). His recruiting is the biggest thing as he seems to do well with it year in/year out. I really wish we would lay off of our coaches a little bit. We ran off Herb, and we do not need to do the same for Amato... especially after what he has done for our program. He has built up expectations which is good, now we just need to give him some time to come through on some promises without having him under a magnifying glass. i have a good feeling about this season.

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 11:56 AM. Reason : .]

7/26/2006 11:55:11 AM

^ glad someone does

7/26/2006 11:55:55 AM

we get media attn when we get a #1 draft pick. unfortunately we're predicted to be a bottom feeder in the acc this year, so that's the specific story that came after the nfl draft story wore off.

7/26/2006 11:57:23 AM

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"NC State students/alumni have a trend of having insanely high expectations"

this might be true, but our expectations and would make us happy are different

i would be happy if chuck could get 7-8 wins each year w/ a slightly better or worse season every now and then.

oh

and FUCKING BEAT CAROLINA 2 OUT OF 3 TIMES

7/26/2006 11:59:02 AM

im still not going to ever forgive what happened in the last 1 minute of the 1st half against UNC last year.


ive never been so enraged

7/26/2006 12:01:32 PM

in this case, it was "the media" PRAISING Amato, not bashing him

"the media" is the one saying that he is not on the hotseat, and shouldn't be

I don't think he should be, we wouldn't be where we are (which is maybe the 6th or 7th best team in the ACC) if it wasn't for Chuck

We'd be worse off without Chuck, and if we dump him, we'd be the last place team in the league

7/26/2006 12:02:48 PM

maybe Cowherd was the media saying he shouldnt be on the hot seat

but look at something like the Charlotte Observer who had a story YESTERDAY on how Amato WAS on the hot seat

i hate the tarheels

7/26/2006 12:05:26 PM

NC State fans are sheltered.

Many of them don't understand that NC State is a very, middle-of-the road program in football. I'd say we are a program on the rise, but we don't even compare to some of the upper-middle programs.

7/26/2006 12:09:22 PM

i agree with that completely

but if we are a middle of the road program

why is a coach supposedly on a hotseat after a 7-5 season?

7/26/2006 12:14:43 PM

Why did Herb leave after 5 straight NCAA appearances?

Unrealistic expectations from fans.

7/26/2006 12:17:03 PM

true but in all fairness, our bball program has a couple titles...granted the most recent is 23 years ago

there are only 10-20 programs in the country with multiple titles

in football we dont have the prestige...theoretically we should have higher expectations in bball than football

7/26/2006 12:18:16 PM

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"im still not going to ever forgive what happened in the last 1 minute of the 1st half against UNC last year."

what happened?

7/26/2006 12:22:04 PM

^I vaguely remember us being on like the 5 yard line and not even scoring so much as a field goal because of poor clock management.

EDIT: Now I remember
We got tackled inbounds and the carolina guys pretty much sat on our guy and wouldn't get off of him so they could run the clock out. We couldn't get back to the line of scrimmage.


[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 12:27 PM. Reason : -]

7/26/2006 12:24:44 PM

ha ha ha, i remember now. seems like i was at my grandparents house and had started into "WHAT THE F*CK IS THIS," but caught myself

7/26/2006 12:26:53 PM

hey if the state fans can make herb leave we should start a "fire amato" campaign and see if that works

7/26/2006 12:28:14 PM

^please no

also one thing Amato ALWAYS had over Herb regardless of records, success, etc:

Amato went to State and played football for State...Herb never went to State

7/26/2006 12:30:02 PM

his alumni status and his personality work for him in ways that herb never knew

if herb was an alumni that wore bright red suits, he'd still be here

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 12:32 PM. Reason : .]

7/26/2006 12:31:51 PM

^^I was going to say hair, chest, connections, etc.

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 12:32 PM. Reason : -]

7/26/2006 12:32:33 PM

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"im still not going to ever forgive what happened in the last 1 minute of the 1st half against UNC last year"

7/26/2006 12:33:49 PM

honestly the last thing state needs is that bullshit going around about firing amato.

7/26/2006 12:34:12 PM

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"if herb was an alumni that wore bright red suits, he'd still be here"

You forgot about the shades, but you're right. How could you fire this guy?

7/26/2006 12:55:11 PM

haha i've never seen that pic

7/26/2006 12:59:01 PM

^^awesome

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 12:59 PM. Reason : .]

7/26/2006 12:59:13 PM

^^Source here: http://www.news-record.com/legacy/sports/sendek.jpg

It's an awesome source pic.

Too bad the shoes weren't in the picture

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 1:01 PM. Reason : -]

7/26/2006 1:01:06 PM

that's herb's doppleganger

7/26/2006 1:01:09 PM

^^^agreed

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 1:01 PM. Reason : .]

7/26/2006 1:01:38 PM

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"I'd say we are a program on the rise, but we don't even compare to some of the upper-middle programs."

I first heard (and believed) this probably 4 years ago. I no longer believe it, at all.

I don't think there's anything wrong with me say I'm disappointed in Amato and that he needs to get his ass in gear. Penalities were a huge problem for us 2 years ago. And nothing changed for 2005, still a huge problem.

And how the fuck did we have as crappy a team as we did last year while having 4 first round picks, holy cow man...

7/26/2006 1:28:18 PM

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"i have a good feeling about this season"

that feeling is just gas

7/26/2006 1:30:53 PM

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"im still not going to ever forgive what happened in the last 1 minute of the 1st half against UNC last year. ive never been so enraged"

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 1:38 PM. Reason : and the terrible roughness penalties]

7/26/2006 1:37:02 PM

^^^We certainly had penalty problems early in the year, but improved on them the second half of the season and finished around the middle of the conference in penalty yards per game. Get your facts straight.

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"in this case, it was "the media" PRAISING Amato, not bashing him "the media" is the one saying that he is not on the hotseat, and shouldn't be I don't think he should be, we wouldn't be where we are (which is maybe the 6th or 7th best team in the ACC) if it wasn't for Chuck We'd be worse off without Chuck, and if we dump him, we'd be the last place team in the league"

Cowherd may be saying Amato shouldn't be on the hot seat, but it is other clowns in the media perpetuating the idea that he is on the hotseat. I didn't hear Cowherd, but it sounds like he is responding to "fans" rather than the media, thus perpetuating this false notion.



Also, Sendek's problem wasn't that he wasn't flamboyant. It is that he never "got" the culture of Wolfpack nation, the importance of rivalries, etc (which for all his faults Amato gets, Sheridan got, Jimmy V and Norm Sloan got, Sidney Lowe seems to get). In a big time sports program, particularly one with the passion and history around NC State basketball, a coach needs to "get it". It didn't help that his disdain for fans was pretty apparent.

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 1:43 PM. Reason : .]

7/26/2006 1:40:41 PM

No hes not on the hotseat...the media is just runnin with it because they want to. Losing to inferior teams like Wake,UNC, and sometimes GT/MD needs to be corrected. But Chuck isnt stupid, he knows we have underachieved and u better believe we will put up W's against wake and carolina this season.

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 1:42 PM. Reason : cause i felt like it]

7/26/2006 1:41:11 PM

depends on if he beats UNC sadly

7/26/2006 1:47:35 PM

isn't NCSU average in nearly everything we do? Nuclear Engineering is about the only thing we are noted for.

Get over it, we are an everyday run of the mill university that sometimes gets lucky in a game or two but will not amount to much until things really start to change and we embrace what we have.

/rant

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 1:47 PM. Reason : i cant spell]

7/26/2006 1:47:46 PM

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"We certainly had penalty problems early in the year, but improved on them the second half of the season and finished around the middle of the conference in penalty yards per game. Get your facts straight."

yeah yeah yeah, I was aware that it improved towards the end of the season. But what kind of impression is it to go to the first game of the year and see all the same mistakes that plagued the previous year's team? Doesn't inspire confidence in your coach at all...

7/26/2006 1:49:13 PM

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"depends on if he beats UNC sadly"

Absolutely. Keeping everything else constant, if chuck had better than a .500 record against UNC in his tenure, there would be no hot seat.

Of course there are still a minority of fans who think we're entitled to a national title, but i think the majority of fans would be placated with an ongoing domination of UNC.

7/26/2006 2:08:44 PM

I am just going to quote myself from an earlier thread:

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"You want my opinion on the program? If we can beat the likes of FSU, VTech, and GTech, we SHOULD be able to beat Wake Fucking Forest and Carolina. If this keeps happening.....move on Chuck. We have LOADS of talent."

7/26/2006 2:11:14 PM

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"honestly the last thing state needs is that bullshit going around about firing amato."

just drop it already, i dont want us running off another coach in just a year

7/26/2006 2:11:26 PM

anyone remember last year after we barely beat lost to VT to open the season? and all the VT fans were like, see you guys in jacksonville? and we were all, yeah we'll get em in the acc championship.





yeah...

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 2:44 PM. Reason : haha still dreaming i guess]

7/26/2006 2:26:59 PM

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"anyone remember last year after we bearly beat VT to open the season?"

no?

nc state is building champions.

7/26/2006 2:33:31 PM

i dont remember us beating VT last year

7/26/2006 2:37:14 PM