what would happen?

9/19/2006 1:46:18 PM

They would be declared terrorists, arrested, and sent off to rendition camps?

Probably nothing.

9/19/2006 1:47:42 PM

I honestly wonder about this question myself. I'd argue that depending upon the resolve of the group, and the group seeking revenge, it could result in Waco/Ruby Ridge situations.

9/19/2006 1:48:44 PM

^^ I could see that happening


^easily see that happening


would the group be left wing or right wing?

9/19/2006 2:03:27 PM

Opposite the brokers in power, obviously.

9/19/2006 2:13:40 PM

well, I feel that the difference is not who is in power but just the power in general

it wouldn't happen anyway, the government pretty much put stuff like that out of business already

9/19/2006 2:16:17 PM

I dunno. Waco, Ruby Ridge, Heaven's Gate, Oklahoma City shit, all of that weird ass history didn't take place that long ago.

9/19/2006 2:42:51 PM

You could just drive a bunch of gasoline trucks off the edge of a dock in Boston and find out.

9/19/2006 2:44:26 PM

Or I could just do nothing of the sort.

9/19/2006 2:45:59 PM

I could see something like that happening with some anti-globalization group. Agree that they would probably be labeled terrorists.

Or perhaps our modern protest tactics are molded off of that, so when it does happen, it isn't as startling anymore.

9/19/2006 2:46:20 PM

What would the modern-day commodity be, though?

9/19/2006 2:50:17 PM

Oil

9/19/2006 2:53:34 PM

Ideology? Gasoline's not a bad material example, I suppose.

This is the academic territory where I don't even claim to have answers that satisfy myself. Not even enough to speculate on without admitting my own ignorance first. But, you ask a terrific question, Maverick.

I haven't the foggiest conception of what it could or would be. Historically, it seems to center around what people accept as true or false, which I'm thinking stems from ideology. But I haven't the faintest idea which one does the most harm, or is historically more to blame than any other.

Consider me in a philosophical No Man's Land on this issue. Population: 1, or close to it.

9/19/2006 2:54:47 PM

what if it wasn't a commodity, but parts of a system, or ideals

9/19/2006 2:58:48 PM

they'd be condemned by the Sierra Club for polluting Boston Harbor...

you can't really do it w/o a commodity, not nearly as dramatic and media-worthy 

9/19/2006 3:02:29 PM

well, citizens can ultimately be the best check and balance system

9/19/2006 3:06:26 PM

it would be foiled before it started, b/c a bunch of white guys walking around as Indians would draw a bit of attention nowadays.

[Edited on September 19, 2006 at 3:07 PM. Reason : .]

9/19/2006 3:07:16 PM

the scenario doesn't have to be the same

but the goal of the group be similar

i used the BTP as an example

9/19/2006 3:08:11 PM

^i was just bullshittin'

9/19/2006 3:10:04 PM

Quote :

"TGD: they'd be condemned by the Sierra Club for polluting Boston Harbor... you can't really do it w/o a commodity, not nearly as dramatic and media-worthy "

lol

Wouldn't that be a hilarious consequence?

I wonder if the Sierra Club's ideological ancestors were condemning the Sons of Liberty.

What if it were newspapers? Or television sets?

9/19/2006 3:30:32 PM

microchip shipments from asia

9/19/2006 3:41:27 PM

It would be difficult to recreate the circumstances of the period, though--the whole "no taxation without representation" bit. An even better question than what commodity would be thrown into the harbor would be "who would be the perpetrators"?

I would have to say that the perpetrators of a modern tea party would have to be from some organization which has absolutely no sway in congress.

9/19/2006 3:54:17 PM

i think it might be a group of citizens concerned over immigration, or perhaps even the fact that we arent being allowed to win the war on terror.

9/19/2006 4:07:00 PM

Quote :

"I would have to say that the perpetrators of a modern tea party would have to be from some organization which has absolutely no sway in congress."

But who still make up a large portion of the populace.

9/19/2006 4:46:33 PM

Ah, good point.

9/19/2006 4:48:59 PM

The Hizbollah thing this summer was probobly the closest modern example.

9/19/2006 5:01:14 PM

no not really

I'm talking about within our own borders

if a group were to get organized to spark change in a major way, violent or non violent...

who would it be?

and what would their goal be?

9/19/2006 5:14:58 PM

Well. Who are the latest domestic extremists? What motivates them?

I'm avoiding the error I used to make by saying that nobody would violenty challenge the government these days. The historical record simply doesn't agree. I'd figure people would know that a legal firearm and B-52 don't carry the same weight, but some simply refuse to care.

I think that with all the vitriol injected into debates over media, it'd be ideological actors attacking news organizations. They seem to be bearing more of the brunt for our political frustrations than our politicians these days. Probably ecoterrorists, I guess. Their goal would probably be a re-establishment of the Stone Age.

Economic actors could probably be seen as an outlet for people's misplaced frustrations.

[Edited on September 19, 2006 at 5:20 PM. Reason : ...]

9/19/2006 5:19:58 PM

I guess thats what I am getting at there

I mean, yeah... violently it could be done, but it would have to be behind the scenes by common people against politicans, leaders, etc etc... not like some dude shooting his rifle at an APC rolling down the street.

even non violently... would it really spark much of a change? our government pretty much puts an end to any uprising by using various laws they've put in the books

9/19/2006 5:23:18 PM

I agree with the dumbass, Randy. They would dump immigrants in the harbor.

9/19/2006 7:24:46 PM

^^ Seems like, and history shows this to be true, that where information is freely exchanged there's always some way to at least effect change through peaceful means.

9/19/2006 10:23:19 PM