...should be familiar with.

I choose the Srebrenica massacre.

Demonstrates:
-Massive UN failure
-Consequences of citizen dis/un-armament
-Religion being used as excuse for genocide

9/27/2006 10:54:49 PM

Tishnic Massacre

9/27/2006 11:04:59 PM

Nobody cares about your massacres.

9/27/2006 11:07:48 PM

Everyone? I don't think that big. I'ma stick with North Carolinians...

1979 Greensboro Massacre

Wilmington Insurrection of 1898

9/27/2006 11:08:06 PM

ok, ill be serious

Bloody Sunday, St. Petersburg, 1905

Probably the most dramatic, disturbing, influential historical event of the 20th century.

-turned the rest of Russia on the Tsar
-got the common, Eastern Orthodox Russians away from the Tsar
-justified need for disposal of the tsar
-inspired Lenin (he said this event inspired him the most over the next 12 years)
-gave a galvanizing point to the Soviet movement
-emphasized to the outside world the failure of Imperial Russia, both internally and in foreign affaris/wars (in midst of Russo-Japanese War, partly a protest against that war)

[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 11:12 PM. Reason : .]

9/27/2006 11:08:56 PM

Tunguska Event, 1908

9/27/2006 11:13:04 PM

Quote :

"Probably the most dramatic, disturbing, influential historical event of the 20th century. -turned the rest of Russia on the Tsar -got the common, Eastern Orthodox Russians away from the Tsar -justified need for disposal of the tsar -inspired Lenin (he said this event inspired him the most over the next 12 years) -gave a galvanizing point to the Soviet movement -emphasized to the outside world the failure of Imperial Russia, both internally and in foreign affaris/wars (in midst of Russo-Japanese War, partly a protest against that war)"

Yeah, but what lessons can be learned from it that everyone should be familiar with?

9/27/2006 11:16:03 PM

Ruby Ridge - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge

Also, I read the book, it was pretty interesting: Randy Weaver. The Federal Siege At Ruby Ridge: In Our Own Words. ISBN 0-9664334-0-8.

9/27/2006 11:17:16 PM

Charles Martel's stopping the Moors at the Battle of Tours in 732

preserved the rest of western Europe from Muslim invasion and Islamization after the Moors had already run roughshod over Spain and Portugal

9/27/2006 11:18:27 PM

October 6, 2006

Battlestar Galactica Season 3

9/27/2006 11:21:24 PM

^^^

the crazy this is that that dude is still alive

they basically murdered his wife and kid and dog and he is still alive to deal with it

sucks

[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 11:22 PM. Reason : .]

9/27/2006 11:22:40 PM

Quote :

"Yeah, but what lessons can be learned from it that everyone should be familiar with?"

Don't murder the leader of a peaceful movement, even if they are a threat to your hold on power. You will only insprire the next line of leaders, who could be much worse (as was seen).

Quote :

"In January 1905 Georgiy Gapon and Pinhas Rutenberg led a march in St. Petersburg to present a petition to the tsar. Cossack troops responded to the throng with gunfire, killing 96 people and initiating the Revolution of 1905. This event, which came to be called Bloody Sunday, combined with the embarrassing failures in the war with Japan, prompted more strikes, agrarian disorders, army mutinies, and terrorist acts organized by opposition groups. Workers formed a council, or Soviet, in St. Petersburg. Armed uprisings occurred in Moscow, the Urals, Latvia, and parts of Poland."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_history%2C_1892-1920

Also, the Tishnic Massacre.

But it was not sad, we do the killing.

[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 11:28 PM. Reason : .]

9/27/2006 11:25:19 PM

Am I the only person who isn't that fascinated with Ruby Ridge?

Yeah, it could have been handled differently...welcome to the black man's world.

9/27/2006 11:52:44 PM

9/11 because it was recent. everybody should be familer with something THAT WAS JUST 5 YEARS AGO.


I WIN WIN WIN WI I WIN WIW NINWII WNINWINWINWINWINWIWNIWNWINWINWINWINWIWNIWNIWNWINWINWIWNIWNWI

9/27/2006 11:59:10 PM

^^
Waco was rather more interesting, IMO.

9/28/2006 12:02:35 AM

i already won this thread, why are you guys still talking

9/28/2006 12:03:39 AM

I think hcnguyen just totally won a seemingly unwinnable thread.

GG, homes.

[Edited on September 28, 2006 at 12:04 AM. Reason : ]

9/28/2006 12:04:08 AM

I was tryna think of some event where people worked together to make something happen, and everything ended hapy and positive. Or some event where someone died in the name of true love.

But, I'm so negative...I couldn't think of shit.

9/28/2006 12:06:15 AM

Quote :

"Battlestar Galactica Season 3"

Ugh.

9/28/2006 12:06:34 AM

^^how about the first real elections of any kind held in the Congo, this very year?

the UN, multiple Congolese factions, and independent watchdog groups teamed up to make that happen.

9/28/2006 12:43:23 AM

The one a few years back when the WWII vets all took up arms and took on the local PD to stop a corrupt election.

9/28/2006 1:39:32 AM

Quote :

"Tishnic Massacre"

High five

9/28/2006 9:30:17 AM

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"I was tryna think of some event where people worked together to make something happen, and everything ended hapy and positive."

This describes WWII. However, if WWII were to happen today, the left would let Hitler take over the world because they wouldnt want to risk soldiers lives to prevent the deaths of millions of others.

9/28/2006 9:48:24 AM

The Columbine High School and the My Lai massacres

9/28/2006 10:03:33 AM

Battle of Stamford Bridge 1066

Effectively allowed William the Bastard to conquer Anglo-Saxon England

9/28/2006 10:53:24 AM

They overlap, and should.

A Brief, Incomplete List of Possibilities
World War II
The End of British Imperialism, Apartheid, Colonialism, Corporatism, Marxism, Communism, etc.
The Fall of Rome, Greece, Egypt, and Any Civilization
Hurricane Katrina
9/11's Rebroadcast on 9/11/2006
The "God Study" Released on 9/11/2006
United States Supreme Court Precedents
Enron/MCI Worldcom/Arthur Anderson Scandals
Wilhelm Reich vs. The United States Government
The Project for A New American Century
The Birth And Progression of Psychology

Anything concerning the mindset of any president, religious figure, corporate chief, ruling philosopher, witch doctor, or whatever mask you want to put on the idea of "leader" / "alpha male" involved therein.

[Edited on September 28, 2006 at 1:47 PM. Reason : ...]

9/28/2006 1:47:13 PM

waco and...

Quote :

"Ruby Ridge - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge Also, I read the book, it was pretty interesting: Randy Weaver. The Federal Siege At Ruby Ridge: In Our Own Words. ISBN 0-9664334-0-8."

9/28/2006 1:54:33 PM

^In the grand scheme of things, miniscule.

9/28/2006 1:59:59 PM

I'm thinking US history of late...

9/28/2006 2:02:03 PM

Quote :

"This describes WWII. However, if WWII were to happen today, the left would let Hitler take over the world because they wouldnt want to risk soldiers lives to prevent the deaths of millions of others."

trollingest thing i've read all day. congratulations!

9/28/2006 2:03:16 PM

Perhaps a more coherent distinction of what separates historical events from current events would be a good idea, too.

9/28/2006 2:05:36 PM

Quote :

"This describes WWII. However, if WWII were to happen today, the left would let Hitler take over the world because they wouldnt want to risk soldiers lives to prevent the deaths of millions of others."

you mean to have peace in our time?

[Edited on September 28, 2006 at 2:07 PM. Reason : .]

9/28/2006 2:07:09 PM

any religious insurrection

9/28/2006 2:07:52 PM

If by EVERYONE you mean every human:

The Rwanda genocide: 8,000-10,000 humans being hacked to death PER DAY. You can't beat that in sheer sickness. Furthermore, it shows humans at their evilest, unlike the Holocaust, where it was people in power killing. In Rwanda, it was the power of words through a radio station that convinced regular people to cut up their neighbours, friends, and relatives. Infants, women, old, all.


If by EVERYONE you mean every American:

Then, any of the numerous massacres and genocides that America is responsible for, directly or indirectly. As well as all the assasinations of democratically elected leaders, and the installings (or support) of dictators who committed said genocides.

Why? Because most Americans DON'T KNOW about those. And they think the US is a good country that can do no harm, and is actually a force for good. Only when you study those events, will you come to realize why the overwhelming majority of humans distrust America's stated humane intentions in it's involvement in various hotspots around the world.

[Edited on September 28, 2006 at 2:14 PM. Reason : Iran, Indonesia, Latin America, South America (several countries), etc.]

9/28/2006 2:09:55 PM

Quote :

"if WWII were to happen today, the left would let Hitler take over the world because they wouldnt want to risk soldiers lives to prevent the deaths of millions of others."

you're a goddam moron

9/28/2006 2:10:47 PM

Quote :

"In the grand scheme of things, miniscule."

This doesn't stop it from being a historical event that I think everyone should be familiar with.

and, when you think about it, EVERYTHING HUMANS SAY OR DO is miniscule in the grand scheme of things.

9/28/2006 2:14:59 PM

^ Agreed.

I mean...it's all just the Soap Box.

Right?

[Edited on September 28, 2006 at 2:16 PM. Reason : ...]

9/28/2006 2:15:55 PM

i like how everyone thinks bigun's analogy is so horrible when its not

especially with the changes in the driveby media from the 1940ss to the 2000's

9/28/2006 2:28:23 PM

^^What is so special about Ruby Ridge though? What lessons can be learned from it that everyone should know?

If you're breaking the law and the feds tell you to do something, you should fucking do it?

^Where did he make an analogy? He just said that the left would let Hitler take over the world, if the same set of circumstances arose today. And that's total bullshit.

[Edited on September 28, 2006 at 2:45 PM. Reason : ssss]

9/28/2006 2:42:44 PM

What the hell is this Tishnic massacre? I'm not getting anything on Google.

9/28/2006 3:39:22 PM

^^ because the government murdered it's own citizens and then bribed and paid off people to keep their mouths shut


but no one cares because that guy was a "gun toting redneck"

[Edited on September 28, 2006 at 3:44 PM. Reason : ..]

9/28/2006 3:44:21 PM

I'd say the American Revolution

Everyone knows of it, not many people really know it.

Nothing explains America better. If you don't get a little choked up when you read the Gettysburg Address, you need to get a better understanding of the American Revolution.

9/28/2006 4:17:05 PM

good call

9/28/2006 4:23:55 PM

Quote :

"What the hell is this Tishnic massacre? I'm not getting anything on Google"

lol

9/28/2006 4:35:17 PM

Quote :

"Borat: "I do a picture, only small, of the Tishnik Masacre. Where many Uzbecks... Crushed!" Man: "How did you feel when you drew this?" Borat: "Very proud!". Man: "I am just listening with sadness for your people." Borat: "No, it is not sad. It is us that do the kill!"

9/28/2006 4:39:00 PM

Quote :

"I'd say the American Revolution Everyone knows of it, not many people really know it. Nothing explains America better. If you don't get a little choked up when you read the Gettysburg Address, you need to get a better understanding of the American Revolution."

How does the American Revolution "explain America"?

9/28/2006 4:42:23 PM

>.<;;

9/28/2006 4:46:23 PM

October 5th, 1957 - The day we got something that we made ourselves off this friggin' rock.

Why is everyone so focused in on events where shittons of people died or bad things happened. Are the only events worth remembering the shitty stuff that we did to ourselves?

9/28/2006 4:59:32 PM

August 25, 1945. The first victims of the Cold War are murdered in cold blood by Maoists. They are missionaries, killed due to their pro-christian, pro-capitalist, anti-communist agenda. for the first time, the left's war against religion truly hits home.

9/28/2006 5:03:51 PM

9/28/2006 5:10:28 PM