Feb 20, 1925 - Nov 21, 2006

11/21/2006 11:59:36 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/11/21/obit.altman.ap/index.html

This guy was a fucking master. It's a shame his last movie had to be A Prairie Home Companion, but he will definitely be missed.

I guess it's time for PTA to fully take the reins.




[Edited on November 21, 2006 at 12:02 PM. Reason : ]

11/21/2006 12:01:00 PM

Just saw it at the top of http://www.cnn.com

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"Robert Altman, director of "M-A-S-H," "Nashville" and "The Player," has died, according to his production company, The Associated Press reports."

[Edited on November 21, 2006 at 12:01 PM. Reason : AP]

11/21/2006 12:01:19 PM

i guess it's kind of apt that APC was his last movie, considering the 'closing up shop' subject matter

11/21/2006 12:20:35 PM

There's nothing shameful about A Prairie Home Companion. It's a fine movie.

[Edited on November 21, 2006 at 12:30 PM. Reason : ...]

11/21/2006 12:26:47 PM

i thought an allman brother i didnt know about died

11/21/2006 12:41:51 PM

This is fucking tragic.

That's it, I'm playing Suicide is Painless until I feel better.

[Edited on November 21, 2006 at 12:53 PM. Reason : .]

11/21/2006 12:49:55 PM

Finally, now we don't have to deal with his shitty movies anymore.

11/21/2006 2:06:19 PM

I didn't know anyone had to deal with his movies before. But I guess you're right, now that that hack is out of the way we can look forward to the next epic, Gronke picture.

[Edited on November 21, 2006 at 2:10 PM. Reason : ...]

11/21/2006 2:09:39 PM

That man is one of those "I've made a handful of good movies early in my career so now everything I shit on is going to turn out gold" kind of people. Hell, even reviewers for "The Company" said that the film was mediocre but that "diehard altman fans will probably think it is oscar worthy."

11/21/2006 2:12:29 PM

You're right, because The Company (a movie about fucking ballet dancers!) sucked then the entire career of a prolific filmmaker should be illegitimatized.

11/21/2006 2:42:10 PM

MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[Edited on November 21, 2006 at 2:52 PM. Reason : ^I like The Company......Nashville is my favorite though]

11/21/2006 2:45:18 PM

who the hell are these people

11/21/2006 2:46:08 PM

some crackas

11/21/2006 3:11:05 PM

I can name a string of shitty movies he has done:

The Company
Dr. T. and the Women
Cookie's Fortune
The Gingerbread Man
Kansas City
Jazz '34
Pret-a-Porter
Vincent and Theo
Beyond Therapy

and that's just the last 10 years...


Not to mention Brewser McCloud is one of my worst film experiences, and Three Women is one of the most overrated shitty metaphorical peices of crap I've ever laid eyes on.

If you look at his films he has an average of below 6 on most of them, the only good rated ones are Short Cuts, Nashville, Mash, McCabe & Mrs. Miller.

Point is, the guy lived on for too long and was way too prolific. Stanley Kubrick lived roughly the exact same time span (a tad shorter) and only made around 14 feature films which are all excellent, compared to Altman's 100+.


Oh and finally:



[Edited on November 21, 2006 at 3:41 PM. Reason : ]

11/21/2006 3:40:08 PM

11/21/2006 3:52:29 PM

^^I can't comment on most of those movies as I haven't seen them. However, I do take umbrage with you saying

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"Point is, the guy lived on for too long and was way too prolific."

What the fuck does that mean? You're telling me the guy should have died sooner? That he should have made less films? That'd be like me telling you to sell less popcorn or to play less video games or to look at less obscene and disturbing things on the internet. Granted, I probably have told you those things before, but you should as I hope Robert Altman would, tell whoever tells you how to live your life to "Fuck off."

11/21/2006 3:57:56 PM

He DID live too long. He had another person's heart for years. That's an affront to God.

11/21/2006 4:04:29 PM

^^ No, I'm saying that he had the output rate of a bollywood filmmaker. I'd rather him have produced 10 awesome movies than 100 shitty ones.

11/21/2006 4:19:18 PM

He directed 36 feature films.

11/21/2006 4:31:35 PM

im gonna go out and say I had no idea who this dude was before I clicked this thread

11/21/2006 4:34:28 PM

^so you suck at music AND movies. bravo, sir. bravo.

[Edited on November 21, 2006 at 4:36 PM. Reason : .]

11/21/2006 4:35:55 PM

fuck

this is the saddest i've ever been from a celebrity death

I was actually just listening to his commentary on the prairie home companion dvd last night, hoping he had a few films left in him

11/21/2006 5:08:36 PM

i have no idea who he is either

11/21/2006 5:13:40 PM

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"I'd rather him have produced 10 awesome movies than 100 shitty ones."

if we could just think about this sentence for a moment...



mkay

I have liked pretty much every Kubrick film I've seen. Liked a lot of Scorsese. Hitchcock, Spielberg, Welles - all those guys have made some great movies that I've really enjoyed. But I have never loved any of their films. Robert Altman has made at least 3 films that I love with all my heart.

I'm certainly glad he didn't live his life to please some dude who would've "rather him produce 10 movies"

[Edited on November 21, 2006 at 5:26 PM. Reason : eh, maybe clockwork orange, but still]

11/21/2006 5:25:15 PM

11/21/2006 5:34:06 PM

37 movies from 1970 to 2006 = 1 per year = too much. That's practically making movie after movie without delay, if you include pre and post production.

My main problem that I have with Altman, that I've had since I had the "Stanley Kubrick and Robert Altman" class at NCSU, is that he has no comprehensible style. Aside from having overlapping audio and casting Shelley Duvall in every fucking movie he makes he has absolutely no "vision" or "metaphor" in any of his films that make any sense. He completely shoots a hole in the auteur theory.

11/21/2006 5:55:35 PM

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"He completely shoots a hole in the auteur theory."

That's a bad thing?

[Edited on November 21, 2006 at 6:03 PM. Reason : P.S. I never got an explanation as to why there's a human trailer when you showed the real trailers]

11/21/2006 5:58:09 PM

mozart totally sucked because he wrote so much music too.

11/21/2006 5:58:28 PM

I give up. I guess I'll have to find some people who don't have Altman's dick in their collective mouths.

11/21/2006 6:01:17 PM

i'm not really a big altman fan, but your logic is terrible.

[Edited on November 21, 2006 at 6:03 PM. Reason : n]

11/21/2006 6:03:00 PM

God when'd you take that class? I took it in either fall 03 or spring 04--can't remember.

11/21/2006 7:01:50 PM

Probably the same one. Check school tool.

11/21/2006 9:19:04 PM

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"i'm not really a big altman fan, but your logic is terrible."

his logic is fine man, most great directors do not make movie after movie after movie after movie like altman did.



[Edited on November 21, 2006 at 9:28 PM. Reason : if i'm not mistaken]

11/21/2006 9:27:47 PM

Most don't, but Woody Allen does.

11/22/2006 1:05:39 AM

Yeah well let's not get into that one

11/22/2006 1:12:11 AM

does this guy remind you of woody allen at all?

11/22/2006 1:14:14 AM

this is sad. it doesn't even matter if some of his movies sucked, dude did some great shit. "the long goodbye"= one of the first times the world saw arnold schwarzenegger=awesome

11/22/2006 3:36:24 AM

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"Most don't, but Woody Allen does did."

[Edited on November 22, 2006 at 5:27 PM. Reason : .]

11/22/2006 5:26:57 PM

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"his logic is fine man, most great directors do not make movie after movie after movie after movie like altman did. "

so since he DID make lots of movies, his movies are therefore bad?

it's horrible logic and so is your defense of it.

11/22/2006 5:28:40 PM

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"Finally, now we don't have to deal with his shitty movies anymore."

Obviously you will have to deal with them GOD. In heaven that is...

11/22/2006 5:36:57 PM

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"Most don't, but Woody Allen does did still does."

Scoop was a solid movie. Match Point was good. I think both Melinda and Melinda and Anything Else are underrated. In the course of 30 years he's only had one string (beginning with Small Time Crooks - which some people do kinda like) of consecutively not good movies.

11/23/2006 3:48:49 PM

man i thought i was posting something new...i looked at like 3 posts and was like hey this guy sounds like woody allen

then i read it just now and see freaking 2 posts above mine the guy says something about woody allen

i seriously did post it cause thats what i thought...even though it doesnt matter anyway

11/23/2006 3:54:53 PM

Altman and Allen are both great American filmmakers who produced a large number of movies. After that, the similarities (as pertaining to film) between the two end.

[Edited on November 23, 2006 at 4:11 PM. Reason : ...]

11/23/2006 4:09:08 PM

I don't think Allen's more recent stuff lives up to some of the earlier ones (mainly 1970s-1980s) by any means, but that's just my opinion.

11/23/2006 4:34:06 PM

^his recent stuff may not live up to the quality of his early stuff, but that doesn't mean they aren't quality. And I'd say as recently as Sweet and Lowdown (1999) his quality remained as high as it was at his peak. Now, I agree that he hasn't been quite as high in most recent years. But "not-quite-as-high" Woody Allen can still be immensly enjoyable and significantly better than most.

11/23/2006 4:50:41 PM