Without this turning into typical SB thread, I honestly want to know if you could snap your fingers and make policy in the middle east, how would you go about settling the current situation? And please keep in mind that simply 'calling a truce' will not work because if you called Israel tomorrow and told them to stop, they would, Hezbollah would not, so...what would you suggest?

Step by step how would you go about it. No need to explain each step, just state what they would be.

7/26/2006 9:54:30 PM

My first step would to turn all of these idiotic mideast threads into a single mideast thread, thereby lessening my disgust.

7/26/2006 9:56:48 PM

kill all jews

7/26/2006 9:59:07 PM

^is that a serious answer?

7/26/2006 9:59:37 PM

First, I'm not anti-Israel so can I still give the steps?

7/26/2006 10:11:37 PM

absolutely

7/26/2006 10:12:08 PM

Israel's not a real country for one, you can't be against it.

Only anti semite

7/26/2006 10:14:15 PM

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"if you called Israel tomorrow and told them to stop"

Are you fuckin serious? Israel would stop?

HERE IS THE ONLY SOLUTION:

Israel should comply with UN Resolutions 242 and [one more whose number I can't remember] which ask it to move back to 1967 borders.

POOF!

If Israel did that, there would be eternal peace in the Middle East, Palestinian and Hezbolla attacks would cease, and Bin Laden will go on vacation.

[Of course, assuming there are no more land grabs or invasions by the morally superior US]

7/26/2006 10:14:26 PM

There's 11 tribes that would like to see them dead, tho

7/26/2006 10:15:58 PM

http://hezbollahcries.ytmnd.com/

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"HERE IS THE ONLY SOLUTION: Israel should comply with UN Resolutions 242 and [one more whose number I can't remember] which ask it to move back to 1967 borders. POOF! If Israel did that, there would be eternal peace in the Middle East, Palestinian and Hezbolla attacks would cease, and Bin Laden will go on vacation."

You are a funny man.

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 10:16 PM. Reason : .]

7/26/2006 10:16:25 PM

^^^ THAT is the FUCKING CORE of the problem, but of course, most Americans don't even know about it.

Funny how Americans (civilians and government) are asking Lebanon to comply with the UN Resolution WXYZ (1538 ?) which asks it to dismantle the Hezbolla, but no one cares about the decades old resolutions which ask Israel to move back to the 1967 borders.

Israel, of course, would NEVER DO THAT voluntarily, because its goal is to create Eretz Israel--Greater Israel--stretching from the Sinai Peninsula to Syria.

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 10:20 PM. Reason : ^ STFU and contrubute or GTFO]

7/26/2006 10:19:38 PM

1)Dismantle Israel
2)Kick all the Jews out
......
3)Done.

7/26/2006 10:19:39 PM

^^^^^Um ok...right...and the whole 'death to all jews and israelis' thing that Hezbollah and Hamas live by will go POOF as well?

^^^^hah

7/26/2006 10:20:13 PM

You asked for a solution, and I gave you one, one that is demanded by the Palestinians, the international community, and the UN with its binding resolutions.

But of course, what do you care about that, or what would you know about that, if you make ludicrous statements like:

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"if you called Israel tomorrow and told them to stop, they would"

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 10:24 PM. Reason : ]

7/26/2006 10:23:51 PM

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"If Israel did that, there would be eternal peace in the Middle East, Palestinian and Hezbolla attacks would cease, and Bin Laden will go on vacation."

haha, clearly you've lost your mind.

7/26/2006 10:26:03 PM

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"there would be eternal peace in the Middle East, Palestinian and Hezbolla attacks would cease, and Bin Laden will go on vacation."

You're a fucking idiot if you believe that.

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 10:27 PM. Reason : 12 seconds....BTW OEPII1, are you still using a proxy server in that great country of yours?]

7/26/2006 10:26:15 PM

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"^^^ THAT is the FUCKING CORE of the problem, but of course, most Americans don't even know about it."

oh thats right...because if we like israel we are just ignorant .... got ya

7/26/2006 10:32:50 PM

before I post any solutions or steps, do you guys actually know that most of Lebanon's army is shiite and they are fighting with Hezbollah now? The Lebanese army general has made it clear to Israel that he doesn't want that but what in the hell can stop those soldiers from going? Maybe dying will stop them.

Also, you guys need to know that the Shebaa farms are a very big issue in this and if Israel were to give them back to Lebanon (it is Lebanese land, not Syrian nor Israeli) one of Hezbollah's reasons for existing would be gone.

7/26/2006 10:36:39 PM

^^i don't really like israel

i just hate them less.

7/26/2006 10:37:49 PM

Haha what's funny is that the land Israel left 6 years ago was turned into a terrorist frontline for the current attacks and bombings, and this was after Israel was promised peace if they left southern Lebanon.

What's even funnier is that in the 1967 war, Israel was attacked, not the other way around. And now the people who attacked all of those years ago are using the same excuses in the guise of peace that prompted Israel to leave southern Lebanon 6 years ago.

Anybody who claims there will be peace because of some UN resolution is either a person whose IQ borders somewhere around room temperature or whose motives are a lot more sinister than initially meets the eye.

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 10:39 PM. Reason : ]

7/26/2006 10:38:25 PM

I think America's connection to Israel is a little bit deeper than oil. People says its because its a democracy, but thats not really what it is. Look at the way Israel was founded. By kicking the people who lived there off their land and simply killing anyone who resisted their expansion. Does that sound familiar?

7/26/2006 10:41:06 PM

Do you just keep repeating crap hoping that if you say it enough times it might become true?

The British controlled present day Israel. At urging of the United Nations, a small piece of the former British territory was set up as a Jewish state. The British controlled it, before them, the Ottoman Turks, and so on. How can you say that Israel stole something that was legally given to them?

7/26/2006 10:44:17 PM

The only solution here is the final solution

7/26/2006 10:45:32 PM

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"If Israel did that, there would be eternal peace in the Middle East, Palestinian and Hezbolla attacks would cease, and Bin Laden will go on vacation."

You are a complete idiot. the very people who have vowed to wipe israel off the map would just say "eh that's good enough. let's quit blowing shit up and go home and raise goats to fuck like we've always wanted to but were too oppressed to fuck them in the open."

RIGHT.

7/26/2006 10:46:08 PM

If the United Nations gave land that included your home to blacks in reparations for slavery, would it be okay since it was "legal?" I also love how the conservatives rally behind the UN when it suits their purposes.

7/26/2006 10:47:19 PM

Get your history straight. The UN didn't give anybody anything.

Reparations for slavery, hmm...I am all for giving reparations to former slaves. They deserve all the money that they can get from the government.

With regards to the UN and conservative support, since when is stating a point of fact an automatic endorsement of said institution?

7/26/2006 10:51:12 PM

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"On the 29th November, 1947, the United Nations General Assembly passed a resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish State in Eretz-Israel; the General Assembly required the inhabitants of Eretz-Israel to take such steps as were necessary on their part for the implementation of that resolution. This recognition by the United Nations of the right of the Jewish people to establish their State is irrevocable."

I'm waiting for syria to join in.

7/26/2006 10:54:17 PM

well the only way to have 100% peace is to dismantle israel. i mean how hard would that be to turn back the clock 50 years in the name of justice? it hasnt been that long since they stole it shouldnt be too hard to give it back.

just because the brits controlled it doesnt mean its not theirs. the brits were broke and looking for check into cash. thats like if you put israel in india and said "o the brits controlled it it wasnt the indians land"

even better idea, since the united states supports israel so much why not just give them alaska and if they got cold they could just open up the...ovenbad idea how about se louisiana. the american military would surely rescue them quicker than 7 days in the event of a superstorm...OR since britain and us want israel to exist so bad why not just turn the carribean into the, DIG THIS...

jewish isles
now that would really sell. you could pitch something like

PARADISE FOR ALL JEWS

or

WHY CHOOSE SAND IN THE EAST WHEN YOU CAN HAVE WHITE SAND ON THE BEACH?

then theres always antartica. im sure with the 3 billion of aid a month and western will they can build a huge biodome network down there like nobodys business

VIVA LAS JEWDOME


or the us could give all jews 40 acres and a focus that wouldnt follow through.

how many people live on madagascar? i wonder if they'd be more generous than the palestians.

best ideathe best idea would be for everyone who supports the creation of isreal to give thier home to a jew. there would be more than enough and everybody would get exactly what they want. PROBLEM SOLVED

7/26/2006 11:10:50 PM

why do you want them (lebanon)to have the fucking land so bad


you hate the west sooo much


without the west everyone over there would be a fucking camel herder

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 11:14 PM. Reason : idiot]

7/26/2006 11:14:31 PM

why do you have to be "anti-israel' to offer a resolution to this?

7/26/2006 11:16:10 PM

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"even better idea, since the united states supports israel so much why not just give them alaska and if they got cold they could just open up the...ovenbad idea how about se louisiana."

I am amazed that somebody that can so quickly reference the Catechism would spew such hatred.

7/26/2006 11:17:49 PM

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"well the only way to have 100% peace is to dismantle israel. i mean how hard would that be to turn back the clock 50 years in the name of justice? it hasnt been that long since they stole it shouldnt be too hard to give it back."

why not turn back the clock 1000 years?

or 2000 years?

or 3000 years?


that land has changed hands more than once.

whether or not the way it was done 50 years ago was a smart move is irrelevent at this point.

7/26/2006 11:20:02 PM

^because nobody alive had the land 1000 years ago. 50 years ago means most of the people, parents or grandparents were not in "israel" at the start of their life.

my paw always told me "if its recent enough to remember then its recent enough to fix"


at least with alaska and se lousiana they'd still be near oil.

but i might need to rethink the se lousiana thing. israel might get mad at water for destroying thier homes, cafes and busses that they built on the wetlands. then we might be in the same situation fighting a war on water instead of terror and do you know how many water cells there are in the us? israel would end up invading the gulf of mexico just like its lebanon or something. a huge wave would knock down the empire state building. then the water radicals would go hide in the ocean and we wouldnt be able to tell whose who.

alot of water collateral would be involved.

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 11:25 PM. Reason : h]

7/26/2006 11:22:37 PM

REJOICE!

14 Zionist soldiers dead!

7/26/2006 11:29:10 PM

but then lil wayne would get mad and want the land back so they would have a huge rap battle on mtv between lil wayne and matisyahu. the winners people get the ninth ward.

with the new war on water americans would now be scared to go to the beach like they used to be scared to fly.

h2bOllah would strap bombs around some of its molecules and go into waterfountains/faucets blowing up innocent mouthes.

george bush would blame the arctic ocean as being the real government behind this axis of water and would urge the un to stop arctic ocean from trying to melt its caps.

hatred would be given towards even the innocent american bodies of water like the great lakes, missippi river and others.

7/26/2006 11:38:40 PM

AHAHAHAHAHA that's great!

Did you make that up yourself or found it somewhere?

Very apt!

7/26/2006 11:40:24 PM

as usual, the two biggest idiots in the thread start sucking each other's dicks. good job, homos.

7/26/2006 11:53:56 PM

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"1)Dismantle Israel 2)Kick all the Jews out ...... 3)Done."

7/26/2006 11:55:18 PM

^^ don't get your panties in a wad, pansy boy.

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 11:57 PM. Reason : closet fag]

7/26/2006 11:56:58 PM

^^^hahahahahaha

7/26/2006 11:59:40 PM

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"You asked for a solution, and I gave you one, one that is demanded by the Palestinians, the international community, and the UN with its binding resolutions."

FYI, the international community doesn't demand shit form Israel.

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"HERE IS THE ONLY SOLUTION: Israel should comply with UN Resolutions 242 and [one more whose number I can't remember] which ask it to move back to 1967 borders."

Perhaps you forgot the TERMS of 242, namely that Israel return the captured lands for GARAUNTEED PEACE and the end of contestation of their remaining lands.

Egypt never agreed to the resolution, they didnt even recognize Israel as an entity and refused to agree to peace. Nasser never backed down on this during his entire time in power.

Instead they have been attacked via goverment funded militia's, jihadist organizations, and everything in between ever since. They have absolutely no responsibility to this resolution because it has NEVER been upheld by the other side.

You are probably referring to the other Resolutions 338 and 339, which came as a result of Egypt trying to full on attack Israel and recover the Sanai peninsula, AND to have Syria and Lebanon destroy as much of the northern part of the country as possible.

The only possible solution longterm is to somehow get a strong central government into Lebanon who can police their own damn territory, and to find some way to get Syria to end it's and Iran's terrorist activities.

Everyone is always so quick to blame Israel for bombings and killing civilians and bloodshed and violence, but SO QUICK TO FORGET the thousands of Israeli civilians who have died as a result of terrorism over the past 3 decades, all because their neighbors cannot or will not stop the organizations responsible.

7/27/2006 12:02:55 AM

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"The only possible solution longterm is to somehow get a strong central government into Lebanon who can police their own damn territory, and to find some way to get Syria to end it's and Iran's terrorist activities. "

ok, how would you solve the palestinian problem, which is the main issue here?

[Edited on July 27, 2006 at 12:08 AM. Reason : "thousands of Israeli civilians" as opposed to tens of thousands of arab civilians?]

7/27/2006 12:07:04 AM

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"I am amazed that somebody that can so quickly reference the Catechism would spew such hatred."

lol

7/27/2006 12:09:31 AM

Actually, I should take that comment back. Even satan tried to tempt Jesus by nitpicking through the Old Testament.

7/27/2006 12:11:06 AM

hey cxmai...did we ever clear up what that whole deal was about you using someone else's information?

7/27/2006 12:13:02 AM

I believe that deserves a banning.

7/27/2006 12:13:40 AM

yeah, catholics have sure shown nothing but love and compassion for the world since their beginnings.

7/27/2006 12:14:29 AM

so much liberal hatred for so many people. why is this?

7/27/2006 12:18:06 AM

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"Everyone is always so quick to blame Israel for bombings and killing civilians and bloodshed and violence"

Well, they are kind of you know, doing it, so who else should we blame?

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"but SO QUICK TO FORGET the thousands of Israeli civilians who have died as a result of terrorism over the past 3 decades, all because their neighbors cannot or will not stop the organizations responsible"

I think that's terrible too, but just the killing of innocent civilians doesn't justify killing more innocent civilians.

7/27/2006 12:18:07 AM

glad tidings on cnn front page:

9 Israeli soldiers killed in southern Lebanon

AND

Hospital: Sharon taken to intensive care

also:

Sources: Precision-guided bomb killed U.N. troops

reaffirming israel as a terrorist nation

7/27/2006 12:18:41 AM