Actually, 50,000,000.



http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=india+infanticide

From the first link:

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"According to a recent report by the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF) up to 50 million girls and women are missing from India' s population as a result of systematic gender discrimination in India. In most countries in the world, there are approximately 105 female births for every 100 males. In India, there are less than 93 women for every 100 men in the population. The accepted reason for such a disparity is the practice of female infanticide in India, prompted by the existence of a dowry system which requires the family to pay out a great deal of money when a female child is married. For a poor family, the birth of a girl child can signal the beginning of financial ruin and extreme hardship. However this anti-female bias is by no means limited to poor families. Much of the discrimination is to do with cultural beliefs and social norms. These norms themselves must be challenged if this practice is to stop. Diagnostic teams with ultrasound scanners which detect the sex of a child advertise with catchlines such as spend 600 rupees now and save 50,000 rupees later. The implication is that by avoiding a girl, a family will avoid paying a large dowry on the marriage of her daughter. According to UNICEF, the problem is getting worse as scientific methods of detecting the sex of a baby and of performing abortions are improving. These methods are becoming increasing available in rural areas of India, fuelling fears that the trend towards the abortion of female foetuses is on the increase"

[Edited on August 2, 2006 at 11:57 PM. Reason : ]

8/2/2006 11:55:43 PM

i hope this is bullcrap

8/2/2006 11:59:59 PM

i never trust a nation that uses the same currency as the legend of zelda

8/3/2006 12:01:16 AM

ahahahahaha

8/3/2006 12:02:24 AM

I know this kind of thing actually does happen, and it's weird. Kind of like the Twilight Zone. All these people having boys but nobody saying anything about how they got so "lucky."

8/3/2006 12:03:30 AM

it may not be that bad a thing actually as it will seriously curb population growth in india (china is going to experience the same thing) as there aren't enough women to keep the population growth at the previous rate. It's nice to think about hving a son so he can marry a girl down the road, until you realize there are no girls for him to marry.

8/3/2006 12:08:43 AM

so what. fucking eskimos will just leave female babies to die. these embryoes are lucky they cant think or feel pain.

8/3/2006 12:11:05 AM

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"i never trust a nation that uses the same currency as the legend of zelda"

i always thought the same thing, but hearing someone else say it made me lol

8/3/2006 12:13:15 AM

To the credit of the Indian Gov, they have banned ultrasounds for pregnant women, unless there is a medical reason (genetic diseases, etc), and just the other day, there was a report in the paper about a doctor being jailed for providing ultrasounds to pregnant women.

BUT, it is a big country with lots of people, and corruption and bribery are widespread. How many people are you gonna check? And even when you do, 100 rupees passed to the gov official could do wonders for you.

8/3/2006 12:29:06 AM

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"i never trust a nation that uses the same currency as the legend of zelda"

FTW

8/3/2006 12:43:28 AM

Woman in other countries are generally considerd worthless, for obvious reasons.

8/3/2006 1:11:27 AM

because they're filled with gay men?

8/3/2006 1:48:07 AM

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"i never trust a nation that uses the same currency as the legend of zelda"

wow that gave me a good laugh
gg lol

8/3/2006 7:43:38 AM

there are more than enough people in India now

8/3/2006 7:48:59 AM

What are you guys upset about? This is a great practice. Unwanted children are aborted before they have the chance to ruin the lives of the parents.

This is why we have abortion!

8/3/2006 7:49:47 AM

This shit does happen.

Another piece of my culture that I reject.

8/3/2006 8:24:28 AM

technically the dowry is illegal though, so it shouldn't be happening

8/3/2006 8:29:58 AM

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"According to UNICEF, the problem is getting worse as scientific methods of detecting the sex of a baby and of performing abortions are improving. "

sounds like this would be better

well, it also sounds like a sausage party

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"i never trust a nation that uses the same currency as the legend of zelda"

you win




[Edited on August 3, 2006 at 8:38 AM. Reason : s]

8/3/2006 8:38:29 AM

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"it may not be that bad a thing actually as it will seriously curb population growth in india (china is going to experience the same thing) as there aren't enough women to keep the population growth at the previous rate."

Great, a silver lining in a tub of shit. I don't care about their population; I just don't want them to turn the world into a sausage party.

8/3/2006 9:13:12 AM

My favorite quotes from this thread:

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"i never trust a nation that uses the same currency as the legend of zelda"

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"ahahahahaha"

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"because they're filled with gay men?"

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"well, it also sounds like a sausage party"

... wow, that's pretty much every post

8/3/2006 9:23:14 AM

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"technically the dowry is illegal though, so it shouldn't be happening"

EXACTLY!

However everyone still does it. When I was there, a woman went to the police because her fiance's family demanded a dowry and she wouldn't pay it. It was SO rare and spectacular that it was the talk of the entire province. The family who refused to pay the dowry had to move away because they called out the offending family publicly and there was some serious bad blood then.

8/3/2006 9:27:06 AM

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"This shit does happen. Another piece of my culture that I reject."

8/3/2006 9:58:48 AM

I Had to chime in.

Dowry is something that happens probably in the lower poorer classes. Even then, I doubt you understand what dowry really means. In any case, none of the people I know/aware of have had to deal with it. Maybe I live in a bubble.

Now, about the quote

"This shit does happen.

Another piece of my culture that I reject."

Dumbest thing I could hear. Do you accept eugenics? Heck, what is your culture?

8/3/2006 10:09:29 AM

none of what you just said made any actual sense.

try again.

8/3/2006 10:19:43 AM

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"Dowry is something that happens probably in the lower poorer classes."

Hello and welcome to 90% of the Indian population!

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"Maybe I live in a bubble."

You mean like nearly every rich Indian I met when I was there? They're oblivious to the problems of their country, it's astounding how they drive through slums to get to their gated communities and when asked say, "what slums?"

[Edited on August 3, 2006 at 10:35 AM. Reason : ]

8/3/2006 10:34:55 AM

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"Hello and welcome to 90% of the Indian population!"

I was about to give a factual reply, but I saw the exclamation mark at the end. Now I am thinking if you were being funny or

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"You mean like nearly every rich Indian I met when I was there? They're oblivious to the problems of their country, it's astounding how they drive through slums to get to their gated communities and when asked say, "what slums?" "

Well, the same way you know nothing about the ghettos or the area around Shaw University.

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"none of what you just said made any actual sense. try again. "

Which part? The Eugenics?

[Edited on August 3, 2006 at 10:39 AM. Reason : .]

8/3/2006 10:38:00 AM

you will say anything to defend all things Indian

8/3/2006 10:43:45 AM

Yeah, I sure am defending something...like you sure tried to read.

It just depends on what we consider to be worse than our "situation".

To me eugenics and Tuskegee are worse than dowry, but you'd think I am defending something.

8/3/2006 10:45:41 AM

What the hell do you think I was referring to with my original post?

8/3/2006 10:47:47 AM

I dunno man

I just didn't think dowry and sex based selection was part of culture.

Maybe I found the use of the word "culture" somewhat ignorant/stupid.

Maybe I am just overreactive.

8/3/2006 10:49:06 AM

yes, you are.

I was decrying the female infanticide that's common in India. The dowry thing was brought up by someone else.

8/3/2006 10:50:39 AM

Something that's illegal and carries so much social stigma with it couldn't be that "common". Someone pointed out how easy it is to pay Rs. 100/- and get a sonogram.

I would love to give you $100 and watch you get it done.

[Edited on August 3, 2006 at 10:54 AM. Reason : .]

8/3/2006 10:52:08 AM

Feel free to give me $100 anytime you want.

8/3/2006 10:54:08 AM

feel free to bring me an undisputable sonogram of your wife's alive fetus from india.

8/3/2006 10:56:29 AM

i abhor female infanticide AND dowries

and while we're at it, i also detest the caste system

8/3/2006 11:10:31 AM

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"Well, the same way you know nothing about the ghettos or the area around Shaw University."

You know what happens when you assume...

(and yes, I do know about those slums and know people who live there, thx)

8/3/2006 11:35:02 AM

America has different values if you've ever noticed. Most of the world the men dominate the job market, and the cooking and cleaning are left to other suitable patrons physically and mentally unstable to suite the complex tasks. So, all the fathers want females excommunicated from the family practice, and a boy to continue the family name, it's not that hard to grasp

My soc teacher once told me men and woman are the same thing, both just looked at differently by society, I asked him if he's married

8/3/2006 11:38:08 AM

America > *

8/3/2006 11:40:22 AM

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"This shit does happen. Another piece of my culture that I reject."

Exactly, but America will destroy itself before there are a billion people in the country, so we won't have to worry about that problem.

8/3/2006 11:43:09 AM

Thought I would chime in.....

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"it also sounds like a sausage party"

8/3/2006 12:13:17 PM

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"Well, the same way you know nothing about the ghettos or the area around Shaw University."

I go one block off MLK and I'm like

8/3/2006 12:15:16 PM

I didn't assume anything...I used to ride the CAT through Shaw early in the morning EVERY DAY 2 years ago. Some of the shit I used to witness was terrible even by my third world standards.

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"America has different values if you've ever noticed. Most of the world the men dominate the job market, and the cooking and cleaning are left to other suitable patrons physically and mentally unstable to suite the complex tasks. So, all the fathers want females excommunicated from the family practice, and a boy to continue the family name, it's not that hard to grasp"

You miss the point, and there's no way anyone could reply to that without calling you a dumbass.

8/3/2006 12:50:22 PM

someone plz post the history behind the dowry

8/3/2006 1:03:03 PM

Dowry is a western concept pioneered by the Romans and brought to India by the British

8/3/2006 1:03:59 PM

no thats not true. indians invent dowry. it comes from the word for curry.

8/3/2006 1:08:26 PM

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"i never trust a nation that uses the same currency as the legend of zelda "

oh my dear lord

ahahahahahahahahah

8/3/2006 1:10:07 PM

8/3/2006 1:13:47 PM

blang blang

8/3/2006 1:18:30 PM

what is the background behind the dowry?

i mean whos idea was it to make a woman pay to marry a dude?

8/3/2006 1:26:44 PM

ghandi

8/3/2006 1:30:36 PM