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10/1/2006 3:10:26 PM

OMG PARADE

10/1/2006 3:10:51 PM

OMG WHAT WILL THEY TALK ABOUT NOW

10/1/2006 3:10:59 PM

WOW LETS MAKE A THREAD ABOUT IT

10/1/2006 3:11:24 PM

hopefully reggie bush's fumble

^my thoughts exactly fagbot

[Edited on October 1, 2006 at 3:12 PM. Reason : .]

10/1/2006 3:11:31 PM

i told everyone i know that he'd get his first sack today.

10/1/2006 3:12:29 PM

today's a great day for NC State (alumni) football

10/1/2006 3:14:50 PM

he actually has 1.5 sacks according to ESPN.com

10/1/2006 3:15:09 PM

espn will have a 1 hour special celebrating bush's first td...lets see what they do for this.

10/1/2006 3:15:40 PM

omg so was his first sack a half?



meh hard to get excited over a sack...

[Edited on October 1, 2006 at 3:16 PM. Reason : gg mario]

10/1/2006 3:15:50 PM

in Houston so the only game in town right now is the Texans.

First & 10 was a D-line sack. DeMeco Ryans forced Culpepper to the front of the pocket and Mario finished him off (1 sack)

Second & 13 - Sacked by someone else, but Williams got a hand on Culpepper to finish it. (0.5 sack)

The defense and the crowd both came to life there. The Texans may just win this game.

PS. Doesn't hurt that the 'Stros are sucking it up, so the people need something to cheer for.

10/1/2006 3:19:48 PM

houston beat somebody

10/1/2006 3:56:20 PM

didnt even mention it on CBS postgame

10/1/2006 4:26:18 PM

yeah, nobody gives fuck about the Texans..

I mean if it weren't for Mario, i wouldn't give a fuck either

10/1/2006 4:38:33 PM

they care enough to criticize his lack of production...just not enough to acknowledge when he gets a sack

10/1/2006 4:39:49 PM

aha rivers got his first sack of the year, too

10/1/2006 4:41:18 PM

Adrian Wilson with a 99 yard interception return for a TD.

10/1/2006 5:04:16 PM

sacks 1 touchdowns 0 .... interesting

10/1/2006 5:21:28 PM

Mario also tipped the two point conversion pass that would have tied the game with under 2 minutes to go.

10/1/2006 8:14:57 PM

Who is leading in the category of being called out by their coach for sucking it up?....interesting

10/1/2006 8:17:12 PM

i wish one of the fucking nfl shows would show a goddamn clip of mario's 2 sacks or his crucial pass tip. fucking christ. when reggie scores a touchdown, i'm sure we'll hear about it for the entire week, on every channel (including the food network).

10/1/2006 8:21:17 PM

Quote :

"Who is leading in the category of being called out by their coach for sucking it up?....interesting"

Who is "every player on the Raiders" Alex.

10/1/2006 8:22:46 PM

Tyhomer

10/1/2006 8:23:08 PM

^^^You're forgetting one thing, nobody outside of NC cares. Hell it took him 4 games for that to happen, the only story in that is that it took him THAT long.

10/1/2006 8:24:27 PM

Why has it taken Bush so long to score a touchdown?

I even expected him to get one today.

He is more of a flop than I expected.

10/1/2006 8:25:35 PM

He has rushed for yards and helped his team score. All offensive stats aren't measured in TDs. However, with Mario, they are measured in sacks and tackles, things he is doing very bad in.

10/1/2006 8:26:44 PM

he fumbled one away, lets put that on every highlight reel

oh wait it already is

10/1/2006 8:27:16 PM

Through 3 games...

Quote :

"If you need proof.. here are the rookie defensive stats... Tackles No. 1. D. Ryans HOU 30 2. E. Sims DET 27 3. K. Ellison BUF 22 4. D. Jackson CLE 20 5. A. Hawk GB 20 Sacks No. 1. D. Tapp SEA 2 2. M. Lawson SF 2 3. M. Anderson CHI 1.5 4. K. Simpson BUF 1 5. K. Wimbley CLE 1 Mario has 8 tackles and 0 sacks in three games. Now compare that to Reggie Bush (sharing time with duece & returning punts) Rushing Yds 1. L. Maroney NE 169 2. R. Bush NO 125 3. J. Addai IND 123 4. M. Jones-Drew JAC 115 5. M. Bell DEN 114 Receptions No. 1. R. Bush NO 19 2. M. Colston NO 15 3. G. Jennings GB 10 4. J. Addai IND 8 5. M. Jones-Drew JAC 6 This is just comparing rookies since we are debating the 2006 draft. Obviously Bush should have been #1. "

8 tackles and 0 sacks is just plain PATHETIC.

[Edited on October 1, 2006 at 8:29 PM. Reason : .]

10/1/2006 8:28:36 PM

moron, DE's arent measured on tackles. Freeney avgs like 2.5 tackles a game for his career. they are measured on sacks, TFL's and hurries.

10/1/2006 8:34:55 PM

Ok, well the sacks are still lacking too, thanks. Now go find those other ones and I bet he is way behind in them as well.

10/1/2006 8:35:40 PM

it's disappointing, but you need to investigate WHY.
1. mario is being moved around all over the place.
2. until today, houston wasn't a blizting team. they typically only rushed four.
3. mario is barely getting help from his defensive backs.
4. mario is the focus of the d-line. him getting attention HAS helped his fellow linemen get sacks.
5. just like you credit bush with helping offenses score, you have to acknowledge the other ways linemen affect games, but don't get stats for.

10/1/2006 8:38:18 PM

And I am sure the other teams are just letting Bush run wild on the field and he still can't manage to score

^Kinda like how Vick does most of the time, but you idiots turn a blind eye to that?

[Edited on October 1, 2006 at 8:40 PM. Reason : /]

10/1/2006 8:40:18 PM

Congrats on Mario's first sack

It was cheap as fuck though haha, someone else flushed Daunte right into Mario

And on the half sack Culpepper fell down and Mario tagged him.


And im not hating by saying this. Sometimes you get cheap sacks... makes up for the times you flsuh the QB into someone else for the sack...

People drive me nuts with all this statistic stuff... you can be the best DE in the game and only get 6 sacks in a season... they are somewhat fluky statistics on a game by game basis... its not baseball where statistics more clearly measure your value....


Anyway, congrats to Mario. Hopefully it'll get some pressure off him and he'll start playing better in the coming weeks than he has thus far.

10/1/2006 8:40:42 PM

^^^ You're making way too much sense to him.

He'll never understand that.

Quote :

"Hopefully it'll get some pressure off him and he'll start playing better in the coming weeks than he has thus far."

Looking purely at the LE vs. RT matchups (and thus not accounting for the Texans' moving him all over the place), he matched up against some premier RTs in those first three games. Vernon Carey may have presented him with the first mismatch slanted in his favor.

Meanwhile, the Saints drew the Browns, Packers, and Falcons. This was supposed to be easy pickings for Bush.

[Edited on October 1, 2006 at 8:49 PM. Reason : ~]

10/1/2006 8:42:09 PM

Oh I get it, and most of it is in my favor. Thanks.

10/1/2006 8:42:34 PM

Nobody outside of NC cares, except all of the reporters and analysts who keep talking shit about him but now at least he has the sack. Jesus christ. Give the kid some credit.


Lets do this....



Line Reggie up at DE and see how the fuck he does. I guarantee that Mario would perform better at tailback than Reggie would at DE. Lets match them that way since you idiots want to compare the two so fucking bad.

[Edited on October 1, 2006 at 8:50 PM. Reason : ]

10/1/2006 8:50:23 PM

From a football perspective taking Mario over Bush looks like the correct pick.


good RB's are a dime a dozen right now. Maroney and Deangelo Williams both look really sick. Those are late first round picks...Even Maurice-Drew looks pretty good.


You arent gonna get a Mario Williams type DE at #25 in the draft ever...


From a business perspective the move still kinda sucks because the Texans still suck dick and cant win games... if Mario doesnt turn into a dominant DE then they will have a lot of explaining to do...

10/1/2006 8:52:40 PM

Quote :

"Line Reggie up at DE and see how the fuck he does. I guarantee that Mario would perform better at tailback than Reggie would at DE. Lets match them that way since you idiots want to compare the two so fucking bad."

Wow, no offense man, but that just might be the dumbest thing ever posted in sports talk, and I have posted some REALLY dumb things in here.


That would be like saying...

"Well oh yeah, Ray Lewis is better because he could play QB better than Peyton could play linebacker!!1"

[Edited on October 1, 2006 at 8:54 PM. Reason : .]

10/1/2006 8:54:35 PM

bush would be doing worse behind the texans o-line than he would behind the staints line.

^ you're helping him prove his point. comparing def ends and running backs IS fucking stupid as shit; just like comparing a linebacker and qb would be.

[Edited on October 1, 2006 at 8:55 PM. Reason : ]

10/1/2006 8:54:47 PM

I know, I posted that LB QB comparison to show how fucking stupid he was for saying what he did you moron.

10/1/2006 8:57:03 PM

i think he was saying "the only way to truly compare the two is to force them to play the same position." its hypothetical, and a tongue-in-cheek joke at the idiots trying to compare the two's impact and abilities.

10/1/2006 8:58:18 PM

Nope, nobody on here is that smart.

10/1/2006 8:58:42 PM

^I was pointing out how stupid it is to compare mario and reggie in the first place.....werent you the one to post their stats through the first 3 games of the season?



wow you're dumb

Quote :

"i think he was saying "the only way to truly compare the two is to force them to play the same position." its hypothetical, and a tongue-in-cheek joke at the idiots trying to compare the two's impact and abilities."

bingo

[Edited on October 1, 2006 at 9:00 PM. Reason : ]

10/1/2006 8:59:47 PM

Quote :

"From a football perspective taking Mario over Bush looks like the correct pick. good RB's are a dime a dozen right now. Maroney and Deangelo Williams both look really sick. Those are late first round picks...Even Maurice-Drew looks pretty good. You arent gonna get a Mario Williams type DE at #25 in the draft ever... From a business perspective the move still kinda sucks because the Texans still suck dick and cant win games... if Mario doesnt turn into a dominant DE then they will have a lot of explaining to do..."

They may not win right away, but I don't think they're a worse professional football team for passing on Bush. Take September-January off the calendar and look at all the things like jersey sales and other organizational promotion bs that is constantly held against the Texans, and yeah, anyone could say they fucked up royally.

But I think if they continue to make the kind of moves that make a team successful - they have [potential] ~ stars at QB, WR, CB, DE, and LB - they will be fine, and those "what could have been" thoughts of 2006 will become "look at what it is" thoughts in 2010. However, it won't be pretty if the face of the franchise continues to be whoever happens to be on top of David Carr following a blown blocking assignment.

I still remember when ESPN interviewed people in a Houston sports bar not too long after that Fresno State game, and ALL the respondents said something to the effect of the Texans' NEED to take Bush. After the NC game, the sentiment took a shift and the people went 50-50 on Bush and Young.

I believe that if the combine were a televised event, and it was known that the Texans were considering taking Mario first, many Texans fans would have agreed with the choice.

[Edited on October 1, 2006 at 9:03 PM. Reason : @]

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10/1/2006 9:01:27 PM

MacTuckIzzle, is that your girl with you in your gallery? if so, she shouldn't be fucking such a dumbass. send her over here.

10/1/2006 9:55:49 PM

Quote :

"You're forgetting one thing, nobody outside of NC cares. Hell it took him 4 games for that to happen, the only story in that is that it took him THAT long."

10/1/2006 9:58:14 PM

Hes no Albert "The Stomper" Haynesworth

10/1/2006 10:01:54 PM

ahahaha what the hell was up with that guy anyway

10/1/2006 10:02:38 PM

im gonna use this thread to say DeMeco Ryans is a beast.

10/1/2006 10:03:52 PM

hes always been a nutcase, he was always doing stupid shit at UT and hasnt matured much at all now that hes in the NFL, if anything, hes gotten worse.


All the talent in the world just going to shit

10/1/2006 10:04:09 PM