http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/6484042/wo/Wv2bAmJ1qnWX26ssGsV1vxIKJCV/0.PSLID?mco=BC302A9&nclm=iMac

I really want to get a 24inch iMac so bad!

9/6/2006 9:01:39 AM

eh, oops. US store link http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/0.RSLID?mco=C1B6232E&nclm=iMac

9/6/2006 9:42:08 AM

for $2000:

24-inch widescreen LCD
1920x1200 resolution
2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor1
4MB shared L2 cache
1GB memory (2x512MB SO-DIMM)
250GB Serial ATA hard drive2
8x double-layer SuperDrive (DVD+R DL, DVD±RW, CD-RW)
NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT with 128MB GDDR3 memory
Built-in AirPort Extreme and Bluetooth 2.0
Apple Remote

getting closer, apple, getting closer

9/6/2006 10:28:23 AM

good thing they have a cult like following, otherwise with these prices I'd think they would have gone bankrupt a long time ago

9/6/2006 11:03:10 AM

^ "these prices" are considerably lower than they've ever been. Your argument may have held up in the past, but it's not very valid any more. Some Apples are still priced at a premium, but the Minis, the MacBooks,and the Pros are competitively prices with their PC equivalents. The MacBook Pros and iMacs are not far behind now.

9/6/2006 11:12:40 AM

That 24inch is pretty sweet. The only thing I have against it is just that it's an all-in-one. That monitor is fantastic and will last a hell of a lot longer than the internals (or, at least, will last beyond the point where I'd want (not need, though) to upgrade). I just wouldn't be able to justify throwing away that monitor just because I wanted to get a next-generation graphics card or something.



Good upgrade on their minis, too.

9/6/2006 11:28:20 AM

9/6/2006 11:40:19 AM

maybe one day all non-audio/video companies will use mac's instead of PC's...but not anytime soon

9/6/2006 11:40:50 AM

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""these prices" are considerably lower than they've ever been."

oh, i agree...macs are WAY more competitive now than ever...but as mentioned, i hate these all-in-one systems because they're nearly impossible to upgrade easily

9/6/2006 11:58:02 AM

the price point of the imac isnt that much different from other premium computer makers, like sony with their all in one http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_BrowseCatalog-Start;sid=HBeCdY3SA7-AIMktMUCIfsLfV420GU1Eo9Y=?CategoryName=cpu_lsseriesdesktops&Dept=computers&INT=sstyle-VAIODesktop-tophero-LS_series

9/6/2006 4:20:15 PM

Sony sucks shit and overcharges for it.

9/6/2006 4:22:42 PM

^ agreed...as much as i hate apple, i wouldn't put them on the same crap level as sony

9/6/2006 4:34:55 PM

at least a dell is upgradable... it doesn't appear to be easy to upgrade an imac. price has def. come down.

9/6/2006 4:43:24 PM

it's not that hard to upgrade an imac. I have one and it's been pretty simple. guess it just depends on what you want to do really

9/6/2006 4:50:38 PM

Lucky for apple, the vast majority of consumers will never even try to upgrade a computer.

That being sad, macpros, macbooks, and macbook pro's aren't that bad in terms of upgrading ram, the most common kind of upgrade people actually bother with. The only problem with the macpro is extremely tight clustering of the ram modules, which supposedly require the more easily cooled dimms from apple. Anyone know if that's true though? Does the ram really get THAT hot? The macpro's graphics card is also fairly easy to access.

The all-in-one systems aren't really targetted at anyone who'd want a system they could upgrade. For the most part they're not targeted at people who even want to open a computer up.

[Edited on September 6, 2006 at 4:53 PM. Reason : ]

9/6/2006 4:50:57 PM

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"Does the ram really get THAT hot?"

yes - it uses new Fully Buffered DIMMs, which get very hot and have to have specalized heat spreaders

and in regards to "people who normally wouldn't upgrade anyway" - i would disagree when it comes to the new 24" iMac. People who would be getting a 24" screen would be professionals - website designers, coders..... people with money. i would say they would be interested in upgrading sometimes. The 17" and somewhat the 20" iMacs I would agree - those would be more of the casual users, but i doubt many casual users would even consider getting a 24" screen.
I agree with tl that if i bought a 24" screen, I would expect to use it for years to come across several computers. Even with a new iMac, i probably wouldn't use it for more than 2.5 years, but with that awesome 24" screen it's be such a waste to give it up.

9/6/2006 4:59:58 PM

i would take an apple laptop any fucking day over a sony

now, then , or ever

9/6/2006 6:28:33 PM

i'm not talking about memory, hard drive upgradability, pretty much anybody can do that and those two have come to be expected....

in a dell you can also upgrade the psu, cpu, gpu, cdrom, expansion slots, etc.. etc...

^^you brought up some good points about the integrated screen, you're pretty much as screwed as a laptop owner when it comes to hardware problems... and with a seperate 24" screen you can keep it for YEARS and use it with future computers.

9/6/2006 6:44:46 PM

that 24" one looks mighty nice, and is priced right too

thankfully I don't need a new computer to spend money on

9/6/2006 6:45:35 PM

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"maybe one day all non-audio/video companies will use mac's instead of PC's...but not anytime soon"

That'd be terrible.

Nice of them to couple the 24" monitor with a shit video card.

9/6/2006 7:46:27 PM

there's a reason why it's considered to be a mid-level consumer machine. you don't get top-of-the line everything. if you want a massive system with a massive graphics card, that's when you'd buy a Mac Pro desktop.

9/6/2006 8:20:13 PM

9/6/2006 8:25:27 PM

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"mid-level consumer machine."

A $2,000 "mid-level consumer machine".

Right.

9/7/2006 1:39:53 AM

I have to admit that it's a fairly expensive all-in-one and that's a really nice monitor to be saddling with hardware that can't be replaced. That being said, this is a computer that most people would be fine using for 4-5 years for office software, ilife, and web browsing. Does it make sense to spend 2000 bucks for something like that? Well not for me, because I'd never buy an all-in one and I probably wouldn't spend close to that on a pre-built machine. Will it be a hit with some demographic? Apple's betting it will. It does fill a gap between the mac mini and mac pro for those looking for larger screens but not willing to spend 3000+ to get it. Some would argue that plenty of dells, hp's, and alienwares fill that gap too, but we all know that Apple's OS and marketting still seperate it from any of those products in most consumers' minds.

9/7/2006 7:16:13 AM

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"It does fill a gap between the mac mini and mac pro for those looking for larger screens but not willing to spend 3000+ to get it."

Who would even consider paying $3,000 for a computer these days?

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"but we all know that Apple's OS and marketting still seperate it from any of those products in most Apple consumers' minds"

[Edited on September 7, 2006 at 8:34 AM. Reason : .]

[Edited on September 7, 2006 at 8:34 AM. Reason : .]

9/7/2006 8:33:04 AM

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"Who would even consider paying $3,000 for a computer these days?"

A lot of people. How the hell do you think companies like alienware, voodoopc, falcon northwest, etc. stay in buisness... Seriously. Just because you don't have use for a quad core $3000+ machine, doesn't mean there's not a lot (or at least enough) people who do. Then there's the people who can be tricked into thinking they need it...

9/7/2006 2:35:24 PM

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"A lot of people. How the hell do you think companies like alienware, voodoopc, falcon northwest, etc. stay in buisness... Seriously. Just because you don't have use for a quad core $3000+ machine, doesn't mean there's not a lot (or at least enough) people who do. Then there's the people who can be tricked into thinking they need it..."

You are naming off high end gaming machine companies. No one buys a fucking IMac to play video games. I mean look at the Mac version of the 7600GT, it has SDRAM haha. What a joke. God I hate macs and everyone that thinks they are cool because they own one.



[Edited on September 7, 2006 at 3:05 PM. Reason : .]

9/7/2006 2:58:51 PM

What, do you think I'm comparing an alienware system to an iMac? Are you drunk? With the exception of falcon northwest, each of those companies make and sell high end workstations as well. That's what the macpro is. To that end it's actually price competitive to comparable dells.

Nobody buys an iMac to buy games you say? No shit shirlock. They're also not generally $3000. If you had read the thread you'd know that the $3000+ macs refer to the macpros, and the imacs fill a gap between that and the mac mini far below it.

[Edited on September 7, 2006 at 3:31 PM. Reason : ]

9/7/2006 3:31:14 PM

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" I mean look at the Mac version of the 7600GT, it has SDRAM haha"

Most cards have that, it's GDDR3 SDRAM.

9/7/2006 3:40:32 PM

no where in there does it say GDDR3, if it does they should put it in there.



[Edited on September 7, 2006 at 4:35 PM. Reason : .]

9/7/2006 4:34:55 PM

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"Then there's the people who can be tricked into thinking they need it..."

They're the same people who can be tricked into overpaying for a computer.

So, basically, idiots.

Or, sorry,

Apple customers.

9/7/2006 5:04:32 PM

If there's just one thing I hate about that comic, it's the line, "Yep, no thinly-coated subliminal imagery here at all." WTF? Coated, subliminal imagery? Apple's not trying to "trick" you into thinking Macs are young and hip and PCs are old and nerdy; they're pretty much shoving it down your throat. "OMG I just realized that what Apple was trying to do! They were trying to trick us into associating PCs with old, lonely nerds! OMFG I'm smart for discovering that!!"

9/7/2006 5:15:46 PM

I don't think Apple is going to be tricking anybody new at this price-point. I would think the target demographic pays a premium because its an all in one, its aesthetically pleasing, and they think its a status symbol. People buying this probably drop the $2000 without even looking at the specs.

9/7/2006 5:43:33 PM

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"no where in there does it say GDDR3, if it does they should put it in there. "

I guess it would be too much to ask that someone to clearly intelligent as yourself (I mean you clearly see right through the tricks Apple is pulling) to click on the link for the tech specs wouldn't it?

http://www.apple.com/imac/specs.html

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"Graphics and Video 17-inch model with 1.83GHz processor Intel GMA 950 graphics processor with 64MB of DDR2 SDRAM shared with main memory 17-inch model with 2.0GHz processor and 20-inch model ATI Radeon X1600 graphics processor using PCI Express 128MB of GDDR3 SDRAM Optional 256MB of GDDR3 SDRAM on 20-inch model 24-inch model NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT graphics processor with 128MB of GDDR3 SDRAM using PCI Express Optional NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT graphics processor with 256MB of GDDR3 SDRAM using PCI Express"

9/7/2006 8:19:25 PM

i'm confused as to what you think it would have instead of SDRAM....

9/7/2006 9:22:19 PM

RDRAM!!

9/7/2006 9:38:49 PM

Ari has one of those. He was going to break the shit out of it but Lloyd reminded him it was a rental.

9/7/2006 9:58:07 PM

^ /thread

9/8/2006 6:40:31 AM