Too bad they won't do shit to USC

9/15/2006 9:17:42 AM

at least you titled the thread correctly

9/15/2006 9:21:14 AM

This pisses me off. There should be serious, massive consequences to both him and the school.

Like a year's suspension or something, and Bush should be made to pay insane amounts of money -- to none other than a general scholarship fund for the Cal Bears

9/15/2006 9:21:57 AM

^ Why USC? They did nothing wrong as far as we know except not knowing about it (same as the NCAA) and the individuals in question had no relationship with the school or its boosters.

NCAA is gonna whine and cry, but there's nothing they can do.

9/15/2006 9:28:59 AM

Okay, but forcing Reggie to pay $10 million to build some sweet upgrades to the Cal Bears' staduim and another $10 mil for general scholarship would be lollerskates

9/15/2006 9:29:58 AM

^^ Kind of like when players were selling their shoes behind Jimmy V's back even though he had nothing to do with it...

9/15/2006 9:31:23 AM

you have to punish USC whether they knew about bush or not. There is no way to make the distinction that someone did or did not know in the whole organization

i would think that at State if Mario's family was poor and lived in a crappy house... then all of a sudden they're living in a $3/4 million house - someone would have a suspision at NC State. It wouldn't be like no one would have an idea

if they dont punish USC then another school could get away with paying players and saying they didn't know about it

9/15/2006 9:38:48 AM

isnt that the point of an investigation? to figure out if it was known?

im all about going forward with an investigation, but i think its ridiculous to punish them if they truely didn't have anything to do with it.

9/15/2006 9:41:32 AM

guilty by association

9/15/2006 9:42:08 AM

eh it can go both ways.

they may not have known, but at that level its your job to know.

9/15/2006 9:42:29 AM

"Lack of institutional control"

9/15/2006 9:44:51 AM

according to the article on yahoo that has a lot of evidence of wrong doing, it appears that the running backs coach did know a little something. USC should be punished. Tommy Amaker (sp?) and Michigan bball players were punished for things that none of them did too.

9/15/2006 9:48:52 AM

it's not about who gets pd, its about who gets caught.....most good players are prolly getting a little somethin somethin.

9/15/2006 10:17:20 AM

"What's a matter Bush?"
"Oh coach man.. my mom's is still drivin' this Toyota Camry and it just makes me sad, you know, just thinkin' that she has to drive that Camry everywhere. She always said she wanted a black Hummer H3. I just don't know how I can focus with all that Camry runnin' through my head."

9/15/2006 10:20:06 AM

^ the last line was like flying in a lollercopter

9/15/2006 11:11:23 AM

USC, Notre Dame, and tOSU football are untouchable period, they bring in too much money for the NCAA.

9/15/2006 11:36:37 AM

was his family even poor to begin with

9/15/2006 11:40:53 AM

omg college athletes get paid? call the newspapers!

9/15/2006 12:56:47 PM

UF FSU and Miami are untouchable too

9/15/2006 1:02:11 PM

Go Canes!

9/15/2006 2:25:27 PM

UNC and Duke are untouchable in basketball.

Remember Sean May jokingly referring to the $10k champayne bottle that he got from an alum on National TV after the NC win?

[Edited on September 15, 2006 at 2:34 PM. Reason : .]

9/15/2006 2:32:56 PM

it was his birthday I thought

9/15/2006 3:43:00 PM

This is the classic case of lack of institutional control.

9/15/2006 6:04:37 PM

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"Remember Sean May jokingly referring to the $10k champayne bottle that he got from an alum on National TV after the NC win?"

I don't remember him saying how much it cost, and he said it was from a teammate.

9/15/2006 6:08:11 PM

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""Lack of institutional control""

9/15/2006 6:11:59 PM

may said that the bottle came from roy and then quickly corrected himself

9/15/2006 7:51:13 PM

this cant affect his playing in the pro's can it



because he's on my fantasy team

9/15/2006 7:55:50 PM

No, it'll strip USC of their awards, and could possibly cost Bush his Heisman. Nobody would win it, Bush would just be unable to vote in future Heisman contests. USC could possibly face probation. The extent of the damages actually done to Bush would be repeated proverbial slaps in the face...

9/15/2006 8:05:26 PM

What was that documentary on the NCAA issues at USC and Texas?

Oh that's right:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095409/

9/20/2006 8:58:43 PM

i like how that one faggot ass agent that he didnt pick, narced him out

9/20/2006 9:09:47 PM

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/53083


HAHAHAHAA

9/21/2006 1:56:49 PM

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"Too bad they won't do shit to USC"

just like they didn't do jack to Ohio State.

USC should face some sort of consequences. I have a hard time believing when stuff like this happens, the coaches and everyone with the school boosters are innocent. Someone had to have known.

[Edited on September 21, 2006 at 2:11 PM. Reason : :]

9/21/2006 2:11:48 PM

like someone has already mentioned, i'm sure: it's their JOB to know about this sort of thing. just because they didn't know, doesn't mean they're innocent.

9/21/2006 2:16:20 PM

you know the head coach knew

he didn't ask questions

but he knew

9/21/2006 2:19:16 PM

Give a superstar RB's parents a house

JUST DON'T GIVE SOME POOR BBALL PLAYERS SOME FREE SHOES!

9/21/2006 2:27:38 PM

its ok, he makes millions of dollars now, he can shit out that kind of money he got from college

9/21/2006 3:13:42 PM

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"Give a superstar RB's parents a house JUST DON'T GIVE SOME POOR BBALL PLAYERS SOME FREE SHOES!"

only if said superstat goes to a namebrand program

9/21/2006 7:39:23 PM

whatever happened to this? I thought he was going to lose the Heisman and USC was going to lose thier NC because of it...guess not

12/19/2006 9:45:14 AM

No way USC would lose their NC.

If anything he was probably paid his junior year, when they didn't win the NC anyway.

12/19/2006 9:52:19 AM

^^I was wondering about that recently myself. You know the NCAA though, USC makes too much money.

^No, some of the expenses paid for were suits for the family and getting to the Heisman ceremony if I'm not mistaken. They were definitely made senior year and they won the championship his sophomore year and junior year. Senior year they lost to Texas.

[Edited on December 19, 2006 at 11:35 AM. Reason : .]

12/19/2006 11:33:21 AM

i wish we woulda paid him a little more

12/19/2006 11:35:23 AM

^^ Sr year would be this year for Bush. It was during his Jr year I'm pretty sure, last year. Who cares thoguh? Every school in the country does this stuff. Ohio State is probably the worst of the bunch. Check out this article out of Ohio State. Sure, it is old but it doesn't cast tOSU in the best light..

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1919255

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"you have to punish USC whether they knew about bush or not. There is no way to make the distinction that someone did or did not know in the whole organization"

Well then I'm still waiting for the NCAA to hand down sanctions to Duke for the Myron Piggie episode even though there was NO way of them knowing. You can't hold a school accountable for an outsiders actions. That is unfair IMO. You can give players Moms jobs they aren't qualified for though!!!

from the Ohio St. article

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"IN SIX academic quarters at Ohio State, Maldonado had earned a decent number of credits (his 57 were the equivalent of about 40 at a semester school). He compiled a 2.3 GPA and had never lost his eligibility. But his coursework included four credits for playing football, three for Tressel's Coaching Football class, 10 for remedial reading, 10 for remedial math and three for Issues Affecting Student Athletes. Six other credits wouldn't transfer because he earned D's in two classes. Maldonado couldn't understand how he had earned only 17 transferable credits in two years. Even today the number pinballs around his head. "What kind of degree can you get from Ohio State if none of your classes count at other colleges?" he asks. Not much of one, according to The Drake Group, an NCAA watchdog. Members of the organization refer to schools like Ohio State as "football factories" that offer soft courses designed to keep players on the field. "The purpose isn't to educate and graduate," says Drake Group associate director David Ridpath. "They're eligibility mills." "

[Edited on December 19, 2006 at 11:47 AM. Reason : x]

12/19/2006 11:42:43 AM

The NCAA can't take away USC's NC, because the NCAA doesn't award NCs in football.

^That quote destroys the credibility of that article for me. tOSU is easily one of the top research universities in the world. If football players at tOSU are getting shitty degrees and taking worthless classes, that's their own fault. Yea, I'm sure tOSU has "soft courses" that players take, but so does every other school in the country.

12/19/2006 12:08:50 PM

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"Friedgen was impressed. He had seen his share of transfers over the years, but none with such a barren transcript. "It wasn't his fault," the coach says. "They had him in a bunch of classes that he shouldn't have been in." Maldonado says the curriculum was not his idea. "Over there, they just put you in classes," he says. "I let them take care of my schedule. I wish I wouldn't have." "

Well, read the article further. Sure it could be just a vengeful kid pissed because he didn't get a shot at Ohio St. but there are just too many of these stories out there. And don't try and compare a University's academics overall to teh academics of the football team. If you don't think they get catered to, you're fooling yourself..

** FWIW, Ohio State was the 28th rated research university in the country last year. USC was far ahead of it..

[Edited on December 19, 2006 at 12:18 PM. Reason : x]

12/19/2006 12:14:34 PM

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"tOSU is easily one of the top research universities in the world."

If OSU is one of the top research univerities in the world, then NCSU is the greatest university in the history of the universe.

12/19/2006 3:38:52 PM

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"champayne"

12/19/2006 4:06:04 PM

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"^That quote destroys the credibility of that article for me. tOSU is easily one of the top research universities in the world. If football players at tOSU are getting shitty degrees and taking worthless classes, that's their own fault. Yea, I'm sure tOSU has "soft courses" that players take, but so does every other school in the country."

What the god damn fuck are you talking about? It's a huge school. You ever thought they could be both a brilliant research school and a "football factory"?

12/19/2006 4:13:19 PM

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"FWIW, Ohio State was the 28th rated research university in the country last year. USC was far ahead of it.."

USC is and always will be a joke university. It's a place that anyone can get accepted to. Even if you get turned down by ASU.

12/19/2006 4:26:18 PM

^^^^
It's well known that the college system in the US is the best in the world. Ohio state is one of the top research universities in the US and because of this, the world.

http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2006/ARWU2006_Top100.htm - #66 in regards to all universities in the world (research or otherwise)
http://thecenter.ufl.edu/research2005.pdf - #36 research university in the US

^^

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""What kind of degree can you get from Ohio State if none of your classes count at other colleges?" he asks. Not much of one, according to The Drake Group, an NCAA watchdog."

tOSU is a football factory and a brilliant research school. I wasn't saying either wasn't true, however parts of that article make it seem like tOSU is JUST a football factory and that players not getting a good education is completely the fault of the university.

In either case, none of this has anything to do with Reggie Bush...

[Edited on December 19, 2006 at 4:36 PM. Reason : .]

12/19/2006 4:36:22 PM

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