Samsung 40" 1080p LCD HDTV
Model: LN-S4095D

saw this at best buy today and since i was in the market to buy a new TV i thought this was a good deal. Only reason why i'm thinking about a new TV is that I have a $2800 store credit since my laptop couldn't be repaired and they gave me the full amount back on a store credit.

other option i was looking at was a 55"-60" Sony SXRD.

the 40" would go in the bedroom. if i went with the SXRD i'd put it in the living room and move the Samsung DLP (50") in the bedroom

what do you guys think of the 40" LCD? its well within my store credit budget

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7843854&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050006&type=product&cmp=++&id=1142298457279

[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 1:12 PM. Reason : oops forgot link]

9/25/2006 1:12:12 PM

doesnt bestbuy sell the westinghouse lcd's? Take a look at em, they are 1080p and get pretty good reviews especially for their price

9/25/2006 1:15:34 PM

It's a mediocre LCD, and probably overkill for a bedroom.

But, if you have the money to burn, and don't mind burning it, it wouldn't be a a bad purchase.

But, the Sony SXRD is a nice TV, and if you watch TV in your living room a lot, then it might be more worth it for you to replace that TV with a better one.


[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 1:17 PM. Reason : ]

9/25/2006 1:16:02 PM

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"doesnt bestbuy sell the westinghouse lcd's? Take a look at em, they are 1080p and get pretty good reviews especially for their price "

they do, haven't seen a 1080p though at bestbuy in a westinghouse...but then again i never really looked.

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"It's a mediocre LCD, and probably overkill for a bedroom. But, if you have the money to burn, and don't mind burning it, it wouldn't be a a bad purchase. But, the Sony SXRD is a nice TV, and if you watch TV in your living room a lot, then it might be more worth it for you to replace that TV with a better one."

Mediocre? why? would like to know.

as far as the SXRD, i agree its a very nice TV and I do watch a lot in my living room but thats just becaues I only have 1 tv and thats for the living room. But my surround sound etc is downstairs so i'd be spending more time on that TV anyway.

9/25/2006 1:19:38 PM

I think the 1080 westinghouse is clearanced, so it'll be hard to find. Their new 720s are crap.

The Samsung seems to have odd color too me, and it tends to pixellate more than a better LCD (like the Sony, but Sony unfortunately doesn't have a 1080 40"), and it'll also look pretty bad for non-HD sources (a common problem with Samsungs). But, for movies and HD content, and computer monitor use, it would be great.

9/25/2006 1:36:47 PM

what projection TVs (DLP or LCD) have the best non-HD quality?

9/25/2006 1:40:01 PM

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"The Samsung seems to have odd color too me, and it tends to pixellate more than a better LCD (like the Sony, but Sony unfortunately doesn't have a 1080 40"), and it'll also look pretty bad for non-HD sources (a common problem with Samsungs). But, for movies and HD content, and computer monitor use, it would be great."

hmm...i'll have to check that out...cause Best buy had it hooked up to a blu-ray player so it was only streaming hd content. If i put it in my room it will have a high probability of being used as a monitor too.

9/25/2006 1:41:56 PM

WHERE DO YOU GET ALL THIS FARKIN MONEY?

9/25/2006 1:49:31 PM

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"I have a $2800 store credit since my laptop couldn't be repaired and they gave me the full amount back on a store credit."

9/25/2006 1:52:15 PM

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"the 40" would go in the bedroom. if i went with the SXRD i'd put it in the living room and move the Samsung DLP (50") in the bedroom"

Surely, you spent money on some other laptop, so don't post the quote in like I am an idiot.

You will have 2 HDTVs over 40"s, not to mention all the other threads where you apparently spend at will. And I know I'm not the first one to accost you about this before, I just wanted to point it out again.

Just don't reply, and the thread won't get derailed.

9/25/2006 1:57:52 PM

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"Surely, you spent money on some other laptop, so don't post the quote in like I am an idiot. "

because "surely" you are one if you are so concerned with other peoples finances

[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 1:59 PM. Reason : oh and don't call me surely]

9/25/2006 1:59:07 PM

You couldn't stand it could you you juvenile peice of shit?

Your thread might as well be trolled into oblivion now for as far as I am concerned.

9/25/2006 2:00:25 PM

i wish we had the animated lol smiley...

9/25/2006 2:01:56 PM

too lazy to look at the actual model, but know this:

the majority of "1080p" models currently DO NOT actually do "true" 1080p. Most of them "upconvert" the signal to 1080p. If that's the case with this TV (avsforum.com can help you make this determination), then it's defnitely a waste of money.

There are are very few displays that can accept a 1080p input and display it without any kind of processing. and they are mucho expensivo.

9/25/2006 2:11:19 PM

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"too lazy to look at the actual model, but know this: the majority of "1080p" models currently DO NOT actually do "true" 1080p. Most of them "upconvert" the signal to 1080p. If that's the case with this TV (avsforum.com can help you make this determination), then it's defnitely a waste of money. There are are very few displays that can accept a 1080p input and display it without any kind of processing. and they are mucho expensivo."

i am aware of this...simply because of the unavailablity of a 1080p capable cable. however it does have dual HDMI which i assume will probably play a roll in that down the road.

9/25/2006 2:21:47 PM

I can vouch for the horrible display on Samsung LCD's with non-HD sources. We have several 32" Samsung LCD's here at work (720p) and they are beautiful on native res, but its almost vomit inducing to try and use them at any other resolution from any kind of source.

If you can find a 1080p westinghouse on clearance, snatch it. You can alternatively try to sell your BB store credit and grab one from Crutchfield for like 1400 for the 40/42"

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"Surely, you spent money on some other laptop, so don't post the quote in like I am an idiot. You will have 2 HDTVs over 40"s, not to mention all the other threads where you apparently spend at will. And I know I'm not the first one to accost you about this before, I just wanted to point it out again. "

State409c, please reference the iTunes 7 thread.

9/25/2006 2:32:32 PM

man i bet my life would be the shit if i had as much money as mark

9/25/2006 2:41:26 PM

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"i am aware of this...simply because of the unavailablity of a 1080p capable cable. however it does have dual HDMI which i assume will probably play a roll in that down the road. "

not the case. It is actually the signal processing chip (the one that actually CAN display true 1080p) that is too expensive. Companies have been cutting costs by putting a chip in that basically emulates 1080p instead of the real deal.

1080p (@24fps) can even be carried over (high-quality) component cables. Doesn't even have to be HDMI. I believe you need HDMI 1.3 to carry a 1080p signal (not sure bout that one though)

But yeah, basically what i'm saying is: don't expect this TV to be future-proof, just because it has HDMI plugs. Most of these current 1080p TVs aren't even capable of displaying ture 1080p.

damn this shit is way too confusing even for uber-nerds such as myself, how do they expect the avg joe consumer not to be intimadated??

9/25/2006 2:47:45 PM

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"If you can find a 1080p westinghouse on clearance, snatch it. You can alternatively try to sell your BB store credit and grab one from Crutchfield for like 1400 for the 40/42" "

thats what i really would like to do...sell the BBY store credit and put the money in the bank...

9/25/2006 2:51:28 PM

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"I can vouch for the horrible display on Samsung LCD's with non-HD sources"

which ones? i was just about to pick up a samsung 32" LNS3251D but now you gotta me hesitant

[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 2:59 PM. Reason : it got really good reviews too so now i'm sad]

9/25/2006 2:53:59 PM

Yea we have one of those and 3 or 4 of the 27 inch models.

Go look at one at Best Buy, Circuit City or CompUSA. They look like ass with analog sources (although to be fair, every lcd I've ever seen doesn't do any better)

9/25/2006 3:08:01 PM

yeah, i first saw them at BB. i'll have to go up there again and change the channel. do you have any recommendations on 32" lcds?

9/25/2006 3:46:03 PM

sorry man, I'm not a fan of the samsung

9/25/2006 3:47:44 PM

I have a 1080p westing house 37 that I'm talking on right now... I use it as my computer monitor, TV and what I play my xbox 360 on in my bedroom... its beyond stellar...

I have it hooked through DVI to my computer so its running actual 1080p... and since Microsoft just announced

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"In addition, Microsoft announced that its fall software update, scheduled for release later this year, will allow Xbox 360 consoles world-wide to output game and movie content in 1080p resolution."

its totally worth it... My friend has the Samsung 1080p 40" and its pretty awesome too, it has a LOT better settings for video games than the westing house which is just a monitor with a crapton of inputs...

you might think that 37" is too big for a computer monitor... but I replaced 3 17" crt's with one monitor and porn has never looked better

[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 8:49 PM. Reason : I have westing house 37" friend has samsung 40"]

9/25/2006 8:48:58 PM

sony srxd is very nice.

westinghouse also produces the sharp aquos lcd's if i'm not mistaken. i like my aquos.

9/25/2006 9:00:07 PM

TYLER DONT BE TELLIN THESE PEOPLE WHAT WE GOT

9/25/2006 10:22:40 PM

SXRD V DLP

Seems like a no fucking brainer. Unless you have sony bias.

9/25/2006 10:35:39 PM

so if you had about 2300 to spend on a tv what would you get?

9/25/2006 10:55:39 PM

A maxed out roth and I would wait until more than 5 channels are in HD

[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 11:04 PM. Reason : .]

9/25/2006 11:04:09 PM

I mean thats the ultimate LOL factor with 1080p television, its pretty useless.

Sure, PS3 games and some Xbox games will be in 1080p, but GL finding a PS3 before next christmas and GL finding an Xbox360 game running 1080p thats worth a damn.

No channel will be broadcast on cable or sat in 1080p anytime soon.

I'm with quinn.

9/26/2006 9:35:59 AM

^ this is pretty much what I am doing and what I advised a buddy about. Don't fret the 1080p now (especially since neither of us are gamers). I think he went with the westinghouse 37".

9/26/2006 10:33:30 AM

the 50" sxrd is probably the nicest looking tv I've seen outside of a $10000 plasma. I would however like to checkout the new 42" aquos. its about $2300 and I've never seen an lcd prettier than an aquos at smaller sizes

9/26/2006 10:39:05 AM

I purchased the Westinghouse 42" 1080p (LVM-42w2) a little mover a month ago and have been happy with the purchase. I did have an issue with it being hooked up to my computer and the screen flashing in and out, but i swapped DVI inputs with my cable box and haven't had an issue since. 1080p might be a little premature right now, but I had my old TV, which I got used from a friend, for 3 years, and still have the 20 something inch TV that I got my sophamore year at State back in '99. I am not planning on buying a new TV anytime soon so when 1080p becomes more widely used, I'll be ready.

9/26/2006 12:57:15 PM

Anyone who actually watchs hdtv broadcasts will be able to quickly tell you resolution doesnt mean shit when you have compression artifacts on all pan shots / fast motion (like oh say any sporting event). I dont think i quite understand future proofing for a technology that is so far down the road. Also when youre talking about a 45 inch or smaller tv, you would have to be sitting 2 feet away to notice the increase in picture quality. 1.5x to 2x seating distance, 720p and get something with a good scaler (deinterlacer) and wait 5 years.

9/26/2006 3:41:19 PM

yes... but its my computer monitor biatch I AM sitting 2' from it and its beautiful...

I usually have a nice 9" pip from my TV... which also is a perfect size for 2' away...

you gotta come to annapolis and check it out...

[Edited on September 26, 2006 at 8:49 PM. Reason : travel demand is to quinn]

9/26/2006 8:46:32 PM

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"I can vouch for the horrible display on Samsung LCD's with non-HD sources"

so i went to BB again last night to check the SD channels on the Samsungs. they didn't look that bad. they are, after all, SD. i even compared to the LG and Sony next to them. I couldn't tell much difference.

[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 4:04 PM. Reason : i'm hardly a videophile though. i guess what i don't know won't hurt me, right]

9/27/2006 4:03:19 PM

there's plenty of HDTV content available thx 2 the internet

alt.binaries.hdtv

9/29/2006 9:11:53 PM

I used to have a TV in my bedroom then I got rid of it. It was the smartest move that I've ever done.

9/29/2006 9:15:48 PM

i am sitting with an SXRD, its awesome

9/30/2006 12:12:31 AM

sold the gift card so i don't need to worry about a tv anymore

9/30/2006 5:41:02 AM