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Shadowrunner
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Just got this in my inbox from coworkers...

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"Due to heightened airport security restrictions implemented by Homeland Security (effective immediately), you should expect lengthy delays at all US airports and note the following stringent guidelines for carry-on items:
Laptop computers, cell phones, and Blackberry or Blackberry-style devices may not be carried through security; they must be in checked baggage

Liquid items may be packed in checked baggage, but will not be allowed in carry-ons

Any passengers who attempt to carry liquid items through security will be asked to dump those items out, regardless of what they are (except for the exclusions noted below)

All shoes, regardless of make or model, must be removed and passed through the X-ray machines

Prescription medicine will be permitted on board, even in liquid form, provided that the name on the prescription bottle matches the name of the passenger

Baby food and formula will be allowed for passengers traveling with babies, but is subject to inspection by security officials
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These rules seem to be inconsistently applied. I just got through ATL airport security. Computers, blackberries and cell phones seemed to be going through security without problems.

Toothpaste, deodorant, perfume, water, lipstick, hair gel, hairspray, contact lens solution and baby formula were all things we saw confiscated this morning."


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"I just made it through Laguardia with BB, cell phone, and computer, but had to check roller bag with toiletries. Security lines here are 2-3 hours, though. "

8/10/2006 9:56:33 AM

mootduff
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turn on the news

8/10/2006 9:59:30 AM

Shadowrunner
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that's in the UK, nuckah

8/10/2006 10:02:38 AM

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but the flights were coming here

8/10/2006 10:03:19 AM

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**edit, so wait, this is only for UK flights?

i just got a travel advisory from work too

about only essentials , passports and wallets allowed on carry ons in transparent bags


mother fuck,

ive got 4 flights scheduled this weekend.

and i hadnt planned on checking anything, till now

[Edited on August 10, 2006 at 10:05 AM. Reason : e]

8/10/2006 10:04:34 AM

Shadowrunner
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so if the flights were coming here from the UK, and they caught the guys, why are they then confiscating toothpaste and hair gel at every US airport?

8/10/2006 10:06:46 AM

mootduff
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because they arent sure they have completely eliminated the entire threat

8/10/2006 10:08:04 AM

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so if we don't want to check our bags, are toiletries a no-go?

8/10/2006 10:09:18 AM

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From our travel advisory notice, it appears as if all flights orignating in the UK have been restricted to NO CARRY ONS, only being allowed to carry on your wallet and passport in a baggie essentially.

Also, our company has suspended any travel that is not already pending to or from the UK untill next week.

interesting.

8/10/2006 10:09:41 AM

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that's what it sounds like, but still not sure if it's just UK flights, or all domestics as well

8/10/2006 10:09:55 AM

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I hope it doesnt effect my domestic flight tommorow.

It was already going to be cutting it close as to getting to the airport on time after work


Out of PHL, not RDU

[Edited on August 10, 2006 at 10:12 AM. Reason : e]

8/10/2006 10:11:19 AM

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yea i fly next week to las vegas. Hopefully everything will be cleared up by then

8/10/2006 10:12:27 AM

pilgrimshoes
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Ive got 5 flights in the next 4 days.

8/10/2006 10:13:14 AM

Shadowrunner
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yeah, toiletries are a no-go right now for domestic flights. we'll see how long it lasts, I imagine they'll want to try and roll the restrictions back as soon as they can, to avoid even worse delays tomorrow for business travellers coming home for the weekend. so maybe you'll be lucky, but it doesn't look good right now.

8/10/2006 10:13:44 AM

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argh.

i may just cancel the trip to raliegh for the weekend and only take the business flights to texas and back.

it may not be worth the hassel tommorow.

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"In addition, the threat level has been raised to "high," or orange for all commercial flights operating in or coming to the United States, the DHS said.

The nation's overall terror threat level has not been altered.

Thursday was the first time the DHS has raised the threat level for a specific group of flights.

"Due to the nature of the threat revealed by this investigation, we are prohibiting any liquids, including beverages, hair gels, and lotions from being carried on the airplane," a DHS statement said.

While there is no indication of plotting within the United States, Chertoff issued a statement saying "we cannot be sure that the threat has been entirely eliminated or the plot completely thwarted."

That means airline passengers around the country should show up at least two hours early for all flights, an official with the Transportation Security Administration told CNN.

"Travelers should go about their plans confidently, while maintaining vigilance in their surroundings and exercising patience with screening and security officials," Chertoff said.

"

8/10/2006 10:17:28 AM

Shadowrunner
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I proclaim this to be completely useless and unnecessary. If they find a hazardous substance in anyone's hair gel bottle, I'll send pilgrimshoes a six-pack.

8/10/2006 10:22:23 AM

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hah, i dont know if id rather win that six-pack or not

8/10/2006 10:23:27 AM

Shadowrunner
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i was in dallas the last two fridays; thankfully i'm on a local project this week.

just got this one, as an fyi for anyone who does have to fly today. revise your baggage, and make sure you check in online if you can with your airline.

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"Protecting the Aviation System.  The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) will be implementing a series of security measures – some visible and some not visible – to ensure the security of the traveling public and the Nation's transportation system.  TSA is immediately implementing following changes to airport screening procedures:
NO LIQUIDS OR GELS OF ANY KIND WILL BE PERMITTED IN CARRY-ON BAGGAGE. ITEMS MUST BE IN CHECKED BAGGAGE. This includes all beverages, shampoo, suntan lotion, creams, tooth paste, hair gel, and other items of similar consistency.
Exception: Baby formula, breast milk, or juice if a baby or small child is traveling; prescription medicine with a name that matches the passenger’s ticket; and insulin and essential other non-prescription medicines
Beverages purchased in the sterile area must be consumed before boarding because they will not be permitted onboard the aircraft.
Passengers traveling from the U.K. to the U.S. will be subject to a more extensive screening process.
Some measures will not be visible to the public. In light of the elevated threat level, the Federal Air Marshals Service (FAMS) will provide expanded mission coverage for flights from the United Kingdom to the United States.
These measures will be constantly evaluated and updated when circumstances warrant.  DHS and its components have coordinated closely with the air carrier industry, airports, and state and local stakeholders to implement these significant, but necessary, security measures.  The traveling public can assist these agencies in carrying out their important security duties by:
Packing lightly, without clutter to facilitate easier screening.
Check with your air carrier well before your flight departs for information on when you shoudl arrive at the airport.
Cooperating with TSA personnel at all checkpoints and gates because TSA Security Officers will be checking carry-on baggage at the gate.
Being attentive and vigilant to any suspicious activity.
Protecting U.S.Borders.  U.S. Customs and Border Protection will increase enforcement efforts in international arrival areas including the use of advanced targeting tools, special response teams including baggage and aircraft search teams, baggage x-ray equipment, specially-trained canine units, and explosive detection technology. "


[Edited on August 10, 2006 at 10:31 AM. Reason : us flight info, not uk]

8/10/2006 10:28:58 AM

OmarBadu
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i'll let this go for a bit longer - but no need for multiple threads on this one thing

[Edited on August 10, 2006 at 10:50 AM. Reason : .]

8/10/2006 10:43:53 AM

wilso
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fuck fuck fuck

i have to fly to england and then to sweden on monday.

8/10/2006 10:57:06 AM

Shadowrunner
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"i'll let this go for a bit longer - but no need for multiple threads on this one thing"


i had seen the other Lounge thread about the terror plot in the UK, but made a new thread anyway so it could have a title that would better alert people who might be flying in the US; thought that would be more helpful and reach more people if there was a new thread in the lounge about it with a title directly about airport security

[Edited on August 10, 2006 at 11:08 AM. Reason : ]

8/10/2006 11:03:34 AM

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/10/us.security/index.html

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"U.S. official: Six to 10 flights targeted
* White House: Plot was "direct threat" to U.S.
* Plan in final stages and "suggestive of an al Qaeda plot," Homeland Secretary Chertoff says
* U.S. threat level raised to red, the highest level, for flights originating in UK
* Plot involved hiding liquid explosives in carry-on luggage, U.S. officials said"


Statistically speaking, how likely is it for the same method/technique to be used successively in a short period of time vs. a longer period of time? I find it interesting there's usually a raised alert level of some sort, and then after a period of time things calm down, restrictions are loosened, and the possibility remains again.

8/10/2006 11:04:13 AM

Crede
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man I hate checking my fucking luggage, especially when I'm flying non-revenue.

8/10/2006 11:04:56 AM

OmarBadu
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that's the world we live in perlith - people don't want to deal with the troubles of security but they want to be safe

8/10/2006 11:05:03 AM

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self pwnt

[Edited on August 10, 2006 at 11:16 AM. Reason : a]

8/10/2006 11:12:29 AM

OmarBadu
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you think any of that was fabricated? which part?

8/10/2006 11:13:17 AM

Lewizzle
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Nevermind I didn't read the whole thread.

8/10/2006 11:15:55 AM

Shadowrunner
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"Police said they were still raiding businesses and homes, and Chertoff said it was unclear if all suspects were in custody.

Chertoff said the plotters were "getting close to the execution phase."

"There were very concrete steps under way to execute all elements of the plan," he said.

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Passengers "were not yet sitting on an airplane," but were very close to traveling, a senior U.S. counterterrorism official told The Associated Press.

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While there is no indication of plotting within the United States, Chertoff issued a statement saying "we cannot be sure that the threat has been entirely eliminated or the plot completely thwarted."

That means airline passengers around the country should show up at least two hours early for all flights, an official with the Transportation Security Administration told CNN.
"


So it's not like they were actively raiding people at the airport, or caught anyone with these explosive liquids going through security; this still hadn't even happened yet. So why the big fuss at all at the airport today, just because you caught the guys doing it? Just in case someone was planning on doing it today as a dry run, to let the rest of the guys know if it worked? Just in case one of them got away and figures they could bump up the execution of a highly sophisticated plot that they weren't quite ready for yet by grabbing a ticket to the US today?

THIS SOME BULLSHIT

CLAP CLAP, CLAPCLAPCLAP

8/10/2006 11:19:52 AM

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"Statistically speaking, how likely is it for the same method/technique to be used successively in a short period of time vs. a longer period of time?"


I would think that they are trying to stop terrorist missions that are being executed at the same time or staggered or copycats.

[Edited on August 10, 2006 at 11:22 AM. Reason : time]

8/10/2006 11:22:00 AM

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going to Chicago tomorrow

going to wear flip flops, tank top, gym shorts, and carry my passport, credit card, and a $20 bill

errthing else gets checked in

8/10/2006 11:26:30 AM

Lewizzle
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Sru why your cousins gotta be schemin'!

8/10/2006 11:27:58 AM

OmarBadu
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"going to Chicago tomorrow

going to wear flip flops, tank top, gym shorts, and carry my passport, credit card, and a $20 bill

errthing else gets checked in"


yeah i've got 2 ppl coming into ord today (1 from rdu - 1 from slc) - and 1 tomorrow morning from rdu - i hope they all make it relatively close to on-time - but doubtful

8/10/2006 11:49:41 AM

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drive!

8/10/2006 11:50:07 AM

wilso
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no carry-ons for any flights going to or from the UK.

no gels or liquids in your carry-on.

pretty much have to show up to the airport naked.

8/10/2006 12:07:07 PM

Shadowrunner
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i hear tomorrow you'll have to pee in a cup before you board to prove that your piss isn't explosive.

8/10/2006 12:19:15 PM

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I'm flying out of Miami to Raleigh tomorrow. I heard they cancelled some of the international flights to South America. I am not looking forward to going through Miami International Airport tomorrow.

8/10/2006 12:24:03 PM

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^^^ What are you doing in Sweden?

8/10/2006 2:00:28 PM

ActionPants
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This crap better be cleared up in two months that's all I got to say

8/10/2006 2:09:52 PM

OmarBadu
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it's already mostly cleared up - o'hare and rdu security lines are a breeze already - it will be fixed by tomorrow it sounds like right now

8/10/2006 2:11:27 PM

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Oh well that's good

I hope I can have carryon luggage the next time I fly too

8/10/2006 2:15:53 PM

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"Prescription medicine will be permitted on board, even in liquid form, provided that the name on the prescription bottle matches the name of the passenger"


Awesome, lets just tell the terrorists how to bypass security.

8/10/2006 2:42:16 PM

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Anyone else you hear that about the latops/cellphones not being allowed? I'm flying from RDU to Hilo saturday and ATA sent me an e-mail about the no liquids thing, but nothing about laptops/cellphones.

8/10/2006 2:44:56 PM

OmarBadu
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there is no way they can ban cellphones/laptops - too many business travellers - just liquids

8/10/2006 2:47:04 PM

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tha'ts bullshit they aren't allowing cell phones... if i hadn't had my cell phone on me when i flew back from NY my dad would have been waiting in charlotte for me for 2 hours when my flight was delayed

8/10/2006 2:47:14 PM

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The electronics ban is only on flights originating in britain.

8/10/2006 2:48:38 PM

wilso
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"^^^ What are you doing in Sweden?"

i'm studying @ Lund for the fall.

8/10/2006 7:11:40 PM

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i can't believe they barred lotion (well I can, but that sucks). It gets way too dry on the plane to not have any.

8/10/2006 8:23:10 PM

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i think hyoulll be able to live for a few hours

8/10/2006 8:39:34 PM

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"so if the flights were coming here from the UK, and they caught the guys, why are they then confiscating toothpaste and hair gel at every US airport?

"


Politics. THey need people to be afraid to maintain and expand control.

8/10/2006 8:42:49 PM

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"tha'ts bullshit they aren't allowing cell phones... if i hadn't had my cell phone on me when i flew back from NY my dad would have been waiting in charlotte for me for 2 hours when my flight was delayed"


way to read somtehing on the wolfweb and not double check it yourself before responding to it, filthy whore

8/10/2006 8:43:29 PM

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