http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Kidnapped-Fox-reporters-freed-in-Gaza/2006/08/27/1156617210332.html

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" The two reporters were seized on August 14 by a previously unknown group called the Holy Jihad Brigades. In a videotape released earlier, Centanni and Wiig were shown separately sitting cross-legged, reading statements announcing that they had converted to Islam. At times in the video they were wearing long Muslim robes. "I changed my name to Khaled. I have embraced Islam and say the word Allah," Centanni said. freed soon. ............. A separate statement from the captors had said the two journalists had to chose either Islam, a tax imposed on non-Muslims to be paid to a Muslim ruler, or war. "

What are the odds that O'Reilly calls them cowards for giving in?

[Edited on August 27, 2006 at 12:17 PM. Reason : ;']

8/27/2006 12:16:14 PM

dj khaled

8/27/2006 12:20:02 PM

Now if they can just geeet the hell out of there, get home, and then convert back to whatever they were before.

8/27/2006 12:23:16 PM

i'd keep the name and reject the beliefs. Khaled is a cool name.

8/27/2006 12:34:09 PM

Haha the second I stepped off of a plane onto American soil I'd take an on-camera dump on the Koran.

8/27/2006 12:36:41 PM

^ hear hear, so would I, that's hillarious

"yea i converted, LOL idiots"

[Edited on August 27, 2006 at 12:44 PM. Reason : s]

8/27/2006 12:44:44 PM

might not be that cut and dry

this might be a case of Stockhom syndrome

kind of like those oil workers that got kidnapped in Nigeria

8/27/2006 12:50:28 PM

"We were forced to convert to Islam at gunpoint," Centanni later told Fox. "Don't get me wrong here. I have the highest respect for Islam, and I learned a lot of good things about it, but it was something we felt we had to do because they had the guns, and we didn't know what the hell was going on."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/08/27/state/n100851D90.DTL&type=politics

doesn't really sound like stockholm syndrome to me.

8/27/2006 1:45:39 PM

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"this might be a case of Stockhom syndrome"

you obviously don't know anything about stockholme syndrome

8/27/2006 1:47:16 PM

8/27/2006 2:03:02 PM

Now since they have "renounced" Islam, shouldn't any good Muslim feel it is their duty to kill them for betraying the faith? Wasn't that the deal about the guy in Afghanistan who they were going to kill for becoming a Christian? I believe I recall a statement saying that anybody who converts from Islam shall be killed for it. Am I right on that one?

8/27/2006 3:20:42 PM

What's really important here is that the Hamas-led government denounced the kidnappings. Of course, that fact would not get a mention in conservative pro-Zionist US media. This group is totally unheard of, and I hope they catch them and cut their balls off.

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"Khaled is a cool name."

Haha, yes it is, however, a Lebanese (originally Palestinian) colleague of my father, who is a US citizen, goes by "Cal", because most Americans can't say the "kh" sound

8/27/2006 3:21:19 PM

^Quit playing your victimization/ biased media card.

The fact that Hamas denounced the kidnappings was well publicized. I read it in the LA Times.

8/27/2006 3:29:17 PM

It's good that Hamas denounced this act, but you kind of have to wonder...would all these little pissant groups exist and do what they do if they didn't have the example of big ones like Hamas to follow? Sure, Hamas doesn't force journalists to convert at gunpoint, but surely you see how it's an easy jump from, "It's OK to blow up women and children" to "Well then it has to be OK to just kidnap and forcibly convert grown men, right?"

8/27/2006 5:18:49 PM

everyone knows hamas denounced this act - NPR reported, NYT reported it, Fox News reported it, CNN reported it, and even USA Today reported it!!

wtf are you talking about "zionist bla bla bla"

8/27/2006 6:01:36 PM

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"you obviously don't know anything about stockholme syndrome"

no, i do

but i jumped to an ill-fated conclusion

8/27/2006 7:28:29 PM

you obviously don't know anything about stockholme.

8/28/2006 7:52:44 AM

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""We were forced to convert to Islam at gunpoint," Centanni later told Fox. "Don't get me wrong here. I have the highest respect for Islam, and I learned a lot of good things about it..."

...like the virtues of gunpoint conversion.

...but mostly we learned bad things about it.

...I mean, even though we later rejected the hell out of it, I want to make sure that I say just enough good things about it so people don't come after us again.

8/28/2006 8:00:21 AM

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"...like the virtues of gunpoint conversion."

irrespective of other bad things most people see in it, ^ isn't a part of islam.

these people should have their balls cut off.

8/28/2006 8:32:44 AM

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"these people should have their balls cut off."

which, incidentally IS a part of Islam

8/28/2006 9:01:36 AM

haha, no it isn't!

unless you are talking about "an eye for an eye". if you attack me and cut my balls off, yes, the state would cut your balls off as punishment!

8/28/2006 9:35:30 AM

never mind

[Edited on August 28, 2006 at 9:47 AM. Reason : damn]

8/28/2006 9:47:31 AM

I added the so you could see I was just kidding.

8/28/2006 9:48:24 AM

These militants make Gary the brickyard preacher look intelligent.

8/28/2006 2:19:50 PM

i think gary is intelligent. he creates a stir, and gets people talking. i assume this is his intention.

i completely disagree with him on about everything, but i don't think he's particularly dumb.

8/28/2006 2:22:14 PM

THROW THEM BACK...

8/28/2006 3:23:24 PM

We don't negotiate with terrorists.......unless they have kidnapped people from Fox News.

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"Report: U.S. Secretly Negotiated with Gaza Kidnappers August 29, 2006 3:14 PM Hoda Osman Reports: The U.S. secretly agreed to the "real demands" set by the group behind the August 14 kidnapping of two Fox News journalists in Gaza, according to a report in the pan-Arab newspaper al Hayat. The paper quotes "informed sources close to the mediations" as saying that the U.S. secretly negotiated with the group through leaders of "the Palestinian popular resistance committees." Last week, the previously unknown group calling itself "The Holy Jihad Brigades" issued a statement demanding the release of all Muslims held in U.S. prisons in return for the release of the two journalists. In fact, the paper reports that the public demand was not serious and that the group's "real demands" were that the U.S. press Israel to reopen the Rafah border crossing between Egypt and Palestine and cease the shelling of "Palestinian activists'" residences. According to the report, the mediators contacted a representative of a European country who in turn contacted U.S. and British diplomats. The paper's sources said in the report that members of a senior FBI delegation, who had arrived in the area a few days earlier, were also involved in the negotiations. The announcement that the two journalists had converted to Islam as a reason for their release was only a camouflage to conceal the fact that the U.S. had agreed to the hostage-takers' demands, according to the sources cited in the article. A few days ago the Rafah crossing was reopened for a few hours daily, and the Israeli forces stopped shelling residences of activists in the past few days, noted the paper's sources. When asked for a response by ABCNews.com, a State Department spokesperson refused to comment on the report in al Hayat. The department's stated policy has been that the United States does not negotiate with terrorists. "

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/08/report_us_secre.html

8/30/2006 9:25:49 AM

oh man, what a dilemma you tools have now

8/30/2006 9:39:51 AM

i would never renounce my own religion

8/30/2006 9:44:43 AM

how ironic fox news employees converting islam. Bill O'Reiley is not amused

8/30/2006 1:36:31 PM

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"i would never renounce my own religion"

Yea have fun getting your fucking head cut off, idiot.

8/30/2006 1:39:56 PM

Honestly, we shouldn't negotiate with terrorists.

But that is something we were (or at least should) have been working towards anyway as part of our overall peace plan.

Its not like its "giving in to terrorists" if they kidnap someone and demand we keep McDonald's open 24/7 and we don't close McD's now is it?

But still, I don't like us working at all with terrorists, so if that negotiation wasn't already taking place on any level and we suddenly brought it up, I have a problem with it.

Also, maybe if terrorists started making reasonable demands like "Try to stop the killing of innocent civilians" I don't have quite as much a problem with is as "release all women prisoners and send us some tanks"

8/30/2006 1:40:45 PM

Is there any corrobration for that blog's assertion?

8/31/2006 11:01:46 AM

is there a "create your muslim jihadist name" thread?

9/1/2006 6:49:50 PM

using that mcd's analogy... i wonder was hit released post hearing word of this happening in isreal. I know we didnt hear it, but if there sitting there wouldnt they know its gonna happen earlier? then they released a statement saying they gave in, b/c if there aim is to damage us, this would do far more damage than two people who would be forgotten given time. this leads to the spawning of more groups who are given false hope we will give in?

9/2/2006 9:27:54 AM

to save my life i would have "converted" to islam

and as soon as i got back to the states resumed my atheist practices

9/2/2006 11:50:40 AM

dude

i TOTALLY had my fingers crossed

9/2/2006 1:07:45 PM

lol

9/2/2006 2:21:56 PM