Basic background story:

I'm in PE101, professor gives exams over WebCT. He said final exam would be available during class time on Monday. We get this e-mail on Sunday night:

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"The final exam for your course will be available during the regular class time on Monday, November 20th or Tuesday, November 21st. The link to the final exam will be located in the 'exams' folder on the WebCT Vista course homepage. Remember: The link will only be available during the scheduled class time. If you do not see the link at that time be sure to refresh your browser window. There will be between 50 and 60 questions on the final exam. The question formats are matching, multiple response, multiple choice and true/false. You will have a maximum of 50 minutes to complete the exam. The exam will be due by the end of the class time. LATE SUBMISSIONS WILL BE PENALIZED 15 POINTS PER MINUTE! You may take the exam from any location that you feel comfortable. However, it it YOUR responsibility to confirm that the computer you select is capable of accessing and using WebCT Vista. Do not wait until the last minute to choose a location. If you experience any problems accessing or submitting the exam please contact me immediately using the online chat feature, email, or by telephone. My contact information will be listed below."

So, from that e-mail, I am under the impression that he is giving an additional time for people to take the final on Tuesday during when our regular class meets (M-W at 2:35-3:20pm), so I log on Tuesday at 2:35pm to see nothing up. I frantically e-mail him and call him. This is his e-mail response:

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"Matt- I'm afraid that you have missed the final exam. Today is Tuesday. Your class meets on Monday at 2:35 PM not Tuesday. "

I talked to him over the phone and explained why I misunderstood him, but he said I was at fault. He said he was sending that to all his classes, including ones that meet on Monday and ones that meet on Tuesday. Fortunately, he will let me schedule a final in his office, written, with no extra resources, and it will be harder. While I'm somewhat angry at that, I am glad he's letting me retake it. However I still think he is partly at fault for the confusion, thoughts?


btw J_Hova missed it too for the same reason


[Edited on November 21, 2006 at 3:32 PM. Reason : ]

11/21/2006 3:31:44 PM

i cant read good apparently

11/21/2006 3:36:01 PM

I mean, if he had put "during the regular class time on Monday, or Tuesday DEPENDING ON WHEN YOUR CLASS MEETS"

11/21/2006 3:43:17 PM

i would have assumed that during the regular class time meant when you regularly went to class

11/21/2006 4:27:59 PM

I don't think the professor is at fault. his wording may not be the best, but I understood what he was saying the first time I read it. ultimately it is your responsibility to seek clarification.

making you take a more difficult, written final in his office isn't unreasonable.

11/21/2006 4:37:44 PM

I understood what it meant :shrugs:

11/21/2006 4:53:18 PM

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"thoughts?"

There's a reason reading comprehension is on the SAT?

11/21/2006 4:53:53 PM

Be thankful that he is letting you retake it at all.

11/21/2006 5:27:31 PM

So both God & J_Hova missed the exam?

11/21/2006 6:27:53 PM

are you taking it for credit only?

11/21/2006 8:28:21 PM

you should have just done it during YOUR class time and you wouldn't be in this situation

procrastination is the devil...what was the point in waiting til Tuesday?

11/21/2006 8:44:18 PM

^ Because I can barely make the 15 minute walk to get to class from my previous class, to walk to my car and drive through midday traffic to my home computer would get me home at like 2:45ish, and I wanted the most time possible to take the exam.

11/21/2006 9:23:58 PM

do they have computers on campus????

11/21/2006 9:43:35 PM

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"So both God & J_Hova missed the exam?"

aahah

and yea i got it credit only so i really dont gives a fuck, God might tho

heres to guessing on the written exam

and I wasnt procrastination, couldnt make it to a computer in time

11/21/2006 9:47:20 PM

^^ No, but I much rather would prefer to take it in my own home where I'm comfortable than a computer lab with people going in and out and talking and such. If I'd have known that I had to take it on Monday things would have been different.

11/21/2006 9:56:06 PM

Just admit it.

You were being a lazy fuck and you were like "oh i dont feel like taking this right now and if i act like i didnt understand the email he'll understand and let me take it later"

I dont believe for one second that you were surprised when you sat at the computer on tuesday and didnt see an available exam.

Dude, i understand. Im a lazy fuck too. Thats why i know exactly what was going through your head when you did this.

If you'd been a freshman you'd never have pulled this stunt, but being a 5th or 6th year senior you were like man PE is a joke i can get away with this and make it up later.

Makes sense, and that appears to be what happened.


But honestly theres no reason to get on brentroad.com and make this fake ass thread about what went down. You dont have to justify your lie to us, just to the professor.

Im a good liar so i recognize other liars from a mile away. You're about to deny everything i just said, but Im just telling you I know how things went down.

11/21/2006 10:11:50 PM

I'm honestly telling you the truth. Based on that e-mail I was sure he was offering us two opportunities to take the exam. I wanted to have plenty of time beforehand and not rush home from my class directly beforehand to take the exam. I'm frustrated that I misunderstood what he was saying, and I think he could have worded his e-mail better. In fact, here is the response I sent him to his e-mail:

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"Thank you for allowing me to make up the final exam. I will schedule a time with you to retake it on Monday. I hope you can understand the confusion in the sentence "during regular class time Monday or Tuesday" and how it would cause me to think that the exam would be available during two time slots. Looking back on it, I can understand what you meant by the phrase, referring to your two classes, however I think it could have been made a little more effective written as such: "The final exam will be made available during your regular class times on Monday or Tuesday. This means that if your class meets Mondays and Wednesdays, the exam will be available ONLY on Monday, and if your class meets Tuesday and Thursday, the exam will be available ONLY on Tuesday. Students who have class M/W will not be able to access the exam on Tuesday and vice versa.""

11/21/2006 11:04:12 PM

let it go before he cancels his offer to let you retake it

11/21/2006 11:08:33 PM

yea I think my tennis teacher failed someone with a broken wrist b/c they couldn't take the performance part of the final

11/21/2006 11:31:35 PM

his response to your last email should read:

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"the exam was scheduled on Monday, November 20th for your section, there will not be a make-up exam"

basically.. you should have left it at "Thank you for allowing me to make up the final exam. I will schedule a time with you to retake it on Monday."

[Edited on November 22, 2006 at 12:06 AM. Reason : *]

11/22/2006 12:04:32 AM

The only reason I didn't is because of how short he was with me on the phone. He came off like it was 100% my fault for just being an idiot, and I was trying to explain to him why I was confused. I mean, he is a nice guy in class... it was really out of character for him.. maybe he had a bad day .

11/22/2006 1:15:25 AM

Probably because its college and you gave him a lame excuse for missing a final

11/22/2006 1:45:27 AM

He did say

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"during the regular class time"

which logically would be when you had class, at least that's how I would have viewed it.

Besides its a final exam, making assumptions about something like that without asking for clarification is dangerous, and you know what they say when people assume............

But as long as you're credit only it still shouldn't be that bad making it up if you at least know a little about the stuff.

[Edited on November 22, 2006 at 1:56 AM. Reason : .]

11/22/2006 1:52:42 AM

^I'm taking it for a grade. As far as I know the exam will count fully, it will just be harder and I'll have to actually study for it.

11/22/2006 2:49:50 AM

or/and.... theres a difference, learn it... and this wont happen again

11/22/2006 3:07:06 AM

Well, I swallowed my pride and I sent him an apology e-mail for the previous one, stating that I was just frustrated about the incident and that I appreciate him allowing me to take the exam again.

11/22/2006 3:11:44 AM

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"it was 100% my fault for just being an idiot"

Hard to argue with that.

11/22/2006 8:22:59 PM