30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060805/NEWS99/308050001
Quote : | "Camaro to roar back by 2008 GM to announce Chevy going from concept to streets
August 5, 2006
Email this Print this BY TOM WALSH and MARK PHELAN
FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITERS
The 400-horsepower Chevrolet Camaro concept generated buzz at the North American International Auto Show in January. (MANDI WRIGHT/Detroit Free Press) It's really happening: The Chevy Camaro is coming back as a production car, the Free Press has learned.
General Motors Corp. Chairman Rick Wagoner is expected to announce the resurrection of the legendary muscle car in a speech Thursday to an automotive conference in Traverse City.
The auto industry has been buzzing with speculation about GM's plans for the Camaro ever since the carmaker wowed the crowds at the 2006 North American International Auto Show in January with a stunning 400-horsepower concept. At a time when truck and SUV sales are softening and car sales are regaining momentum, a sexy new entry could give GM's entire passenger-car line a boost.
The production version could be built as early as 2008 and will offer three engines, a V-6 and two V-8s, according to people familiar with the plans.
GM spokesman Steve Harris would not comment Friday on plans for the Camaro, but other sources told the Free Press that GM's top management and board of directors have green-lighted the car.
The Camaro was introduced in 1966 as the answer to the Ford Mustang, and it prowled America's streets and drag strips until production ended in 2002.
Like the concept, the production Camaro will be based on GM's new Zeta global architecture for rear-wheel-drive cars, expected to form the basis for several big, powerful sedans and coupes to be introduced over the next few years.
It was unclear last week where GM intends to build the Camaro. Speculation in the automotive press has centered on assembly plants in Oshawa, Ontario, and Wilmington, Del.
Other unanswered questions are sure to keep the buzz going even after Wagoner's announcement:
How many people will buy a Camaro in the age of $3.15-per-gallon gasoline?
What will it cost?
And what about bringing back the Pontiac Firebird/TransAm?" |
8/6/2006 7:39:11 PM |
tripleD4u All American 6247 Posts user info edit post |
I like it. Nice lookin 8/6/2006 7:41:44 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
I knew they would bring it back, just didn't know when. I'm glad too, Camaro's are nice cars.
It looks good! 8/6/2006 7:43:12 PM |
NCSU 1887 All American 3808 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Camaro's are nice cars." |
Yeah, pre-19708/6/2006 7:44:23 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
Gas prices aren't such a big concern with one of these esp. if they have the 4-cylinder deactivation system in the V-8. If I didn't already have one I might buy one. In fact I may still sell mine for a brand new big-engined V-8, but with another kid on the way, I probably better just stick with what I have. Its not as hot, but its almost paid off. 8/6/2006 7:45:55 PM |
tripleD4u All American 6247 Posts user info edit post |
^^69 rally sport
[Edited on August 6, 2006 at 7:46 PM. Reason : ,] 8/6/2006 7:46:29 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Agreed, I am a fool for the 69. But some/most of the 90's were nice, 80's weren't great...
[Edited on August 6, 2006 at 7:47 PM. Reason : ] 8/6/2006 7:47:38 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
I agree, I love 67-69, then I couldn't stand them until 90s. This one is light years ahead of the previous models though and is so much hotter than mine could ever be. I think its light-years ahead of the Mustang too, which I will say looks damn good in my opinion. 8/6/2006 7:53:09 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
i like 70-71 best 8/6/2006 8:39:35 PM |
sublime_ncsu All American 5037 Posts user info edit post |
bring back the Trans Am 8/6/2006 8:41:13 PM |
OuiJamn All American 5766 Posts user info edit post |
FUGLY 8/6/2006 8:46:15 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
I'll take one. 8/6/2006 8:49:03 PM |
tkeaton All American 5775 Posts user info edit post |
at least it ain that ugly fuckin thing they had in the 90s
8/6/2006 8:54:45 PM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
challenger w/ superhemi ftw 8/6/2006 9:02:21 PM |
nightkid86 All American 1149 Posts user info edit post |
hood is to high and the windshield too low, but overall it has a nice general shape to it. Those wheels are a bit large too. 8/6/2006 10:26:45 PM |
SymeGuy69 All American 11036 Posts user info edit post |
Looks KICKASS 8/6/2006 10:53:53 PM |
superchevy All American 20874 Posts user info edit post |
i had hoped that gm would modify that concept's main grill, but i guess not. i can't stand how the top corners look. i think it completely fucks up the overall look of the front end. other than that, i love the design. the low roofline/high doors look awesome! in conjuction with the arched rear wheel wells, the concept has a really menacing stance. 8/6/2006 11:07:08 PM |
mattc All American 1172 Posts user info edit post |
fugly
looks like they went the same direction everyone else did
[Edited on August 6, 2006 at 11:20 PM. Reason : did] 8/6/2006 11:20:28 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
the perfectionist in me wants to work on the front end just a little bit...
the man in me wants to hit the gas pedal as hard as possible
by the way... this is OLD. i had to do it to someone else for once. the pics have been out for a year or more now
[Edited on August 6, 2006 at 11:26 PM. Reason : ] 8/6/2006 11:24:55 PM |
arghx Deucefest '04 7584 Posts user info edit post |
can you imagine the mayhem if they offer one with an LS7? 8/6/2006 11:27:27 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
^^ the thread wasn't about the pic, it was about the announcement to be made on thursday, had you read the fucking article. 8/6/2006 11:35:30 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
don't get your panties in a wad... i know you took all that time and trouble to copy/paste and so everyone should take the time to read your article...
and, no, i didn't 8/6/2006 11:43:14 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
i like the 67-69 models, too, but how can you hate on the '70 with the split front bumper? 8/7/2006 1:05:15 AM |
esgargs Suspended 97470 Posts user info edit post |
looks a lot like the Mustang 8/7/2006 1:16:16 AM |
Ernìe Veteran 188 Posts user info edit post |
looks a lot like the Mustang 8/7/2006 1:17:36 AM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
back in the day a lot of people would not have recognized the differences either...
just believe a huge fan of camaros when i say that they are very very different 8/7/2006 1:27:03 AM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
That is the concept cars look too. They haven't announced what the production model will look like. Obviously it will be pretty much the same, but they may make some adjustments. Besides, as with most concepts, they usually put massive wheels on them, and I'd be very surprised if they came equipped like that from the factory. 8/7/2006 6:55:48 AM |
tennisdude All American 2350 Posts user info edit post |
i say bring back the trans am
and anyone have an idea of what this is gonna cost when its out on the market? 8/7/2006 8:53:45 AM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
I say the Firebird ain't happening. Why you ask? Because the market is too tight and the Firebird ate up more of the Fbody budget. Firebirds always cost more than Camaros, sold like maybe half as many as the Camaro, and had so many more choices associated with it that cost more money from the budget. Think, it had more bumper options, hood options, rims, 3 V-8 options to Camaros 2, etc. With the GTO and Solstice in the Pontiac stable right now Pontiac is being positioned more as the luxury or adult vehicles from Chevy and probably doesn't have the room for another RWD performance machine.
I would like to see it, but with the General as a company losing so much money (10 billion last year) its not going to drop into two cars that are seriously going to compete with each other. 8/7/2006 11:02:14 AM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
it looks good, doesnt look like a mustank u guys are retarded. every car resembles some car in some way. since that's the case ill say it looks a lot like a corolla. retaadz 8/7/2006 11:24:11 AM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
it looks like it weighs 5000 lbs. 8/7/2006 6:15:29 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
They're probably gonna do the same thing ford did with the mustake... flood the marked with 6 cylinder versions..
this really just takes away from the classic muscle car IMO 8/8/2006 2:03:23 AM |
tkeaton All American 5775 Posts user info edit post |
well we do live in the present, not the classic era 8/8/2006 7:26:42 AM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They're probably gonna do the same thing ford did with the mustake... flood the marked with 6 cylinder versions.." |
They are going to have two V-8 versions. Now if folks buy the V-6 for better fuel mileage thats their own damn fault. Shit I'd like some dumbass in a new V-6 to pull up next to my old V-8 and rev like his is hot shit. I'd smoke that fucking faggot. 8/8/2006 7:45:04 AM |
Pyro Suspended 4836 Posts user info edit post |
Expect a taller roofline and shittier wheels. Otherwise what you see is probably what you'll get. 8/8/2006 8:08:40 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
anybody else think the side mirrors are a lil funky ? 8/8/2006 8:25:39 PM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
3 dollar gas= BRING BACK THE MUSCLE CARS!!!
way to be 3 steps behind as usual GM 8/8/2006 8:31:00 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
looks a lot like the Mustang 8/8/2006 10:08:43 PM |
superchevy All American 20874 Posts user info edit post |
^^ don't worry. the new camaro will get ~25 mpg. 8/9/2006 12:35:08 AM |
Mindstorm All American 15858 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "anybody else think the side mirrors are a lil funky ?" |
I think that's more of a concept shot.
It'd explain why the wheels are huge, and the mirrors are tiny.
Gives it a different, "cooler" look. It's just not practical, so the production models tend to look more... conservative.8/9/2006 1:15:33 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
^^ maybe if it does that shit the impala does and turns in to a 4 cylinder when not going fast 8/9/2006 3:43:13 AM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
^Yes it has cylinder deactivation on the V-8s. The Corvette Z06 gets like 27 mpg on the highway, so if this isn't tuned up as high, we could possibly see 30 mpg. In fact thats the rumor that is going around, that it gets 30+.
^^And yes, thats just the concept they unveiled first of the year. The real production model has not been seen yet. And of course things are exaggerated on the concept cars. I would be surprised if the production model came with 22's on the back and 21's on the front standard. 8/9/2006 9:26:06 AM |
Blue Jay All American 3082 Posts user info edit post |
eh, I might get one. Have to see about the price and all that other stuff. 8/9/2006 1:46:37 PM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
Chevy ftw
fugly.... 8/9/2006 5:57:10 PM |
Mindstorm All American 15858 Posts user info edit post |
I think I'd like it more if I saw a couple light chrome accents, and a chrome grill. That grill just doesn't look good as is. Looks cheap and plastic... I guess it is cheap and plastic. 8/9/2006 11:26:04 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Latest info on timeline and faithfulness of production model to concept, with some cool features:
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/10/official-general-motors-will-build-2009-chevrolet-camaro 8/10/2006 2:45:11 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
i actually like it and i've never been a fan of camaros 8/10/2006 3:00:20 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
This seals the deal. I am stopping working on mine immediately and will begin putting money aside to buy one of these.
In fact, somebody pointed out a great idea for Chevy would be to let customers start an account at their local dealership and make payments in advance to start saving up for the car, and pay interest on the money that is put in. I'd love if they did that! 8/10/2006 4:49:13 PM |
Maugan All American 18178 Posts user info edit post |
Those pics look good.
I love the Ford/Chevy debate going on in the story comments though.
"Ohhh by the time this hits, the redesigned mustang will be out and the camaro and challenger will be left in the dust".
Whatever dude. Everyone who wants to buy a new mustang already has. 8/10/2006 5:33:53 PM |
bcvaugha All American 2587 Posts user info edit post |
how many wil the NCHP buy? 8/10/2006 5:41:38 PM |