dreadnought All American 6473 Posts user info edit post |
so my grandfather died a while back and left my dad everything... lo and behold going through the garage a few weeks ago my dad found some of my grandfathers pistols (i think it's like 3 old revolvers) and i've been wanting a gun for some time to shoot as a hobby.
well my grandfather probably got these guns from business dealings (used car salesman) there are probably no registration or anything for them. how do i go about getting them registered. and if the SN# turns up as stolen, will they try to take the gun?
PS. yes i've done some researching on my own, but found nothing that applies to my situation.
[Edited on November 27, 2006 at 12:17 PM. Reason : .] 11/27/2006 12:14:06 PM |
1 All American 2599 Posts user info edit post |
Move out of Durham.
http://www.jus.state.nc.us/NCJA/ncfirearmslaws.pdf p32 11/27/2006 12:33:18 PM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
it's a gift gun, family heirloom
the last thing I'd ever do is to take a gun without paperwork and get it registered 11/27/2006 12:35:39 PM |
dreadnought All American 6473 Posts user info edit post |
yea i started reading that pdf link before but it doesn't seem like it has anything to do with what happens if i try to register an unregistered gun
Quote : | "t's a gift gun, family heirloom
the last thing I'd ever do is to take a gun without paperwork and get it registered
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and i want the option to take it to a range and shoot it... i assume you have to have paperwork to do that lol
[Edited on November 27, 2006 at 12:38 PM. Reason : .]11/27/2006 12:37:54 PM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
no... as long as you aren't carrying it illegally
no one has to have a license to own a firearm
you can carry it to the range and blast away 11/27/2006 12:43:47 PM |
Pyro Suspended 4836 Posts user info edit post |
You don't register the pistol(except in durham), you register yourself each time you want to buy one.
If you really want to be safe, go to your county's sheriff office and apply for a pistol permit($5 or so). When you get the permit, throw it away. As far as they know now you bought that pistol legally from your grandfather. Lather rinse repeat for every handgun.
But like they said, I'd just use it and not worry about it. It would only become a problem if you shot someone or something, and in that case you'd have bigger worries than a lack of a pistol permit.
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Quote : | "i want the option to take it to a range and shoot it... i assume you have to have paperwork to do that lol " |
Nope. The assumption is that you had to pass a background check to buy it in the first place. No paperwork necessary after the sale is complete.
[Edited on November 27, 2006 at 1:10 PM. Reason : .]11/27/2006 1:06:18 PM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and i want the option to take it to a range and shoot it" |
How old are these pistols? Depending on the age / type you might want to have them inspected before you shoot them. FWIW11/27/2006 1:40:31 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
you don't show a range shit to shoot your gun 11/27/2006 4:33:18 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's a gift gun, family heirloom
the last thing I'd ever do is to take a gun without paperwork and get it registered" |
FTW.11/27/2006 4:35:33 PM |
beatsunc All American 10749 Posts user info edit post |
it would be nice to know that they are not stolen so you aren't committing any felonies by possessing it. 11/27/2006 4:39:01 PM |
pmc Veteran 372 Posts user info edit post |
IANAL, but, straight from the Justice web document in the first reply:
Quote : | " In addition, this State law has been interpreted to require that a pistol permit be obtained by the receiver of a handgun when such person inherits a pistol as a result of the death of another person. The permit should be given to and retained by the seller or donor of the handgun. In such a case, the permit should be given to the executor or receiver of the estate of the deceased person." |
The proper procedure probably should've gone something like this: 1. Your dad inherits the pistols. He goes to the county sheriff's office and plunks down $15 for three purchase permits, which for some dumb reason are required under state law even when you're inheriting a handgun. He waits five days, and goes back to pick up the permits. 2. Your dad takes possession of the pistols, ignoring the fact that he was already in possession of the pistols, because according to state law, he was supposed to have obtained a purchase permit prior to receiving a handgun (isn't this fun?). He then gives the three purchase permits to... um... himself. 3. You decide you want to take ownership of the pistols. You go to the county sheriff's office and plunk down $15 for three purchase permits, which for some dumb reason are required under state law even when you're getting a handgun as a gift. You wait five days, and go back to pick up the permits. 4. You take possession of the pistols. You give the three purchase permits to your dad. 5. Don't live in Durham, because they require registration. I don't know why, and if I asked, it'd probably be blamed on rich kids at Duke, so I don't ask.
The way it usually seems to go is something like this: 1. Your dad inherits three pistols. 2. You find them and accept them as a gift. 3. Nothing bad happens unless they turn out to be stolen, or you do something stupid and get caught.
And yes, if they turn out stolen, the police will try to reunite the pistols with their rightful owners. My dad had a few stolen out of my grandfather's house, and one of them turned up more than a year later being carried by some drug dealer five states away. Apparently hadn't been used in a crime, though, so it was returned.11/27/2006 5:27:26 PM |
butts Starting Lineup 51 Posts user info edit post |
^this is correct, do this
you cannot legally take ownership of a pistol without a permit in nc 11/27/2006 5:46:06 PM |
dreadnought All American 6473 Posts user info edit post |
ok thanks for the info guys i went by and filled out the application for a purchase permit earlier today...
i guess i'll just cross my fingers that the guns aren't stolen and/or anyone finds out lol 11/27/2006 5:49:51 PM |
kylekatern All American 3291 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Unless you choose to build it yourself, as with ruger target pistols and the like you can buy all the non gun parts, and hand fit and tap the tubular reciver, sjtu make sure to create a unique serial number as, while not required by law, msot folks freak out about no serial number as they assume that makes it illegal. AS long as it is not made priamrily to sell, aka personal use, its all legal. Thus why folks buy the build your own reciver kits to build ak based hand guns, as you have to make a reciver form scratch with no stock hinge point and no forgrip of any kind for it to be a legal pistol. They wont elt you convert form a rifle, but you can take a pice of sheet stock fromt he kit, a block of wood, a vice, and rivets and make your own one off reciver for an ak type. 11/27/2006 9:12:57 PM |
ewstephe All American 1382 Posts user info edit post |
^ find me a few grip frames for the mkIIs and I ll buy all of them . bitches are scarce like hens teeth and I want a paclite without gutting a whole pistol 11/28/2006 8:59:46 AM |
butts Starting Lineup 51 Posts user info edit post |
^^True, but I think that is because you don't actually take ownership of it. Most gun regulation stems from interstate commerce, so it's pretty hard to regulate something that is never sold. 11/28/2006 10:27:29 AM |
Ds97Z All American 1687 Posts user info edit post |
You do not have to register the pistols. Unless you are a felon of some sort, nothing will come out of it. I have 3 pistols I've inherited at one time or another, and it's no big deal. 11/30/2006 8:36:49 AM |
Ds97Z All American 1687 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, and BTW, if any firearm is made before 1898, there are no laws governingthe transfer of them, as they are not legally classified as firearms, but "antiques". 11/30/2006 8:40:14 AM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure glad we have laws regarding the handling of Weapons of Mass Destruction here in North Carolina.
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