Bill LeMay made a great point on his talk show today:

Since winning election in 2000, the Bush administration, like any conservative administration, has has all of the mainstream media (aside from some people at Fox) aligned against it. The only exception was for a breif moment following 9/11. Look at the headlines going around right now:

"Is Iraq falling into chaos?"

The headline, as it states, cannot know for sure whether this is true. At the same time, it pushes the idea that, yes, the war is chaos. Similar predictions have appeared in the mainstream media all throughout the war on terror. "Will the Taliban Take Back Over?", "Will Thousands of More People Die in Iraq?". With headlines like these, its clear the media wishes to push an agenda that the wars we are involved in right now are futile and that we will fail. At the same time, we see scathing pieces on intelligence and counter-terror efforts here at home. What is missing here? The good that has come out of these measures. The media has systematically brought down morale at home, and now we find ourselves on the verge of a change in direction which could prolong the war. Now, personally, I think we should have gone it much swifter to begin with, but with so much attention payed to reducing collateral damage (which liberals should love, but they always ignore that we have been careful, and thus prolonged their war by following what they should support anyway, those peace-lovers!). I also am NOT 100% sold on this administration and its policies (immigration and spending are out of control). We will need a real strong conservative to fix these after Bush leaves.

So where do those of us who want the truth go to find it? Well, LeMay mentioned that this administration, unfortunately, has forgotten about the lifeblood of information for many Americans: the system of media alternatives. I'm talking about talk radio, online newspapers, political commentators, authors, and a handful of brave academics who wish to spit in the face of the ivory tower that is liberal academia. I urge many of you to try finding new sources for your news, compare the differences between the stories and how they are reported (and what is even reported!), and hopefully determine the real truth.

10/18/2006 4:26:55 PM

Randy's conservative word/catchphrase of the day:
ivory tower [of liberal academia]:

n.

A place or attitude of retreat, especially preoccupation with lofty, remote, or intellectual considerations rather than practical everyday life.

10/18/2006 4:29:30 PM

"Is Iraq falling into funky freshness?"

10/18/2006 4:40:59 PM

liberals dont see the liberal media bias because a fish doesnt know its wet

10/18/2006 4:41:30 PM

so if there was a conservative bias then I would be right in saying so because obviously you cant see it.

also, its a corporate bias you dumb fucks

10/18/2006 4:43:41 PM

That actually is a good point. The majority of the news we see around us (newspapers, tv news, networks) does have a distinctive bias. with all the media in our modern society, its no wonder that so many people who cant venture out of the bubble cant think freely and think to pursue alternative news sources.

^lots of kinds of news sells. look how many conservatives get #1 best-selling books.

[Edited on October 18, 2006 at 4:45 PM. Reason : .]

10/18/2006 4:44:20 PM

so then why is media matters the devil? It is an alt news source (which i dont use)

a corporate bias is merely saying that the news which is seen is the news that will benifit the corps to the fullest. Violence also sells which will explain alot about our culture as a whole.

Also Im sure those best selling books are making people mucho gusto and the majority are about how the liberals are devils and should be removed (which is violent)



[Edited on October 18, 2006 at 4:49 PM. Reason : !]

10/18/2006 4:45:46 PM

Quote :

""Will the Taliban Take Back Over?", "Will Thousands of More People Die in Iraq?". With headlines like these, its clear the media wishes to push an agenda that the wars we are involved in right now are futile and that we will fail."

Really? When I see a headline like that, I don't think we will fail. I just think "those are valid questions".

Seems like you don't know that you are wet, Randy.

10/18/2006 4:53:55 PM

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"The media has systematically brought down morale at home, and now we find ourselves on the verge of a change in direction which could prolong the war."

I'm not sure how any other direction could be longer than

"stay the course"

"we don't know how to win"

"this is gonna be a long war"

10/18/2006 4:57:39 PM

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"the liberals are devils and should be removed (which is violent)"

please provide proof of this from a bestselling book. sarcasm and satire does not count.

10/18/2006 4:57:51 PM

Having the presidency, house, senate, and the media "in the hands" of just one party is not a good idea.

Neither party should ever control all four. Thats my take on it.

10/18/2006 4:57:59 PM

http://www.mediaresearch.org/realitycheck/2006/fax20061011.asp

a comparison between the number of reports on the Foley scandal and the number on the Mel Reynolds one.

http://www.mrc.org/SpecialReports/2006/sum/sum090806.asp

analysis of the media reports on the war on terror

http://www.mediaresearch.org/projects/worst/welcome.asp

the 10 worst distortions of the most recent election. have you forgotten about Dan Rather's forgery, the ignoring, and then later the bashing, of the Swift Boat Vets, and the rumors of the draft which only the media was talking about?

10/18/2006 5:06:15 PM

Do you have nothing to say about the Savages, Colmes, Humes, Hannitys, OReilleys, Limbaughs (spellings all screwed on this one)

not to mention the fact that ALL the media outlets are showing Tony Snow and his spin on a daily basis.

10/18/2006 5:10:51 PM

Nothing to say? They are what I refer to when I say "alternative sources". Talk radio is one of the most broadly reaching balances to the typical bias you see.

10/18/2006 5:13:08 PM

Saying they area "alternatives" would probably be an insult to all of them.

Is that what you are saying?

10/18/2006 5:14:22 PM

so has the media completely changed its direction from years ago when all I could find on television was coverage of Clinton and Lewinsky?

10/18/2006 5:14:32 PM

^^how is that an insult? they are the "alternatives" to the entrenched media giants in ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, The NY Times, Washington Post...all liberally skewed sources.

10/18/2006 5:17:27 PM

Was it ABC that aired that 9/11 documentary?

10/18/2006 5:18:29 PM

ABC did air that, you're right. Despite the threats from Bill Clinton, they aired it. I guess they aren't always wrong

10/18/2006 5:20:56 PM

because normally their nightly news is pretty good. (despite the 9/11 "documentary")

10/18/2006 5:24:49 PM

Quote :

"Bill LeMay made a great point on his talk show today"

I don't buy that.

10/18/2006 5:30:31 PM

so all conservatives in the news are alt sources.

if you look at it that way all thats left are liberals

gg

oh and ...dont conseratives have more important things to make up and complain about?

[Edited on October 18, 2006 at 5:56 PM. Reason : ?]

10/18/2006 5:54:38 PM

So let's break down what LeMay (ahahahaahaahaha you take him seriously) said:

"Liberal Media is bad.

Conservative Alt-media (aka me) is good."


AM pundits remind their listeners every 15 minutes of this belief.

How is this a good, point, and how can LeMay be credited with it?




[Edited on October 18, 2006 at 6:05 PM. Reason : .]

10/18/2006 6:05:23 PM

First off, I could say the same thing about you for taking most of the stuff you take seriously so seriously. I'd rather not rely on liars like CBS for my news, thanks.

While this point maybe hardly new, it is pertinant that we realize that the Bush administration has failed to capitalize on their support in the media sources outside the mainstream (is that a better term for you?). i actually read quite a few sources. I typically read CNN, then Fox, then some sources I'll only get trolled for mentioning. You should all do yourself a favor and start reading ALL sides. I doubt many (or any) of you make an attempt to do that, prefering to shun free thought to keep in lock-step with the "no blood for oil", "bush lied people died" crowd.

More proof in today's News and Observer: Danny Mansell, Republican congressional candidate right here in Raleigh (district 2, some of you might live there, i personally live in Vernon Robinson's new district ), is crucified for his tax debts. You have to read deep to see that he was struggling to take care of his mother during this time and thus didnt have the chance to pay them. Family before Feds, i suppose. Mansell supports abolishing the IRS and instituting a new tax system, bet the N&O won't report that. I'm sure people around here would love to hear that plan.

[Edited on October 18, 2006 at 7:57 PM. Reason : .]

10/18/2006 7:45:35 PM

I get all the sides from TWW

thanks tdub!!!!!!

10/18/2006 8:37:39 PM

Apparently the WPO, NYT, and Retuers are left leaning, but doing a poor job of it
http://mediamatters.org/items/200610180019

ABC being a pretty lazy "leftist" organization
http://mediamatters.org/items/200610180017

NYT, CNN skewing things towards the right
http://mediamatters.org/items/200610180016

CNN is certainly unbiased
http://mediamatters.org/items/200610180011
http://mediamatters.org/items/200610180010



What were you saying Randy? STOP WITH THE KOOL AID

10/19/2006 9:12:36 AM

Seriously Randy

I can go to just as many sites that you think are pinkos and find just as much crap about how the media has a conservative bias.

If you're so far to the right than everything has a liberal bias.

10/19/2006 9:20:39 AM

"Alternatvie" new sources such as http://www.newsmax.com/ perhaps? And btw it's not trolling when someone points out incredible sources.

And the N&O is a conservative newspaper, dumbass.

10/19/2006 9:28:57 AM

have a good time trying to prove that.

10/19/2006 2:29:26 PM

Have fun living under your rock.

10/19/2006 2:49:16 PM

i probably should start going to to BBC

10/19/2006 2:50:08 PM

Listening to the BBC is fine and all, but it gets a bit hard to digest when 75% of their interviews are with people who barely speak English so it makes it hard to follow the point. I am speaking solely from listening to the BBC world service on NPR but other than that they are an excellent source for news. I am sure there will be disagreement on this, but the most unbiased discussion that I have found on the radio is Brad and Britt. They call everyone out on their stupidity. It would be nice if more people weren't afraid of being labeled as a fence sitter for telling it like it is.

10/19/2006 3:17:58 PM

When I was younger and more impressionable, I trusted IndyMedia.org. Then I realized that anyone can post an article there and half of their articles are typically from some random community groups in Bangor, Maine or Bumfuck, Australia.

Now I go to BBC World Service for 24 hour news, or The Economist or CBS for financial/economic stuff.

[Edited on October 19, 2006 at 3:30 PM. Reason : .]

10/19/2006 3:28:59 PM

Quote :

"I am sure there will be disagreement on this, but the most unbiased discussion that I have found on the radio is Brad and Britt."

Agreed, I bounce between them and NPR on the way to work.

I mean, I don't know how more of an unbiased story you can get from a twice Bush Jr voter now turned unsure about the Republican party.

10/19/2006 4:14:40 PM

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"'Disheartening' Bloodshed U.S. commander in Iraq offers bleak report on operations as 42 die in new Ramadan attacks"

DISHEARTENING!@?!@$? BLEAK!!@@#?!@?! GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER FOX NEWS.

10/19/2006 4:46:33 PM

bttt

1/16/2007 6:15:39 PM

quality thread, would read again

1/16/2007 6:23:42 PM

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"i personally live in Vernon Robinson's new district -Randy"

you're kidding right? in the last election, i'm taking the percentage of votes he got (~37% iirc) to be an indicator of how many people voted party line Rep., because virtually anyone with functional equipment atop their shoulders would realize the guy is a complete loon, regardless of what you think of Brad Miller.

1/18/2007 11:29:19 AM