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"Q Okay. There's so much emphasis by the President on his resolve and on the consequences of failure, which seems to dovetail to the political strategy of casting the vote as not a referendum on his leadership or his conduct in the war on terror, leading the war on terror, but on a choice between two parties and their visions. And I'm curious whether, in this document, there's any reflection on the fact that this White House, this administration failed to anticipate a violent terrorist-based insurgency in Iraq, and also failed to adapt once it learned of its presence? And shouldn't that be put before the voters this fall? MR. SNOW: I think you've admirably expressed the Democratic point of view, but I don't think -- Q Actually, Tony, I don't think that's fair, if you look at the facts. If you look at the facts. MR. SNOW: Well, I do, because -- no, because, for instance -- Q No, no, no. No, I don't think you should be able to just wipe that, kind of dismiss the question -- MR. SNOW: Well, let me -- Q It's not a Democratic argument, Tony. MR. SNOW: Let me answer the question, David. Q But hold on, let's not let you get away with saying that's a Democratic argument. MR. SNOW: Okay, let me -- let's not let you get away with being rude. Let me just answer the question, and you can come back at me. Q Excuse me. Don't point your finger at me. I'm not being rude. MR. SNOW: Yes, you are. Q Don't try to dismiss me as making a Democratic argument, Tony, when I'm speaking fact. MR. SNOW: Well, okay -- well, no -- Q You can do that to the Democrats; don't do it to me. MR. SNOW: No, I'm doing it to you because the second part was factually tendentious, okay? Now, when you were talking about the fact that it failed to adapt, that's just flat wrong. And you will be -- there has been -- there have been repeated attempts to try to adapt to military realities, to diplomatic realities, to development of new weapons and tools on the part of al Qaeda, including the very creative use of the Internet..."

waaaah cry like a little bitch David Gregory - you got called the FUCK out!

9/5/2006 8:46:18 PM

lol

9/5/2006 8:50:48 PM

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"this administration failed to anticipate a violent terrorist-based insurgency in Iraq, and also failed to adapt once it learned of its presence? And shouldn't that be put before the voters this fall?"

This is factually wrong?

9/5/2006 9:28:12 PM

^

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"Now, when you were talking about the fact that it failed to adapt, that's just flat wrong."

Critical Reading 101

Student: Pryderi

Grade: D-

9/5/2006 9:35:18 PM

1 out of 2 ain't bad

9/5/2006 9:42:11 PM

^

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"Now, when you were talking about the fact that it failed to adapt, that's just flat wrong."

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"Critical Reading 101 Student: Pryderi Grade: D-"

Um...Tony Snow can say anything he damn well wants to, but it doesn't mean it's true.

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"Q If you want to challenge that presumption -- no, no, wait a second. If you want to challenge that presumption, why don't you describe in some detail how you accurately anticipated the insurgency, and what was done to deal with it at the time."

9/5/2006 11:00:11 PM

great thread, it shows the ineptness of the typical liberal argument. i can only hope that soon we will be able to flush them down the toilet for good.

9/5/2006 11:08:32 PM

If you read the press briefing, Snow never answered the question.

David Gregory won.

9/5/2006 11:34:33 PM

haha....owned...completely owned...

and yes pryderi...that was factually wrong....

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"failed to adapt once it learned of its presence"

that, sir, is factually incorrect...and that is why DG got called out like a little punk....its typical of dems to try to slide this in to make the situation look worse than it is...and he got called out...plain and simple



[Edited on September 5, 2006 at 11:48 PM. Reason : asdf]

9/5/2006 11:43:56 PM

actually, Snow is the one being a dick by making a smarmy jab at the dude's question having "expressed the Democratic point of view"

9/5/2006 11:49:12 PM

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"expressed the Democratic point of view"

thats exactly what he did

9/5/2006 11:51:13 PM

really, did he say that?

did he say, oh by the way, this is the democratic point of view

Snow was being a dick

9/5/2006 11:53:51 PM

haha...right....

and if castro asked "but shouldnt the government just give the peopel everything they need because capitalism is evil??"...he wouldnt be asking from the communist point of view...


snow wins....DG looks like a moron

9/5/2006 11:57:31 PM

they were both being douchebags

9/5/2006 11:57:34 PM

^^ really, like anybody gives a RATS ASS about whatever the fuck this is

daily presidential press confrences

i mean, who is David Gregory?

and I only know Snow from being a douche on Fox

you act like anybody fucking cares

9/6/2006 12:02:38 AM

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"its typical of dems to try to slide this in to make the situation look worse than it is...and he got called out...plain and simple"

yeah, democrats REALLY need to "slide this in" as you say, to make things look worse in iraq.

YEAH.

9/6/2006 12:14:47 AM

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"and yes pryderi...that was factually wrong...."

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"failed to adapt once it learned of its presence"

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"that, sir, is factually incorrect..."

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""The level of activity that we see today from a military standpoint, I think, will clearly decline. I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency.""

--Cheney June, 2005

9/6/2006 12:48:31 AM

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"there has been -- there have been repeated attempts to try to adapt "

what i wouldnt give for successful actual adaption and not attempted adaption.

9/6/2006 3:36:52 AM

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"^^ really, like anybody gives a RATS ASS about whatever the fuck this is daily presidential press confrences i mean, who is David Gregory? and I only know Snow from being a douche on Fox you act like anybody fucking cares "

kinda defensive arent we??...and you obviuosly care, chief...thats why you are here bashing now and defending DG.....

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"The level of activity that we see today from a military standpoint, I think, will clearly decline. I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency"

whats wrong with this? other than its wrong....no one is saying that the administration hasnt botched some things...but to suggest that no alterations have been made at all is a decmocratic talking point and is, in fact, factually incorrect

[Edited on September 6, 2006 at 7:09 AM. Reason : asdf]

9/6/2006 7:06:45 AM

mission accomplished

9/6/2006 8:06:10 AM

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"i mean, who is David Gregory? "

the white house correspondent for NBC news.

9/6/2006 8:26:40 AM

and they say the mainstream media isn't liberal.... and this is still going on today - just imagine what it was like before the internet and FOX news could hold the big networks accountable for their bias

9/6/2006 8:45:22 AM

>0 >0

9/6/2006 9:21:11 AM

0< 0<

9/6/2006 9:47:18 AM

from what I see Tony Snow dodged the question

9/6/2006 10:00:43 AM

its all about the spin.

someone could have just as easily made a thread about the same discussion titled "Tony Snow Called the F*CK out!!"

9/6/2006 10:11:36 AM

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"but to suggest that no alterations have been made at all is a decmocratic talking point and is, in fact, factually incorrect "

Ok trikk. Since you claim to know the facts, I want you to answer the following question.

Describe in some detail the ways the Bush administration accurately anticipate the insurgency, and what was done to deal with it at the time?

[Edited on September 6, 2006 at 11:51 AM. Reason : .]

9/6/2006 11:49:50 AM

bush has down syndrome

i like to blame him for everything and call him stupid

gore got robbed in 2000

9/6/2006 11:54:52 AM

Anyone who blames the administration for Iraq or deviates from the conservative veiwpoint has to be a liberal.

9/6/2006 11:57:05 AM

anyone who spends more time complaining about why we went to war instead of realizing that we are at war, and that the reason why doesnt change the fact that we are at war, is a dummy

9/6/2006 11:58:27 AM

The war against liberals!

9/6/2006 12:01:43 PM

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"anyone who spends more time complaining about why we went to war instead of realizing that we are at war, and that the reason why doesnt change the fact that we are at war, is a dummy"

I want us to win this war, and I want to know how this administration is accomplishing the victory.

9/6/2006 12:07:43 PM

by Staying the Course and not Cutting and Running because we Support Our Troops

9/6/2006 12:08:36 PM

Ok. Tell me what is the course that we're staying on?

[Edited on September 6, 2006 at 12:12 PM. Reason : .]

9/6/2006 12:12:13 PM

trying to establish a democracy in Iraq

9/6/2006 12:14:34 PM

So, if you were driving down a road that would eventually lead to a cliff, , would you stay the course or try to find an alternative? Hey, let's all drive off the cliff, and stay the course! It's the only way!

9/6/2006 12:14:52 PM

Further evidence that the Soap Box has become 100% worthless.

9/6/2006 12:16:41 PM

^^what a great and relevant analogy!

[Edited on September 6, 2006 at 12:16 PM. Reason : ^^]

9/6/2006 12:16:44 PM

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"by Staying the Course and not Cutting and Running because we Support Our Troops"

someone watches the Colbert Report.

9/6/2006 12:31:54 PM

The only factual error is I see is that he forgot to include the word "well".

It failed to adapt well to the insurgency.

9/6/2006 12:39:56 PM

^exactly what i was going to say.

9/6/2006 12:45:44 PM

^^^someone else watches the Colbert Report

9/6/2006 12:51:55 PM

i dont watch the liberal propaganda, sorry.

9/6/2006 1:09:17 PM

just a lucky guess on your part that he used that same phrase or some very slight derivation?

9/6/2006 1:10:03 PM

yup.

9/6/2006 1:11:10 PM

must be your conservative intuition

9/6/2006 1:14:41 PM

its a black and white world, baby.

9/6/2006 1:16:38 PM

once we kill off all the arabs and mexicans

9/6/2006 1:17:17 PM

asians

9/6/2006 1:31:50 PM

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"trying to establish a democracy in Iraq"

We've done that. Iraq has had elections and have a Constitution. Mission Accomplished!

9/6/2006 3:02:25 PM