http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f1Idgh5KUw

Quote :

"DEAN: The lead researcher in this field told me, he said, I look at the numbers in the United States, and I see about 23 percent of the population who are pure right-wing authoritarian followers. They‘re not going to change. They‘re going to march over the cliff. The best thing to deal with them—and they‘re growing. And they have tremendous influence on Republican politics. The best thing, the best defense is understanding them, to realize what they‘re doing, how they‘re doing it, and how they operate. Then it can be kept in perspective, then they can be seen for what they are."

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"OLBERMANN: Give me an example. (INAUDIBLE) in other words, not getting away with it was the—was a result of it too? DEAN: Take Gordon Liddy and his following whatever Nixon want, even (INAUDIBLE) anything he wants. Salute, yes, sir, let‘s do it. OLBERMANN: And the story that he has told about you, (INAUDIBLE) and you‘ve told about him, about his saying, I have all this knowledge in my brain that could bring the president of the United States down, tell me to go and stand on a corner, and—what was the rest of it? DEAN: Tell me where you want me shot. He said, I don‘t want you shooting me in my house, because I‘ve got children. But shoot me on the street corner. That‘s a loyal right-wing authoritarian follower in action, at the extreme. OLBERMANN: You‘ve been a historian, you‘ve been a part of history, you‘ve been to the (INAUDIBLE) -- one of the central moments of history in the 20th century. What kind of danger—are we facing a legitimate threat to the concept of democracy in this country? DEAN: I don‘t think we are in a fascist road right now. We are so close to it, though, Keith, that‘s why I wrote the book, because I want people to understand exactly what is going on, and why it‘s going on."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13816491/

This may have been posted before, but I did a search and couldn't find it.

I would not include GrumpyGOP and a few others in this group of 23 percenters.

8/25/2006 1:31:28 PM

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"I don‘t think we are in a fascist road right now. We are so close to it, though, Keith, that‘s why I wrote the book, because I want people to understand exactly what is going on, and why it‘s going on."

Or it could just be scare tactics so that he can bad mouth conservatives and sell copies of his book.

8/25/2006 2:09:33 PM

I wonder why he didn't mention the hordes of followers of the left-wing agenda. Oh, that would hurt his argument.

8/25/2006 2:21:33 PM

The problem with liberals and the Democratic party is that they have too many leaders and not enough followers.

8/25/2006 2:25:46 PM

So are you a leader or a follower, pryderi?

8/25/2006 2:29:21 PM

those are the choices?

8/25/2006 2:31:47 PM

i think, as far as the soap box goes, that I hate Josh#s more than I have ever hated any other poster

that includes sailburysteak and steve#s

[Edited on August 25, 2006 at 2:35 PM. Reason : .]

8/25/2006 2:34:06 PM

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"So are you a leader or a follower, pryderi?"

I swing both ways.

8/25/2006 2:37:31 PM

Quote :

"The problem with liberals and the Democratic party is that they have too many leaders and not enough followers."

this quote basically sums up the problem with democrats and liberals. and this mentality explains why they have not won an election in a decade....

whenever pryderi comes around again i always think the same thing....just keep it up man..please

8/25/2006 2:43:55 PM

If the soapbox was a floor it would be fucking spotless. You know, because of all the sweeping generalizations.

8/25/2006 3:56:39 PM

ba dum ching

but yeah

8/25/2006 3:59:03 PM

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

8/25/2006 4:10:57 PM

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"i think, as far as the soap box goes, that I hate Josh#s more than I have ever hated any other poster that includes sailburysteak and steve#s "

goal.

8/25/2006 4:15:37 PM

I like how you used commets from Howard Dean to prove this ridiculous point. He's only dug your party full of anti-war lemmings deeper into the ground.

8/25/2006 5:49:09 PM

war is good

8/25/2006 6:10:31 PM

and good = god

8/25/2006 6:11:01 PM

im glad we didnt get involved in WW2

8/25/2006 6:11:07 PM

^^^ You could base an entire forum on the topic of how easy that premise is to sell to people.

[Edited on August 25, 2006 at 6:12 PM. Reason : (or movie...Catch-22 did it pretty well)]

8/25/2006 6:11:38 PM

someone like 4 months ago told me that wars are only done to influence the world economy or something

something like the US is getting involved in all this shit to have an excuse to spend money on, and then when the wars over we are stronger as a nation

idk something along those lines...the main jist of what the person told me was that wars are fought to influence the world economies or something

8/25/2006 6:14:46 PM

good thing we didnt fight in the Revolutionary War

8/25/2006 6:19:00 PM

oh sure

none of us would have a biased opinion about that

what a douche

8/25/2006 6:21:48 PM

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"im glad we didnt get involved in WW2 "

god knows democrats were trying to cut and run then too

but thank god truman stood up to those nay-sayers in the 4 year battle of normandy

[Edited on August 25, 2006 at 6:22 PM. Reason : dgfhfdgh]

8/25/2006 6:22:27 PM

it seems to me that republicans do things, democrats do them right

8/25/2006 6:28:00 PM

The word "fascist" gets thrown around way to often. "Corporate Fascism" and "Islamo-Fascism" are 2 terms that should never have been invented.

8/25/2006 6:52:01 PM

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"it seems to me that republicans do things, democrats do them right delegate to the UN"

8/25/2006 7:06:25 PM

you tell em, whitey.

8/25/2006 7:08:10 PM

^^thank god they dont have control, or else we'd be bombed by terrorists every day w/ their "global test" on fighting terror.

8/25/2006 7:17:11 PM

the rest of the world lost its battle against terror. notice how everyone else is getting fucked 8 different ways by usama.

8/25/2006 7:22:15 PM

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"god knows democrats were trying to cut and run then too but thank god truman stood up to those nay-sayers in the 4 year battle of normandy "

Are you really a moron?

8/25/2006 7:23:18 PM

o yea is was roosevelt

8/25/2006 7:44:23 PM

ever wonder why its so easy to get all the right wing pundits to spout the latest talking point in lock step?

its that natural authoritarian nature to obey and serve.

8/25/2006 9:19:57 PM

honestly i'm all geared up for world war 3

i think its gonna be tough but the us will be victorious

can we start rationing shit out now?

[Edited on August 25, 2006 at 11:14 PM. Reason : .]

8/25/2006 11:12:55 PM

lets start with capitalism

8/25/2006 11:20:17 PM

Quote :

"and this mentality explains why they have not won an election in a decade...."

Uh, what?

I don't want to blow your fucking mind, but I'm pretty sure the Dems have won at least one presidential election in the past decade.

8/26/2006 1:07:06 AM

jimmy carter won in 96

8/26/2006 1:24:07 AM

According to the Mises Institute, BOTH parties advocate elements of fascism. That includes FDR, who's National Recovery Administration was based upon Mussolini's corporatives in Italy, or state-supervised trade associations.
"Italy was one of the places that Franklin Roosevelt looked to for ideas in 1933. Roosevelt's National Recovery Act (NRA) attempted to cartelize the American economy just as Mussolini had cartelized Italy's. Under the NRA Roosevelt established industry-wide boards with the power to set and enforce prices, wages, and other terms of employment, production, and distribution for all companies in an industry. Through the Agricultural Adjustment Act the government exercised similar control over farmers."
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.html

8/26/2006 8:52:12 AM

[Edited on August 26, 2006 at 8:55 AM. Reason : -]

8/26/2006 8:55:34 AM