http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/23/earlyshow/series/survivor/main1926528.shtml

Quote :

"They will be split into four tribes, but how they will do that is guaranteed to be a talking point. For the 13th installment of the series, producers have yet another controversial way to begin the game: 20 people, four tribes — each divided by race [...] African-American Tribe: # Make-up artist, Rebecca Borman, 34, from Laurelton, N.Y. # Jazz musician and recording artist Sekou Bunch, 45, of Los Angeles # Nursing student Stephannie Favor, 35, of Columbia, S.C. # Retail salesman Nathan Gonzalez, 26, of Los Angeles # Sundra Oakley, 31, an actress from Los Angeles Asian-American Tribe: # Nail salon manager Anh-Tuan "Cao Boi" Bui (pronounced Cowboy), 42, from Christianburg, Va. # Attorney Becky Lee, 28, of Washington, D.C. # Management consultant Yul Kwon, 31, of San Mateo, Calif. # Real estate agent Jenny Guzon-Bae, 36, of Lake Forest, Ill. # Fashion Director Brad Virata, 29, of Los Angeles Hispanic Tribe: # Heavy metal guitarist Billy Garcia, 36, of New York # Professional volleyball player J.P. Calderon, 30, of Marina Del Rey, Calif. # Police officer Cristina Coria, 35, of Los Angeles # Waiter Oscar "Ozzy" Lusth, 25, of Venice, Calif. # Technology risk consultant Cecilia Mansilla, 29, of Oakland, Calif. White Tribe: # Copier salesman Adam Gentry, 28, of San Diego, Calif. # Writer-producer Jonathan Penner, 44, of Los Angeles # Boxer-waitress Parvati Shallow, 23, of Los Angeles # Performer-roller girl Jessica Smith, 27, of Chico, Calif. # Pre-med student Candice Woodcock, 23, of Fayetteville, N.C."

8/23/2006 1:12:07 PM

ibtl/m

8/23/2006 1:12:54 PM

Nah... Surely a debate on the pros/cons of a reality show in which one race is to dominate three others is Soap Box worthy.

8/23/2006 1:14:54 PM

didn't that amazing race show basically do that this past year? i mean they didn't SAY that specifically, but there weren't many (if any?) multiracial teams.

this is just a marketing ploy for a show that's past it's prime. plain and simple.

8/23/2006 1:17:30 PM

This is actually the show's death knell.

This will not sell.

It will not last.

This will be pulled.

8/23/2006 1:18:55 PM

Survivor: Strom Thurmond Style

8/23/2006 2:20:49 PM

What, no midget team?

8/23/2006 9:46:10 PM

shipwrecked (the british show) is so much better
if you have bbc america its worth watching

8/23/2006 9:47:29 PM

I wish I could make my own survivoresque show

there would be no challenges or luxury items or tribes or other lame bullshit

and you lose when you starve to death

8/23/2006 10:48:11 PM

Quote :

"# Pre-med student Candice Woodcock, 23, of Fayetteville, N.C."

wood.

cock.

lol.

8/23/2006 11:35:17 PM

Quote :

"African-American Tribe: # Make-up artist, Rebecca Borman, 34, from Laurelton, N.Y. # Jazz musician and recording artist Sekou Bunch, 45, of Los Angeles # Nursing student Stephannie Favor, 35, of Columbia, S.C. # Retail salesman Nathan Gonzalez, 26, of Los Angeles # Sundra Oakley, 31, an actress from Los Angeles Asian-American Tribe: # Nail salon manager Anh-Tuan "Cao Boi" Bui (pronounced Cowboy), 42, from Christianburg, Va. # Attorney Becky Lee, 28, of Washington, D.C. # Management consultant Yul Kwon, 31, of San Mateo, Calif. # Real estate agent Jenny Guzon-Bae, 36, of Lake Forest, Ill. # Fashion Director Brad Virata, 29, of Los Angeles"

That will go great unless they have some kind of swimming or car racing challenge.

8/24/2006 12:26:57 AM

8/24/2006 12:39:18 AM

if the blacks win, it will be business as usual in competitions
if the asians or hispanics win, it will be a nice suprise, but some will complain about it being "rigged"
if the whites win, we'll here tons of douchebag racists (both sides) coming out of the woodworks to talk about white supremacy or the contest being rigged

terrible idea. F-

8/24/2006 12:46:34 AM

african american?
white?

how about

Black

or

European American


i want my rights damnit!!

8/24/2006 9:49:04 AM

this is hilarious... capitalizing off of racial tensions. How is this different from SI Swimsuit edition? Making money off of pure aesthetic qualities.


I think this will be a great social experiment. I'll be watching.

8/24/2006 9:51:33 AM

i'm not familiar with the competition. what kind of tasks do they have to perform?

if i had to make a blind bet, my money's on the Azns.

8/24/2006 10:14:32 AM

nah, they'd out smart em. I have my money on the hispanics. They can jump fences, run, swim... they can do it all... plus they're hard working people and loyal.

8/24/2006 10:19:11 AM

Worst idea for television since letting tv viewers marry a couple.

8/24/2006 10:33:07 AM

Quote :

"This is actually the show's death knell."

Here's to hoping that it takes the rest of the reality shows with it.

8/24/2006 10:45:09 AM

Life is like a reality show, only without the slick editing and commericals.

8/24/2006 10:48:43 AM

My hissing cockroach lunch from yesterday has got my cholesterol down.

8/24/2006 10:51:33 AM

I think this will be interesting.

8/24/2006 10:55:33 AM

I can picture what's going to happen when the final players get all together.

All the whites are gonna get voted out.

Another reason to not care about reality shows.

12 of the 20 are Californian.

[Edited on August 24, 2006 at 5:42 PM. Reason : /]

8/24/2006 5:41:01 PM

As long as there isn't any kind of basketball competition we should be ok.

8/24/2006 5:42:34 PM

who gives a shit, they're all built good looking people. Race isnt going to matter.

8/24/2006 6:18:20 PM

*DRAGNET MUSIC*

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060825/D8JN5GH01.html

Quote :

"NYC Officials Want New 'Survivor' Pulled NEW YORK (AP) - As CBS prepares to launch a new season of the hit reality show "Survivor," this time featuring teams divided by race, enraged city officials are saying it promotes divisiveness and are calling for the network to reconsider. "The idea of having a battle of the races is preposterous," City Councilman John Liu said Thursday. "How could anybody be so desperate for ratings?" For the first portion of the 13th season of "Survivor," which premieres Sept. 14, the contestants competing for the $1 million prize while stranded on the Cook Islands in the South Pacific will be divided into four teams - blacks, Asians, Latinos and whites. Liu, who is Asian-American, said he was launching a campaign urging CBS to pull the show because it could encourage racial division and promote negative typecasts. He and a coalition of officials, including the council's black, Latino and Asian caucus, planned to rally at City Hall on Friday. ..."

Don't ask for whom the bell tolls...

8/25/2006 6:29:33 PM

As a black or other minority this is probably the most even its ever been for them, because before it was usually like 6 hot young white bitches, 6 young white studs, 2 old white guys, 1 old white lady, and then 1 black guy, 1 black girl, and maybe 1 asian or hispanic guy or girl. Now the whites will be just 25% of the total cast. This is the list of winners racially:

6 white guys
4 white ladies
1 black lady
1 latino lady

So if your of a minority race this might seem like its highlighting race more, which is true, but its also giving you a MUCH greater chance of winning too, so I wouldn't complain a fucking bit. Instead of just being the token black guy or asian lady, now you've got other people like you, so you don't feel like your the fucking outcast in the tribe, and the sacrificial lamb at tribal council.

Also funny to note that of these winners, one white guy (Hatch) is in prison, another got fired from his job for lying about why he wanted the time off, and another is in jail under charges he killed a tame bear in a cage with a bow and arrow. Crazy crackas. Haha.

8/25/2006 8:10:26 PM

does anyone else think this is more like real life than having token minorities on reality tv shows

8/25/2006 9:18:52 PM

real life 60 years ago

8/25/2006 9:23:14 PM

i would say that self segregation is still very very real

[Edited on August 25, 2006 at 9:24 PM. Reason : did you not go to public schools?]

8/25/2006 9:24:13 PM

this isnt self-segregation

8/25/2006 9:24:34 PM

i never said that
i said this represents real life (self segregation) more accurately

8/25/2006 9:25:10 PM

more accurately then what?

8/25/2006 9:25:45 PM

having one or two minorities thrown in so no one gets mad

[Edited on August 25, 2006 at 9:26 PM. Reason : one]

8/25/2006 9:26:31 PM

why aren't the Hispanics called Hispanic-American?

8/26/2006 11:13:50 AM

^Hispanics come from the Americas. So I guess Hispanic-American is redundant.

8/26/2006 5:37:15 PM

this show is gonna be huge

you guys know about as much as tv ratings as you do about politics

8/28/2006 10:37:53 AM

^x4 Let me get this straight. They have 25% of each race and this is somehow a better representation of reality than having more whites than minorities? Why are minorities minorities? If they wanted it to be closer to reality there would be about 7 whites, 1 black, 1 latino, and about one third of an asian person.

8/28/2006 11:00:10 AM

^Of course. He's not saying the numbers mirror reality. He's saying the segregation mirrors reality. But he's also making the mistake of calling it self-segregation.

8/28/2006 2:03:34 PM

Quote :

"this show is gonna be huge you guys know about as much as tv ratings as you do about politics"

the last season was #11, and the season before was #8.

the show is on a big decline.

8/28/2006 2:06:41 PM

^^no, he's not saying that.

how are you people not getting his point?

[Edited on August 28, 2006 at 2:07 PM. Reason : ^^]

8/28/2006 2:06:43 PM

^^i think this show might create some race riots but i think the ratings will be big

8/28/2006 2:08:23 PM

8/28/2006 2:09:47 PM

dang no indians WTF

8/28/2006 3:47:28 PM

Quote :

"theDuke866: ^^no, he's not saying that. how are you people not getting his point?"

Fill me in, please.

8/29/2006 2:21:34 AM

I thought his point was twofold.

1) That the people on Survivor are paired up such that they are segregated and (for all I know) will work together as members of the same race. This reflects some of the self segregation in society in that people of the same race tend to interact more with people of their same race than they do with people of other races.

2) It's nice to see more minorities on Survivor as opposed to the token few that are only on the show to keep the NAACP off their back. This was the point I was addressing...

I'm not sure how these two points are supposed to be related to the same argument.

8/29/2006 7:20:15 AM