Im editing my girlfriends resume and have come to a crossroads...in my particular field, the "norm" is currently to not provide an "Objective" or any such statements.

Her field is Marketing/real estate. Should she include an objective or leave it off?


As it currently stands,


Objective:
"To find a full time position in marketing, sales, or public relations working in a
real estate development environment."

9/18/2006 10:36:28 AM

I'm a broker, I didn't have an objective. My assistant didn't have an objective...we're in agreement that an objective isn't really needed.

[Edited on September 18, 2006 at 10:37 AM. Reason : Your cover letter, should specify an objective per company.]

9/18/2006 10:37:29 AM

i'd still provide an objective to be on the safe side. however, i wouldn't use that one. its too generic and will probably get tossed.

9/18/2006 10:37:49 AM

it's implied in the resume. unless youre sending them out blanketed all over town

9/18/2006 10:38:32 AM

thanks bobble - i agree with you

9/18/2006 10:41:57 AM

Leave off the objective and do a cover letter.

9/18/2006 10:56:46 AM

dont put it in

9/18/2006 12:01:06 PM

I have a quick question...i'm applying for an internship (practically already have it, but need to send a resume anyway)

I dont have the best GPA...my major GPA is 3.2...should I include that in my resume or should I omit the GPA altogether?

9/18/2006 1:06:59 PM

^3.2 is NOT a bad GPA! I'd include it.

9/18/2006 1:08:50 PM

only put your gpa on a resume if its your first job and/or they specifically ask for it

otherwise leave it off and let them ask about it in the interview

9/18/2006 1:11:12 PM

Don't include your GPA unless it is knock your socks off good. A 3.2 is certainly nothing to put on your resume. If you're applying for a competitive position there will be dozens of people applying with better GPAs then that.. (no offense but that is the truth)..

It puts you at a large disadvantage before ever meeting with the interviewer if he/she sees your GPA compared with kids who listed 4.0 or 3.8 up there..

[Edited on September 18, 2006 at 1:13 PM. Reason : I realize yours is for an internship but I'm speaking in general]

9/18/2006 1:12:21 PM

Thanks.

ALSO, is it normal to put Minors on a Resume?

[Edited on September 18, 2006 at 1:16 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2006 1:16:27 PM

Only put your minor if it applies, I'd mention it in the interview.

9/18/2006 1:17:07 PM

i put my GPA in my resume (its a 3.2 not that great) so I put my major gpa too (which is great and shows how well I am in my textile classes)


and yes I would put your minor's in your resume...if you had time I would say to go to a computer lab on campus and make your resume (which is probably in word) into a PDF file..a lot more companies can open it and it won't be such a hassle on their part

9/18/2006 1:19:15 PM

I think sending a resume via e-mail is a little weird.

9/18/2006 1:20:20 PM

I always hate those objective things...I usually leave it off...

9/18/2006 1:40:13 PM

If you actually have an objective other than "I want a jon in such and such field" put it on, otherwise, leave it off.

[Edited on September 18, 2006 at 1:47 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2006 1:46:50 PM

yeah you could use a "summary" that explains your experiences very briefly. it gives you the quick tagline benefit of the objective, but actually has a point.

9/18/2006 3:18:22 PM

Your objective should be VERY specific...

ex. "To be hired as a marketing director (whatever job is being applied for) for ABC Marketing company."

Then you should change it for EVERY company you are applying to.

9/18/2006 8:35:30 PM

^nah, you wrong

9/18/2006 8:57:11 PM

objectives are stupid. I only thought people put down an objective because it took up space and they didn't have anything notable to put otherwise. like qualifications.

9/18/2006 9:07:29 PM

also I think if you send your resume in an email you should be sure it's a PDF. it looks a hell of a lot more polished.

9/18/2006 9:08:16 PM

if you have great experience don't include an objective or your gpa

if you are a recent grad include a gpa if higher than 3.0 and an objective

^i agree...i'm interviewing candidates for two vice president positions at the moment and today i received a resume from a potential candidate and it was in word and the tables showed up and everything...it looked sloppy

OBJECTIVES NEVER HAVE "TO FIND" or "POSITION"...many HR people will throw out a resume with an objective that says "To find" or "Position where"...google for some great Resume objectives...there are good ones out there.

[Edited on September 18, 2006 at 9:16 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2006 9:13:04 PM

Quote :

"^nah, you wrong"

No, not really. If you are going to have an objective, you damn best make it specific. Don't do something general...you are applying for a CERTAIN posisiton, they should that is the one you want.

9/18/2006 9:19:01 PM

Quote :

"Some Resume Objectives Do More Harm Than Good "

http://www.careerjournal.com/jobhunting/resumes/19971231-half3.html

9/18/2006 9:22:18 PM

if you are going to put an objective, you DO want it to be personal to each position you're applying for. generic objectives are bad. but in general, they're not needed.

if you feel a need to include a gpa, i'd only include one, and use whichever one is better (Major GPA vs Overall GPA). I'd include your minor(s), even if they're not completely specific to that job, because you never know when an employer might find that minor intriguing or beneficial.

9/18/2006 9:58:03 PM

just an fyi -

you should know your audience. i've talked to more than one hiring manager that said they can always tell the recent grads because they have the best looking resumes as far as format and polish is concerned. however, its the ones with the most desirable experience/qulifications that get called in for the interviews. the easier it is to find most relevant information, the better your chances of getting callled. i'm not discounting the necessity of looking professional, but as long as you've got down the required skills i wouldn't worry too much over the finer details.

that is unless you absolutely have to go through the HR department, in which case you have to write your resume to satisfy the HR people and then hope for the best during the interviews. i always try to bypass the HR if at all possible and get resumes directly in the hands of the hiring managers.

also, don't make it too wordy. i've recieved resumes before and didn't read them simply for the same reason most people won't read this post . . . too many words.

[Edited on September 18, 2006 at 10:54 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on September 18, 2006 at 10:56 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2006 10:53:54 PM

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9/18/2006 10:57:24 PM

How often do companys check your transcripts to see if youre lying about your gpa?

9/19/2006 2:16:52 AM

Quote :

"objectives are stupid. I only thought people put down an objective because it took up space and they didn't have anything notable to put otherwise. like qualifications."

Seriously. It's childish and obvious. Make your intentions clear in a cover letter. What do you like and want to do? What is your vision of what you will accomplish?

9/19/2006 2:37:53 AM

I think it's important for resumes to have a voice that's your own, otherwise you don't stand out at all. As it is resumes are a totally crappy way to advertise yourself; you'd be better off posting flyers on telephone poles than sending out those damnable "ad copy" resumes with objectives like that.

Here's my idea of a great resume:

http://homepage.mac.com/steve/Resume.html (Steve Jobs's Resume)

You really just don't get much more than thirty seconds of anyone's consideration. Be a little audacious.

[Edited on September 19, 2006 at 3:50 AM. Reason : foo]

9/19/2006 3:50:13 AM

I have always found objectives to be completely pointless.

9/19/2006 10:55:57 AM

^my managers at sas hated them with a passion

9/19/2006 11:59:21 AM

When I was looking for work right after graduating over this summer I tried some resumes with objectives & some without depending on the type of work place, but I ended up getting a job where I used a resume without an objective.

9/19/2006 12:28:37 PM

Only if it's your first job out of school. No one really cares once you're out in industry. No one really cares where you went to school either (unless your highing manager happened to go to that school and is the type of person who would take a special interest in you solely for that reason... my boss went to VA Tech and we have like 3 other people from the research group he was in... coinincedence?)

9/19/2006 12:33:07 PM

Actually, it can matter what school you went to. Some schools/programs have bad reputations among hiring managers, and they just won't hire anymore people from that school.

At my last job, they tried like 10 Chemical Engineers from USC, and they we're all terrible, so they said, NO MORE! I've heard the same for Duke undergrad ME's as well.

I guess the inverse can be true too, especially if you are strait out of school.

9/19/2006 2:36:33 PM

bobblehead....what company are you with?

9/19/2006 6:11:43 PM

Quote :

"How often do companys check your transcripts to see if youre lying about your gpa?"

depends on the company. u need to be able to back up any fact on the resume. everyone embellishes a little, but nothing will get you dropped faster than lying on a resume/interview.

FWIW, you *can* leave off the objective & land a job @ a fortune 100 tech company

9/20/2006 11:02:27 AM