In my stride to become the ultimate fighter i decided to take a 3-4 of months of jiu jitsu, i already do boxing and it seems like jiu jitsu would be the perfect combination for close contact combat. Does anybody here have any experiance with brazilian jiu jitsu? Do you know of any Gyms around here that offer classes?

8/9/2006 1:02:46 PM

BJJ is a good idea to just round yourself out as a fighter in general. Any kind of grappling would, though.

Anything that has a focus on defending yourself against (and launching) strikes on the ground, general presence/balance/reflex on the ground, and some solid technique for escaping locks and chokes will do. BJJ is just one way about it.

There's a dude named Brad Huffman in Cary who teaches how to grapple. He can grapple pretty well, but he markets some bullshit Kung Fu in the mix with what he does that just isn't authentic. However, if you want to get a crash course in how to be competant on the ground he's a good choice.

Other people probably know better places to learn how to grapple. Are you trying to learn how to defend yourself, or to learn how to fight within a specific format?

8/9/2006 1:11:40 PM

yeah thats what i am looking for, 6'1 , 210lb isn't Big at all in today's standards, and the only way to deal with those big motherfuckers is to take them down to the floor and fuck em up.

the only school in Raleigh that i found teaching brazilian jiu jitsu is REMA.

8/9/2006 1:26:42 PM

Don't know about that school you'd have to ask.

You want to learn how to deal with somebody with the maximum possible speed. Going to the floor should be your last option in a real street fight or unexpected confrontation. The reality of it all is -- you don't know how many potential attackers there are. Last thing you need is to be on the ground if a second or third guy comes up on you. You can never take a fight to the ground if there's more than one attacker.

8/9/2006 1:36:24 PM

you should just shoot them. that's the obvious answer. buy a really cool gun.

8/9/2006 1:44:29 PM

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"Do you know of any Gyms around here that offer classes"

OMGoogle

8/9/2006 1:53:06 PM

If you are going to get into BJJ you definitely want to go through Crossfit-NC in North Raleigh. Bill Dowey has trained under the Gracies and they are adding staff as the club gets bigger. If you want to be involved with MMA in Raleigh, I think Crossfit is the way to go. THe cost is like 150 a month plus about 20 miles rt and that is why I am not currently taking classes. I am going to approach them about holding a class on or around campus.

8/9/2006 2:35:22 PM

^ do they have a website? 150$/20 miles is not a problem

I agree with you, there is no such thing as a fair fight, thats why I am more concerned with taking people to the ground than fucking them on the gound, I am not looking into this because i intentionally want to take the fight to the ground, but because in reality most fights eventually end up in on the ground, knowledge of close contact fighting on the ground and techniques to take someone to the ground is essential to someone like me that has only knowledge/experiance in stand up striking combat (boxing)

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"OMGoogle"

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"the only school in Raleigh that i found teaching brazilian jiu jitsu is REMA"

[Edited on August 9, 2006 at 2:43 PM. Reason : .]

8/9/2006 2:39:07 PM

crossfitnc.com

8/9/2006 2:54:02 PM

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"you should just shoot them. that's the obvious answer. buy a really cool gun."

You don't always have the chance to draw.

Besides -- I wouldn't fight like you see the Gracie's fight if your life depended on it. Relying on the other person to fall asleep to score a win isn't a good way to defend yourself against a variable number of opponents.

8/9/2006 3:08:34 PM

^ so what do you recommend?

8/9/2006 3:26:18 PM

Best method to avoid a fight. Walk away.
Best method of staying alive. Run away.

Therefore = Join the cross country team. And learn how to run really fast and really long.

Best method to be an ultimate fighter is definately bjj and muay thai (in UFC/MMA standards).

[Edited on August 9, 2006 at 3:30 PM. Reason : extra method]

8/9/2006 3:28:39 PM

Muay Thai/BJJ is a great combo.

What I'm suggesting is, you need to just learn how to be an aggressive, brutal motherfucker if you want to defend yourself on the street. When somebody attacks you, drop him as fast as you can and step back to see if he's got a buddy coming. The worst thing you can do is drop to the ground with him, ready to show off your BJJ -- his buddy's gonna slap you in the head with a bottle and you won't even see it coming. It's best to learn something aggressive that can keep you on your feet -- grappling is GREAT to learn because chances are you'll end up on your back or on the ground at some point, but don't run around trying to drop people to the floor all the time or you'll get your temple stepped on.

8/9/2006 3:45:58 PM

Some of you people act like we like we live in Bosnia and are going to get jumped on the streets every weekend. Do you people enjoy strolls down abandon alleys or something?

8/9/2006 3:52:26 PM

neck strikes and other 'weak' area blows disable someone fast and relatively non-permenant... though you can make them very damaging very quickly....

mcdanger is correct, drop the guy as fast as possible, be alert to surroundings....

most of the predators that would attack you won't if they think they will be a fight...

8/9/2006 3:54:33 PM

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"Some of you people act like we like we live in Bosnia and are going to get jumped on the streets every weekend. Do you people enjoy strolls down abandon alleys or something?"

ya i no rite never learn how to fight, even if you enjoy it as a hobby!

it's best to roll without knowing what the fuck you're doing physically

8/9/2006 4:00:25 PM

^^^^It would be nice if you have powerful punches and a tough chin to stay up but the reality in street fights are most of the time a person goes down after the first meaningful punch (hence why you are always told if you are gonna get in a fight you better throw the first punch) so unless you are sure you are going to make first contact and knock the other guy out you better be versed in some type of grappling.

[Edited on August 9, 2006 at 4:03 PM. Reason : one more ^]

8/9/2006 4:02:41 PM

How many of you have really been in a real street fight? Not some bullshit ego bar fight but I mean like some deranged mofo in an alley is like I'm gonna kill? Puhhlease.

8/9/2006 4:04:16 PM

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"How many of you have really been in a real street fight? Not some bullshit ego bar fight but I mean like some deranged mofo in an alley is like I'm gonna kill? Puhhlease."

The whole point is NOT to get into a real street fight, but if you HAVE to (and you won't have a choice), then to be prepared.

Seriously, you're going to sit here for the next few hours and try to paint us fighting enthusiasts as being idiot meatheads who are trying to prop up our egos. In reality, you're just trying to justify your inadequacies to yourself. Why do you give a fuck what we like to do with our spare time? Go get bent.

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"It would be nice if you have powerful punches and a tough chin to stay up but the reality in street fights are most of the time a person goes down after the first meaningful punch (hence why you are always told if you are gonna get in a fight you better throw the first punch) so unless you are sure you are going to make first contact and knock the other guy out you better be versed in some type of grappling."

Oh naturally, I totally agree. The problem though with some folks is they want to try out their moves, or if they train too heavily in one thing that's what they'll revert to. Dropping to the ground in a random street fight is a piss poor idea unless you absolutely have to.

8/9/2006 4:08:17 PM

I got no problem if thats your hobby. I'm an MMA fan. And I think its great way to get in shape and an awesome art when you fight another person in the ring. But you guys are talking like there is some sort of street war going on.

8/9/2006 4:12:07 PM

No, we're talking about what's effective in the format of getting jumped.

Fighting is heavily influenced by format.

What is your point? You suck at reading.

8/9/2006 4:12:59 PM

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"Best method to avoid a fight. Walk away. Best method of staying alive. Run away."

amen brother

8/9/2006 4:13:58 PM

Sometimes it's not wise to turn your back on a dude that looks like he might attack you. Especially a dude you don't know.

8/9/2006 4:15:06 PM

shut up faggot

8/9/2006 4:15:52 PM

Bodi

Gonna toss your ass

KEEP IT UP

8/9/2006 4:16:43 PM

honestly i've always wanted to take a boxing class

if i ever get some money i think i might

8/9/2006 4:18:07 PM

Boxing is not a good format for us white folk.

8/9/2006 4:18:27 PM

thats is cause you are too short faggot!

8/9/2006 4:20:28 PM

sorry about the words.

the following is dialogue via email i had with jason culbreth, owner of crossfit-nc and a bjj instructor.

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"Mr. Culbreth, I hope this note finds you and Crossfit-NC well. To be concise, the reason I am writing is to open up a dialogue between Crossfit-NC and North Carolina State University in hopes of building a mutually beneficial, informal or formal, relationship between the two. As a thin guy and a rising senior at the University I have been searching for ways to increase my mass and strength and it wasn’t until the end of the last semester that my friends and I happened upon Crossfit’s WODs. Since then, we have been hooked, hoping to God we are doing exercises correctly by following the videos and slideshows on the Crossfit Web site. One of the largest University message boards in the country exists here at NC State and I can tell you just from the threads posted on fitness that students are looking for workout regimens that actually work. I am surprised when they say they haven’t heard of Crossfit. Even more so, with the popularity of UFC and Pride these days, many are looking to test the MMA waters, some specifically in BJJ. I have referred those with interest to you guys’ site after researching through the help of my stepmother (she trains in BJJ in the United Arab Emirates) and father (26 years in special forces before retiring to take on contract work-he studies both in and out of the country). From both my personal situation to the replies from those I refer, complaints center around price and distance, both of which are at a premium for the average college student. To this end, I just want to see if there are any possibilities of outreach from Crossfit-NC to the University, whether it be in setting up a satellite site (im sure the University could accommodate you in some type of facility) or through a student discount. As a public relations major currently interning with one of the largest independent firms in the country, I am sure any action you take to form a relationship with the students at the universities in the area would pay dividends in the long run as you will come to find out that many of these students will stay in the area after graduation. While I understand that this may be a very random request, I would love to be able to train in BJJ on campus and see the Crossfit workout spread amongst my peers. If little else, I will continue to recommend you and the workout you represent to those who inquire. "

his reply

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"Thanks for the information. We have a number of students here at CF that go to NC state and have actually had several of the PE teachers here over the summer training here at CF. We would love to figure out a way to set up a BJJ club on campus where the students could train at a discounted rate a couple of days per week. If the university would be interested in supporting the CrossFit workouts that would be fantastic as well. The trick is to get the administration to buy into the programs and the offerings to the students. Any ideass or suggestions would be fantastic."

my reply

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"Mr Culbreth, As you have indicated, since you have students already working out and training with you guys I think the most effective way to get the foot into the door is to leverage those students status into ambassador types of positions. I think a good way to do that is to find some really motivated students and prompt them to consider starting a BJJ club at school; in this way not only can they get funding from the school (although minimal) through appropriations, but it also might take out a lot of the logistic cramps of trying to get an outside organization involved with the university. I have worked with Student Government (responsible for appropriations) and many administrators so I would be glad to look into creating a BJJ club on campus. "

waiting on his reply.

thoughts on a BJJ club on campus?

8/9/2006 4:23:41 PM

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"It would be nice if you have powerful punches and a tough chin to stay up but the reality in street fights are most of the time a person goes down after the first meaningful punch (hence why you are always told if you are gonna get in a fight you better throw the first punch) so unless you are sure you are going to make first contact and knock the other guy out you better be versed in some type of grappling."

Guys, as i stated before, I DO BOXING ALREADY, and there is no way in hell you gonna get close to my chin nigga, i work out with tennis balls and shit

However, tryin to punch a 300punder (with biceps the size of my your thighs )till you knock him out while maintaining correct boxing format+protection+balance (unless you can get him with an upper cut early on) TAKES TIME.

Thats why the best way to deal with the fuckers bigger than you, is to get them on the ground, and kicking the face,

ALL I want to learn now is how to get big fuckers on the ground.


[Edited on August 9, 2006 at 4:38 PM. Reason : /]

8/9/2006 4:35:13 PM

man, someone sucks at google

8/9/2006 4:36:56 PM

good job man, i was thinkin about this a while ago

i figured id rather brush up on my wrestling, take muay thai and kempo, and then for the ground judo

those are the skills im most interested in knowing

8/9/2006 5:03:34 PM

I've thought about taking some mma for quite a long time. I just haven't gotten to it.

8/9/2006 8:13:31 PM

didn't read the entire thread so sorry if this has been posted. But Crossfitnc.com teaches it, I think you have to be a member of the gym itself though. It's part of the Gracie system, as in the Gracies actually come there every now and then and do seminars and testing. The guys who run it I think used to work at REMA and they are part of the Team ROC fight team.

8/10/2006 12:10:35 AM

im gonna start sparring with my police homies

8/10/2006 1:02:55 AM

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"thoughts on a BJJ club on campus?"

there was one for a while but i think its gone

8/10/2006 1:04:50 AM

thats what culbreth tells me...im thinking the problem with a BJJ club is getting permission to use a campus facility (the gym) to train in a sport that has a high potential for injury, leaving the school liable. Also, pay for training from an outside organization might get hairy, but im sure if the club just charge dues and then paid Crossfit trainers to come out and perform "workshops" it would be plausible to pass that by admin.

again, thoughts and ideas on/for a successful BJJ club on campus?

8/10/2006 2:01:35 PM

^ shit if you wonna make one count me in, 50-100$ aent a problem

meanwhile, i am gonna visit REMA for a free introductory class to get a feel of thier program

8/10/2006 2:04:43 PM

i think a big problem was using the judo club mats

8/10/2006 2:04:53 PM

were members of the judo club pricks about it or was it a time conflict or something?

^^let me know what you think of REMA

[Edited on August 10, 2006 at 2:15 PM. Reason : ^]

8/10/2006 2:09:27 PM