Rookie of the Year:
AL: Tough choice now because Liriano is out, I'd have to go with Verlander (liriano, jered weaver and papelbon will all be in the running)
NL: Josh Johnson

MVP:
AL: gotta to go with Big Papi (i know he's a DH but his good numbers are too hard to pass up)
NL: Pujols

Manager of the Year:
AL: definitely Leyland
NL: Willie Randolph

Rolaids Relief Pitcher of the Year:
AL: Papelbon (although Rivera can make a late run)
NL: Wagner

Cy Young:
AL: Johan Santana
NL: Zambrano

Douchebags of the Year:
Teixeira and Jeff Kent (both picks killed my fantasy squad this year)


i'm probably leaving out someone and maybe another award
so input and discussion are necessary

8/17/2006 5:26:11 AM

Jeff Kent was hot for like 3 weeks in May.

8/17/2006 9:42:30 AM

Rolaids Relief Pitcher of the Year: Rietsma

8/17/2006 9:43:08 AM

Rookie of the Year:
AL: Pappelbon. The dude's ERA is like 0.90
NL: Josh Johnson

MVP:
AL: Derek Jeter
NL: Carlos Beltran

Manager of the Year:
AL: Leyland
NL: Joe Girardi

Rolaids Relief Pitcher of the Year:
AL: Rivera
NL: Wagner

Cy Young:
AL: Roy Halliday
NL: Zambrano

8/17/2006 9:46:20 AM

Verlander for ROY and CY

8/17/2006 11:22:41 AM

Rookie of the Year:
AL: Pappelbon. The dude's ERA is like 0.90
NL: Josh Johnson

MVP:
AL: Joe Mauer (no chance in reality, but so important to that Twins team)
NL: Poo-holes

Manager of the Year:
AL: Leyland
NL: Jerry Narron

Rolaids Relief Pitcher of the Year: Isn't this award based on stats and not voting?
AL: Papelbon
NL: Hoffman

Cy Young:
AL: Johan Santana
NL: Brandon Webb (if D-Backs make playoffs)

8/17/2006 11:33:32 AM

isnt Pappelbon's ERA in the last couple weeks like 4.90?

course theres still 40 games left in the season...

8/17/2006 12:19:29 PM

ever since varitek got hurt, the whole team's ERA went up
papelbon's ERA has been around 3.5 since varitek got hurt
he had a good outing last night versus the tigers; 1-2-3 inning and the save


i think you'll get a good glimpse at who's gonna be the AL relief pitcher of the year and the MVP this weekend when the red sox play the yankees

8/17/2006 10:17:52 PM

I can't find it but I was the ONLY one to pick Josh Johnson as ROY and now everyone has.

Where is the thread with predictions in it?

8/17/2006 10:30:11 PM

Rookie of the Year:
AL: Papelbon. Boston is not in the playoff race without this kid. To close in that type of atmosphere as a rookie is sensational. (Should've been Liriano had he not gotten hurt)
NL: Ryan Zimmerman. Probably leads most if not all rookies in HR, RBIs and he's done most of his best hitting late in games. Clutch.

MVP:
AL: David Ortiz. Most clutch player I've seen in a long time. Leads majors in most power categories. Nuff said.
NL: Carlos Beltran. Leader of best team in NL, has been consistently good all year.

Manager of the Year:
AL: Leyland. No arguing here.
NL: Joe Girardi. With a payroll less than what 5 Yankees players make by themselves, he still has the team within wild card distance. Basically a Triple-A team with Cabrera and Willis being exceptions.

Rolaids Relief Pitcher of the Year:
AL: Rivera. Papelbon is close but Rivera is still the cream of the crop.
NL: Wagner. Has struggled this year but so has every other NL closer. Saito has been lights out for Dodgers but only inherited the job after Gagne went down, not enough opportunities.

Cy Young:
AL: Santana. Still the best pitcher out there. Filthy stuff, plays in hardest division in baseball and still dominates hitters.
NL: Zambrano. How he's been so good this year playing for that team is amazing. He deserves it but won't get it because of that fact. Will prob go to Webb or Schmidt.

8/17/2006 10:46:42 PM

Quote :

"NL: Zambrano. How he's been so good this year playing for that team is amazing. He deserves it but won't get it because of that fact. Will prob go to Webb or Schmidt. "

dude has walked like 100 batters this year

8/17/2006 10:49:33 PM

^^Schmidt will NOT get the Cy Young.

Carpenter has came on strong and should finish good and compete to repeat.

Quote :

"NL: Joe Girardi. With a payroll less than what 5 Yankees players make by themselves, he still has the team within wild card distance. Basically a Triple-A team with Cabrera and Willis being exceptions."

I agree with this. He will not win though because nobody really cares about the Marlins and its sad.

8/17/2006 10:52:01 PM

I think Schmidt has just as good a chance as either Webb or Carpenter. They all have very similar numbers with the exception of wins. But the Giants always make a late push every year. If neither Giants nor Dbacks make playoffs, it will probably go to Carpenter.

8/17/2006 11:09:30 PM

^schmidt is 9-7 on a team that is in last place; he has no chance at Cy Young
carpenter has a small chance and the Cy Young will be between Webb and Zambrano
Zambrano is 13-5 on a shitty team with much more Ks than anyone in the NL
and Webb has been solid all year


and...

Quote :

"I can't find it but I was the ONLY one to pick Josh Johnson as ROY and now everyone has. "

i started this thread by picking josh johnson as rookie of the year

[Edited on August 17, 2006 at 11:40 PM. Reason : asdf]

8/17/2006 11:36:40 PM

Rookie of the Year:
AL: Justin Verlander
NL: Ryan Zimmerman

MVP:
AL: David Ortiz
NL: Carlos Beltran

Manager of the Year:
AL: Jim Leyland
NL: Girardi (though I really wanted to say Willie)

Rolaids Relief Pitcher of the Year:
AL: BJ Ryan (has accounted for fewer losses then anyone in the AL at the closer position)
NL: Billy Wagner (best of a very undistinguished group of NL closers)

Cy Young:
AL: Johan Santana, Justin Verlander, Roy Halladay (take your pick)
NL: Brandon Webb (though if he falters and Johnson wins 5-6 more it's close IMO)

8/18/2006 12:07:24 AM

^ryan zimmerman is another name i left out

i'd almost have to go with him over josh johnson even though both have been very good

8/18/2006 12:13:47 AM

^^^I was talking about a thread that was on here a while back.

I picked Johnson while everyone else said Uggla.

But nice choice anyhow.

8/18/2006 2:04:58 AM

bttt

8/19/2006 11:03:42 AM

Jarad Weaver is making a strong case for ROY now.

9-0 is pretty damn good.

8/19/2006 11:26:32 AM

how has weaver only been mentioned twice in this thread

8/19/2006 11:28:30 AM

^Because everyone has constantly sucked off Verlander and Liriano.

Verlander just because he throws a 100 MPH. Even though he is starting to struggle and lost his last outing.

Liriano is hurt now and lost his only big start against Detroit.

8/19/2006 11:55:17 AM

yea, if Weaver can keep it going and the Angels make the playoffs, he's definitely going to be the leading candidate for ROY

and how about a case for Soriano for NL MVP? he's on pace for 40-40 as a leadoff hitter! provided his team has long given up on the playoffs but he's definitely having his career year despite not having much lineup protection.

8/19/2006 12:08:12 PM

^i agree with soriano, i like beltran as well

8/19/2006 12:14:37 PM

i don't know who i'd give the comeback player of the year award to

but i'm pretty sure i'd give chris reitsma the please don't come back award

8/19/2006 1:09:16 PM

Quote :

"Because everyone has constantly sucked off Verlander and Liriano. Verlander just because he throws a 100 MPH. Even though he is starting to struggle and lost his last outing. "

I'm waiting to see him go through the league the second time. If he can prove that he can do that then he will be the frontrunner. Frankly, I don't think he'll be near as good as either Verlander or Liriano. They both dominate with their stuff. Weaver dominates more with a deceptive release, which is much easier to adjust to then dominant stuff..

[Edited on August 19, 2006 at 1:15 PM. Reason : ^ Borowski?]

8/19/2006 1:15:15 PM

Rookie of the Year:
AL: verlander
NL: i still like dan uggla but he won't win

MVP:
AL: ortiz if the sox make the playoffs, jeter if they don't
NL: beltran

Manager of the Year:
AL: leyland
NL: girardi, willie randolph doesn't deserve shit, a fucking cheeseburger could manage that team and win 100 games

Rolaids Relief Pitcher of the Year:
AL: papelbon
NL: wagner, there isn't anyone who really stands out in the NL

Cy Young:
AL: santana, i have a man crush on johan
NL: brandon webb, toss up

8/19/2006 1:19:44 PM

Quote :

"Verlander just because he throws a 100 MPH. Even though he is starting to struggle and lost his last outing. "

start paying attention to what is going on

he has pitched his last 2 games with a blister on his middle finger

against the sox he could only throw a fatball and changeup because of his blister

get your shit straight

8/19/2006 1:52:15 PM

^Dude take your Tiger blinders off and be honest.

When Liriano got hurt and pitched bad you were all over it because he lost to the Tigers and you said it was because he faced a good team.

Quote :

"against the sox he could only throw a fatball and changeup because of his blister"

That's about all he throws anyway. I mean when you throw 100, there are not many other choices.

8/19/2006 5:33:18 PM

Quote :

"and how about a case for Soriano for NL MVP? he's on pace for 40-40 as a leadoff hitter! provided his team has long given up on the playoffs but he's definitely having his career year despite not having much lineup protection."

i would agree with the fact that he has the numbers to get the MVP
although, it has been proven many years that the best hitting player doesn't always win the MVP and you must be on a playoff team to have a good chance at the MVP

i'd say jeter for AL MVP now
and i got stick with pujols in the NL; beltran is probably 2nd in the running right now though

8/19/2006 6:51:23 PM

Quote :

"That's about all he throws anyway. I mean when you throw 100, there are not many other choices. "

jesus, you cant make an arguement if you dont know the player you are talking about

verlander throws a knuckle curve, a circle change, a slider and a 4 seam fastball

8/19/2006 7:52:33 PM

There is MAYBE 4-5 people on here that actually know what they are talking about on a consistent basis here. Verlander wouldn't have the numbers he has [as a starter] with only two pitches, no matter how hard he throws. You can get away with that out of the pen but not in a rotation in the bigs.

As I said.. Weaver has a deceptive release. It should be interesting to see how the league adjusts to him and what he does.. It's pretty obvious, to me at least, that Liriano and Verlander get by on their stuff more then deception... which is generally better for longterm success...

8/19/2006 8:01:41 PM

Weaver does have to use deception but it doesn't make him any worse of a pitcher. You don't have to throw it at 95+ mph to have success, just ask Greg Maddux. But I do agree that in terms of stuff, Liriano has the nastiest stuff and Verlander has four extremely effective pitches that he can throw for strikes at any time and they are more likely to have more success than Jered. In terms of this year though, with Liriano being out and Verlander already having pitched more innings than his arm EVER has, Weaver has more of a chance to win ROY especially since he did not get into the rotation til Bartolo got hurt. If Weaver should falter his second time around the league and Verlander continues to struggle, Papelbon will sneak it out in my opinion.

8/19/2006 9:10:44 PM

Chris Duncan for NL ROY. Just got named NL player of the week.

If he had just played enough....he is hitting .345 with 14 HRs and 39 RBIs in only 55 games!

Im a little biased but damn if those aren't some numbers.

8/22/2006 10:00:55 AM

Pujols and Beltran are dueling it out but Ryan Howard also deserves some consideration for NL MVP. He probably won't get it but he is certainly in the Top 3 w/ Soriano 4th...

Beltran likely will win since the Mets have all but clinched the best record in the NL (10 games up on the league) and there is a very real chance he will break the alltime major league record for XBH in a year for a CFer... (Held by Hack Wilson and Willie Mays)

** Oh and I know the fact that Pujols missed some time is always brought up but he only has roughly 20 ABs less then Beltran.. that is pretty negligible..

[Edited on August 23, 2006 at 4:11 PM. Reason : x]

8/23/2006 4:09:27 PM

NL MVP debate: Pujols or Howard?
NL Cy Young: Carpenter or Webb?
AL MVP: Papi, Dye, Jeter, Santana, Morneau?
AL Cy Young: Santana, Halladay, Verlander, Garland?
NL ROY: Johnson, Zimmerman, Uggla, Ramirez?
AL ROY: Verlander, Weaver, Liriano

What is everyone's thoughts? ST is dead today.

Ive listed them in order I would vote.

9/21/2006 3:09:18 PM

NL MVP: Howard
NL Cy Young: Carpenter
AL MVP: Santana
AL Cy Young: Santana
NL ROY: Zimmerman
AL ROY: Verlander
AL MOY: Jim Leyland
NL MOY: Willie Randolph

9/21/2006 3:15:50 PM

AL manager is Leyland no contest. 2) Gardenhire 3) Macha

NL manager I would go: 1) Girardi 2) Randolph 3) Bochy (Dude never gets respect...I think he is one of the best.)

9/21/2006 3:17:43 PM

i dont see how you can argue against howard for nl mvp.


[Edited on September 21, 2006 at 3:30 PM. Reason : e]

9/21/2006 3:29:50 PM

Rookie of the year Simple
AL Verlander he is the only good rookie STILL playing. and how played a full season
NL Josh Johnson

MVP AL Derek Jeter. Simple reason team won the division unlike Ortiz, plus he actually plays a position. A DH should never win the MVP. If he was the most valuable player he would contribute to defense as well as offense.
MVP NL lets go with Howard he is hitting the most longballs

Relief pitcher
AL Rivera- he is still pitching unlike Papelbon who if he hadn't been shut down early should have won.
NL Wagner

9/21/2006 3:57:15 PM

NL MVP: Ryan Howard
NL Cy Young: Brandon Webb
AL MVP: Derek Jeter
AL Cy Young: Johan Santana
NL ROY: Dan Uggla
AL ROY: Justin Verlander
AL MOY: Jim Leyland
NL MOY: Willie Randolph

9/21/2006 3:59:41 PM

Quote :

"AL manager is Leyland no contest"

if Detroit makes the playoffs as a wildcard team is it still no contest?

9/21/2006 4:05:18 PM

are you insane?

do you not remember how bad this team was in the previous years?

9/21/2006 4:26:43 PM

no i certainly do...hell since 84 (?) when the won the WS, they kinda fell off the map...IIRC they were decent for a couple years with Cecil Fielder...but I'm saying IF they dont hold on to that huge, supposedly unsurpassable AL Central league, and make the playoffs as a wildcard team, or heaven forbid, miss the playoffs if Minn and CHISOX both play out the season well, you have to give consideration to Dodgers, Cincinnatti, Minnesota, etc

if they make the playoffs I'd pretty much agree that it should be him, but the Dodgers had a pretty similar shitty record last year IIRC

9/21/2006 4:45:10 PM

Howard should and will be NL MVP. He's leading the majors in homeruns and RBIs and is batting over .300 withthe phillies primed to make the playoffs if they finish strong.

9/21/2006 4:58:13 PM

^^ How the Dodgers and Reds do has no bearing on whether or not Leyland deserves the AL Manager of the Year. Leyland should win it hands down regardless and the only other managers I think deserve some mention are Gardenhire and Torre.

9/21/2006 5:20:52 PM

oh yeah, manager of the year is AL or NL haha my bad

9/21/2006 5:28:05 PM

Quote :

"i dont see how you can argue against howard for nl mvp."

um...really?

Howard is a damn good hitter, but I think Pujols should win - and I'll try not to be too much of a homer here.

The ONLY areas where Howard has the clear advantage are HR and RBI (important stats to be sure, though not as much as SLG or OBP), and without the injury, Pujols would almost certainly have more RBI, and probably 50-something homers.

Pujols, on the other hand, has a higher OBP, BA, and (incredibly, despite having 11 fewer HR) a higher SLG%. He also has more game-winning hits/HR/RBI, fields his position better, has 6 stolen bases to Howard's 0 (which is indicative of how aggressively he runs the bases, which I haven't seen Howard display), and more runs scored - remember, 17 fewer games. He's also hitting .397 with runners in scoring position, while Howard is hitting .239 in the same situation.
Furthermore, Pujols kept the Cardinals in it dealing with injuries to Rolen, Edmonds, Carpenter, and Eckstein.

But I think the most eye-popping statistics is this: Howard's walk-to-strikeout ratio is 94:170, while Pujols' is 84:44. For those keeping track, that's MORE HOME RUNS THAN STRIKEOUTS. I would almost say I don't see how you can argue against Pujols for MVP.

However, having said that, Howard is exciting, hits the ball a ton, and has carried the Phillies, especially the last month. At this point, I'd say if Philadelphia makes the playoffs it's Howard; otherwise, Pujols gets it.

9/21/2006 5:52:42 PM

Quote :

"i dont see how you can argue against howard for nl mvp."

Quote :

"Howard should and will be NL MVP."

We will see. Pujols has 25 game winning RBIs. That is crazy. Plus he has a MUCH higher BA, OBP, and Slugging. Don't forget he did miss 17 games.

P.S. Albert's team is assuredly in the playoffs, if the Phils don't make it, that might swing things.

[Edited on September 21, 2006 at 6:07 PM. Reason : 17]

9/21/2006 5:54:39 PM

Quote :

"He's also hitting .397 with runners in scoring position, while Howard is hitting .239 in the same situation."

Crash and burn. Sousapickle has my back!

9/21/2006 6:08:21 PM

Quote :

"f he was the most valuable player he would contribute to defense as well as offense."

the only thing ARod contributed to the yanks D last year was total errors.

9/21/2006 6:17:35 PM