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PackGuitar
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old threads were idle, had to make a new one

theres a clip on espn.com of where the computers are at up til now... west virginia is 9th and i love that. thats all i have to say cause they don't play shit all year and im just glad they arent up in the top 5... k bye

10/12/2006 7:17:02 PM

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what was it I read somewhere about WVU's schedule...something like they plan to take 2006 off and then complain when they don't make a BCS game

10/12/2006 7:26:12 PM

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they are also thinking that usc will be ranked #1 ahead of ohio state

bcs polls this early into the season are meaningless

10/12/2006 8:22:48 PM

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USC has played like shit. There's no way they should be #1 and I don't think they should be #2.

10/12/2006 8:24:06 PM

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^agreed, its ridiculous... just RIDICULOUS

10/12/2006 9:26:01 PM

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^^^^ Tuesday Morning Quarterback.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/060905

his predictions suck so far, but his point about "powerhouse" teams beating up on horrible college teams is dead-on

10/12/2006 9:45:02 PM

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Bowl Championship Series Selection Policies and Procedures, 2007-2010 Games:

Automatic Qualification

1. The top two teams in the final BCS Standings shall play in the National Championship Game.

2. The champions of the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10, and Southeastern conferences will have automatic berths in one of the participating bowls after the 2006 and 2007 regular seasons.

3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:

A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.

No more than one such team from Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, and the Western Athletic Conference shall earn an automatic berth in any year. If two or more teams from those conferences satisfy the provisions for an automatic berth, then the team with the highest finish in the final BCS Standings will receive the automatic berth, and the remaining team or teams will be in the pool of teams eligible for selection by the bowls as at-large teams.

4. Notre Dame will have an automatic berth if it is in the top eight of the final BCS Standings.

5. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 4, and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 3 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier, provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game.

6. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 5, and if no team qualifies under paragraph No. 5 and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 4 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game.

At-Large Teams

If there are fewer than 10 automatic qualifiers, then the bowls will select at-large participants to fill the remaining berths. At at-large team is any Division I-A team that is bowl-eligible and meets the following requirements:

A. Has won at least nine regular-season games, and
B. Is among the top 14 teams in the final BCS Standings.
Note: in order to participate in a BCS Bowl game, a team (i) must be eligible for post-season play under the rules of the NCAA and, if it not an independent, under the rules of its Conference and (ii) must not have imposed sanctions upon itself prohibiting participation in a post-season game for infractions of the rules of the NCAA or the rules of its Conference.

Team-Selection Procedures

The bowls will select their participants from two pools: (1) automatic qualifiers, all of which must be selected, and, (2) at-large teams, if fewer than 10 teams qualify automatically. The following sequence will be used when establishing pairings:

1. The top two teams in the final BCS Standings will be placed in the National Championship Game ("NCG").

2. Unless they qualify to play in the NCG, the champions of selected conferences are contractually committed to host selected games:

Atlantic Coast Conference-Orange Bowl
Big Ten Conference-Rose Bowl
Big 12 Conference-Fiesta Bowl
Pac-10 Conference-Rose Bowl
Southeastern Conference-Sugar Bowl

3. If a bowl loses a host team to the NCG, then such bowl shall select a replacement team from among the automatic-qualifying teams and the at-large teams before any other selections are made. If two bowls lose host teams to the NCG, each bowl will get a replacement pick before any other selections are made. In such case, the bowl losing the No. 1 team gets the first replacement pick, and the bowl losing the No. 2 team gets the second replacement pick. If the Rose Bowl loses both the Big Ten and Pac-10 champions to the NCG, it will receive two replacement picks.

A bowl choosing a replacement team may not select any of the following:

A. A team in the NCG;
B. The host team for another BCS Bowl;
C. When two bowls lose host teams, then the bowl losing the number one team may not select a replacement team from the same Conference as the number two team, unless the bowl losing the number two team consents.

4. Any bowl with an unfilled slot shall select a team from the automatic qualifiers and/or at-large teams in the following order:

A. The bowl played on the date nearest to the National Championship Game in will pick first-in 2007, Sugar Bowl January 3;
B. The bowl played on the date second-nearest to the National Championship Game will pick second-in 2007, Orange Bowl January 2;
C. The bowl hosting the game that is played in the time slot immediately after the Rose Bowl game will pick third-in 2007, Fiesta Bowl.

The rotation noted in paragraphs A, B and C will be as follows:
January 2007 games: Sugar, Orange, Fiesta
January 2008 games: Orange, Fiesta, Sugar
January 2009 games: Fiesta, Sugar, Orange
January 2010 games: Orange, Fiesta, Sugar

All host teams earning an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game must be selected to play in one of the BCS bowls. No more than two teams from any single Conference may be selected to play in the BCS bowl games.

5. After completion of the selection process as described in Paragraph Nos. 1-4, the Conferences and Notre Dame may, but are not required to, adjust the pairings taking into consideration the following:

A. whether the same team will be playing in the same bowl game for two consecutive years;
B. whether two teams that played against one another in the regular season will be paired against one another in a bowl game;
C. whether the same two teams will play against each other in a bowl game for two consecutive years; and
D. whether alternative pairings may have greater or lesser appeal to college football fans as measured by expected ticket sales for the bowls and by expected television interest, and the consequent financial impact on Fox and the bowls.

10/12/2006 10:11:59 PM

Ernie
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blah blah blah usc #1

10/12/2006 10:13:16 PM

Sleik
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Reggie Bush for Heisman again

10/12/2006 10:31:16 PM

PackGuitar
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notre dame is sooo fucking stupid to have that contract... or i mean that contract that they have is fucking stupid

10/12/2006 11:57:43 PM

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i think spielman (whoever is commentating the usf game) just said, or strongly thinks that, the loser of "undefeated michigan or ohio state" (if occurs) wont get in the bcs...

WRONG

[Edited on October 22, 2006 at 8:23 PM. Reason : ?]

10/22/2006 8:22:32 PM

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won't get a BCS bowl period, or won't play for the NC?

10/22/2006 8:36:31 PM

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people don't realize that there are FIVE at large spots now.

10/22/2006 8:37:18 PM

PackGuitar
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he meant... "period"

cause i obviously agree they probably wont get in national championship but the craziest thing would be if the loser stayed number two in the computers if all undefeateds lose and then its just a rematch

10/22/2006 8:46:14 PM

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The new BCS poll is interesting. It shows me one thing. That WVU, if they win out, will be at worst #3 in the BCS. They can't fall behind Auburn if they both win out because the WVU SOS is greater then Auburn from here on out (and that means there computer ranking can only go up compared to Auburns).

The only question is will USC lose a game and will the loser of the UM/tOSU game drop to #3? That is what we'll have to watch for...

10/22/2006 8:59:21 PM

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This tidbit is interesting:

Quote :
"3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:

A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls."


15. Boise State

ACC:

12. Clemson
17. Boston College
24. Georgia Tech

Can't see Clemson or BC running the table.

[Edited on October 22, 2006 at 9:03 PM. Reason : /]

10/22/2006 9:02:14 PM

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what will really piss me off is if Clemson runs the table, but BC runs the table too, we miss the ACC championship game, and then Notre Dame takes an at large bid to the BCS instead of Clemson even when they will have 2 losses.


fuck notre dame
and fuck boston college

10/22/2006 9:25:50 PM

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^ seconded

10/22/2006 9:30:56 PM

phishnlou
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^^ say what now

well maybe you shouldnt have lost to BC

and maybe instead of playing florida atlantic, louisiana tech, temple and south carolina you should have scheduled someone

[Edited on October 22, 2006 at 9:38 PM. Reason : d]

10/22/2006 9:34:49 PM

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^lol yea, we will consider not scheduling South Carolina next year...i'll email the AD

10/22/2006 9:44:28 PM

phishnlou
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terrible retort

10/22/2006 9:44:46 PM

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should schedule teams like stanford, navy, army, and air force instead

10/22/2006 9:56:47 PM

PackGuitar
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notre dame will NOT be in with 2 losses

10/22/2006 9:59:15 PM

phishnlou
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well there are 5 bcs games now

and a lot can happen between now and this apparently assumed 2nd loss

10/22/2006 10:02:18 PM

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"should schedule teams like stanford, navy, army, and air force instead"


and michigan and usc and all the other major progams that find their way onto the schedule every single year

good point though

10/22/2006 10:06:40 PM

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there is nothing wrong with notre dames schedule

10/22/2006 10:12:32 PM

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im just saying that since they are America's "golden team" the BCS is more likely to shaft a more deserving team just because its ND and they have a little bitch contract.

10/22/2006 10:16:07 PM

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you are making lofty fucking assumptions that clemson would be somehow more deserving

10/22/2006 10:31:32 PM

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" more likely to shaft a more deserving team"

10/22/2006 10:33:45 PM

PackGuitar
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attn clemson: just dont lose again and you have nothing to worry about heyo TIGERRRRS

10/22/2006 11:23:48 PM

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"im just saying that since they are America's "golden team" the BCS is more likely to shaft a more deserving team just because its ND and they have a little bitch contract."


No s***, the bowl system has never been anything more than a popularity contest for any team at any point. How do you think we got the ACC #2 bowl spot to the Gator Bowl when we finished 4th in the conference?

10/23/2006 6:46:57 AM

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http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6116488

10/29/2006 8:16:36 PM

PackGuitar
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michigan/osu rematch is getting more and more hyped

10/29/2006 8:28:40 PM

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If Louisville wins Thursday I think you have a good chance at that. I still think WVU plays in the Champ game if they win out though.. so if you want to see that root for UL Thursaday...

[Edited on October 29, 2006 at 8:32 PM. Reason : personally I don't want that to happen.. i don't want to see those 2 teams play twice...]

10/29/2006 8:32:12 PM

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I seriously doubt tOSU and Michigan will play for the NC. Hell, if UF wins out and makes it through the SEC title game, I think they play the winner of that game. And the tOSU and Michigan game is getting way too much hype. I suspect that the game won't be as close as the experts think. Ohio State will play for the NC.

10/29/2006 8:32:56 PM

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Like I said before UF is going to take a major hit on the computers because they have Vandy, FSU, and 1-AA Western Carolina left on the schedule. The SEC Champ game will make up for SOME of that but I think Auburn has a better shot, even if they don't win their division, personally...

[Edited on October 29, 2006 at 8:36 PM. Reason : x]

10/29/2006 8:35:20 PM

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as a michigan fan i'd want that, but for college football i dont think a rematch should take place... and yes, ohio state is too good this year... they will have to play the worst game of the year and michigan the best for it to be any good

10/29/2006 8:36:31 PM

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if fucking west virginia makes the championship game, I will cry

10/29/2006 8:36:41 PM

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tOSU??? "the" OSU,,, hahaha pathetic if thats what you mean... go LOUISVILLE

10/29/2006 8:38:18 PM

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dont think for a second west virginia wouldnt be able to hang with osu or michigan

10/29/2006 8:41:37 PM

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"Like I said before UF is going to take a major hit on the computers because they have Vandy, FSU, and 1-AA Western Carolina left on the schedule. The SEC Champ game will make up for SOME of that but I think Auburn has a better shot, even if they don't win their division, personally..."


south carolina as well. could be worse. if you wanna talk pathetic end of year schedules, look at GT.

[Edited on October 29, 2006 at 9:10 PM. Reason : ncsu, unc, duke, and the struggling dawgs...har har har]

10/29/2006 9:09:35 PM

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so if michigan loses in the horseshoe and wins in the rematch in glendale.... (if a rematch occurs)

you give full credit, and the title, to michigan for their win being on neutral turf, unlike osu's win if they do in the shoe
correct?

11/1/2006 3:21:22 PM

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I will bet my left nut that there will be no OSU/Mich rematch for the NC.

11/1/2006 3:24:13 PM

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we need a 16 team brackett system

could you imagine the types of matchups that would create?

unbelievably awesome types - that's what types!

you know how excited Vitale gets every time Duke vs. Kentucky makes its way to the brackets? well Corso's head will explode at consistently seeing national powerhouses square off several times over on the road to the championship.

every year, powerhouse teams like the Wolverines and the Volunteers, Buckeyes and Trojans, Fighting Irish, the Longhorns, and Gators. which underrated ACC or Big East team will pull an upset...which powerhouse of old Nebraska or Alabama will showup and reclaim the glory...imagine the cinderella teams - the Wolfpack of course.

do the powers that be have no foresight? they are sacrificing unparalleled ratings and revenues for an unfounded fear of change.

the ONLY negative is that student athletes will be pushed further to the limit via extended seasons that will spill further into January. hopefully the current system is a hybrid way of easing us into playoffs. one can only hope.

11/1/2006 3:59:03 PM

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^16 teams is way too many....that would call for 4 more games and another month to the season; this isn't like basketball where teams can play 2 games in 3 days

i think six is a good number. have the 3 play the six, the four play the five, and the winner of three six play number 2 and winner of four/five play number 1

then winners of those square off for the title. if you can't make it into the top 6 in the BCS then you can't make a huge complaint about not getting a shot (you can make an argument, just not an overly convincing one); this also makes regular season games still mean something, and you can still have the other bowls for the other schools.

11/1/2006 4:03:49 PM

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^6 is cool, 8 at the max

11/1/2006 4:11:06 PM

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I kind of like a 4 or 8 team bracket. It wouldn't add too many games, plus it would give a more accurate championship game

11/1/2006 4:11:33 PM

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8 is fine

11/1/2006 4:25:05 PM

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16 is way too many. That gives an opportunity to a team like Clemson to get hot and win it all, even though they are clearly not the best team in the nation, nor are they one of the top teams in the nation or their conference even.

The max should be 8.

11/1/2006 4:27:45 PM

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Cal ahead of Tenn = bullshit

11/1/2006 4:32:52 PM

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