As a school we must remember the man and pursue the cause but also as a human race we must also pursue the cure to the threat of life known as cancer. My father has overcome the disease and Im sure you know someone that has had it, has it or has beat it.

Don't give up...don't ever give up.

Syracuse vs. OK St. firs the UL vs. Arizona.


ESPY's speech at half time for those who have never heard it...seriously gets me every time I hear it.


Jimmy V will not be forgotten.

12/5/2006 7:09:53 PM

too bad "jimmy v" destroyed our athletic program

12/5/2006 7:20:59 PM

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"too bad "jimmy v" destroyed our athletic program"

It's obvious you don't understand.

12/5/2006 7:22:52 PM

STAY ON TARGET

12/5/2006 7:23:39 PM

what dont i understand

if you think im saying that i dont support what he does with all his fund raising shit you are wrong

12/5/2006 7:23:44 PM

Actually what he did really wasnt out of the ordinary.

in the 1970's is when we really screwed up more to tell the truth.

All of the allegations against Valvano in the book that brought about the whole fiasco 'personal fouls' were false.

The investigation found out that the only thing the kids did was sell their complimentary tickets and their shoes after they used them. Really not that big of a deal considering some of the stories of things that kids are doing these days.

If not for Dean Smith as an assistant at UNC covering his boss's ass UNC would have been in much the same trouble.

there was a quote by the CHIEF investigator that said "I consider myself a good judge of character and I have come to the belief that you are one of the best people I have ever met in intercollegiate athletics and one of the best people I have met, period. What all this leads up to is youre good for intercollegiate athletics, good for NC State and good for the NCAA. I hope you stay at State and continue to do as you have always done and not change anything about your methods or personality. If I had a son, I would feel comfortable with you as his coach."

so in reality Peter Golenbock ruined NC State.

12/5/2006 7:30:03 PM

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"too bad "jimmy v" destroyed our athletic program"

man gave us one of two National Championships...

for all I care, he could have burnt down Reynolds after that.

12/5/2006 7:30:27 PM

I want to see what the fuss is with Paul Harris. He is supposedly the 'savior' to Syracuse fans but I haven't seen him yet.. hopefully traffic is light so I can get home from work before it's over..

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"All of the allegations against Valvano in the book that brought about the whole fiasco 'personal fouls' were false."

Very true but Jimmy Valvano himself admitted that he could have and should have done a better job policing the program and judging character in his players. He was stretched too thin being coach AND AD, which was an adminstrative mistake more than anything else..

[Edited on December 5, 2006 at 7:33 PM. Reason : x]

12/5/2006 7:30:39 PM

true not to mention he was a commentator as well...he did indeed stretch himself too far and when the cats away the mice will play.

Point is, Jimmy V didnt destroy NC State.

12/5/2006 7:34:07 PM

This team taught me that elephants are going to be driving in the Indianapolis 500 someday….
- Jimmy V

12/5/2006 7:35:09 PM

TrjnMan007, you are a fucking idiot

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"too bad "jimmy v" destroyed our athletic program"

try to do a little research on "things" before you post diarrhea

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"i dont support what he does with all his fund raising shit you are wrong"

you know he has been dead for a while right and that his wife and brother head up the foundation

NCSU needs to name the court of the RBC stadium "Coach Vs Court" or something sim

12/5/2006 7:40:22 PM

oh is that why he wasnt at the golf tournament? i thought he just decided not to go :coach:

maybe you should realize that just winning championships does not make a program or a coach, in order to establish a solid foundation for a program you have to do it the right way, in the long run we were fucked

12/5/2006 7:47:19 PM

I Think, and I could be wrong here...Dicky V never mentions NC State because he has not done one of our games in at least 4 years

I dont remember him anytime since I have been here.

12/5/2006 7:48:48 PM

he did it the right way you dumb fuck

did you not read anything JT3 posted
he summed that shit up

i know you are pretty slow so we can just let it slide OK

12/5/2006 7:51:11 PM

rightttttt because he was consecutively in the top of the ACC and the tournament.

I dont know who you think you are talking about man, for real you look like an idiot right now because you are spitting off 'this is what i think is right' shit out of your mouth.

Look at the records, the recruiting, the stats, the situation. Do some reading, figure out why it happened and then get back to us...until then stop thinking you know everything about the situation.

we were Fucked due to Coach K's arrival, Dean Smith and an ACC that was stacked.

just stfu I dont even wanna continue arguing over STUPID comments

12/5/2006 7:51:57 PM

if he did it the right way why has there been nothing but a downward spiral for the last 15 years?

even worse he succeded in fucking away what everett case did for the school. he pretty much rode the waves from what was already around, was a good coach so he got alot of support, then when his shit got questioned it all fell apart

[Edited on December 5, 2006 at 7:54 PM. Reason : i never said he wasnt a good coach, but good at running a program, not so much]

12/5/2006 7:53:45 PM

obviously you forget the atrocious Les Robinson.

obviously you didnt realize how well Duke and UNC would do in the next few years.

Obviously you forget that the N&O which broke most of the false stories were UNC journalism grads that admitted they liked making State look bad, falsely presenting accounts or not.

Obviously you even forgot Norm Sloan between the Case-V years.

Obviously you did not realize that Dean Smith, Coach K, everyone on Tobacco Road supported and FEARED Jimmy V as a coach.

Obviously you forget his 209-114 record(not too bad aye?)

Obviously you forgot the restrictions imposed on us that limited us throughout the 90's when V had already resigned.

Obviously you forgot how LOW academic standards were until this investigation all around the ACC.

Obviously you dont know much about what you are talking about so stfu.

[Edited on December 5, 2006 at 8:01 PM. Reason : f]

12/5/2006 8:00:17 PM

see there you go bringing up his coaching ability again

im not arguing that point

12/5/2006 8:01:22 PM

then what the hell are you arguing? that his 'dirty work' as a coach destroyed NC State?

I already rebutted that with quotes from the CHIEF INVESTIGATORS!!!

All things that came about were never proven...he did NOTHING TO BRING DOWN THIS PROGRAM.


Jesus Christ this is like arguing with a deaf man. You dont hear anything Im saying do you?

12/5/2006 8:03:42 PM

no my computer doesnt read to me sry

12/5/2006 8:05:17 PM

glad you finally shut up and didnt post any more stuff to make yourself look any worse.

Really dude, go read some stuff about it then get back to us...way to bring down a man though I commend you on that, sike.

He was a good guy, College basketball is dirty as it is.

back tothe game and the mission.

12/5/2006 8:07:43 PM

I just would like to know there's a Jimmy V Classic and we're not in it.

That's all.

12/5/2006 8:08:21 PM

Trjn SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Why are you bringing this shit into this thread?? This thread is about the Jimmy V Classic, supporting cancer research, and the inspiration that is the man, Jim Valvano.

So please shut the fuck up and get the fuck out of this thread.

Putting aside his fallacies as an AD and coach at our school, Jim Valvano was a great man and an inspiration to many people. I still can't watch his ESPY/Reynold's speech without crying, and it takes a lot to make me cry. The man could speak.

12/5/2006 8:08:31 PM

i wasnt trying to take the thread into this, im bored and posted then people got all riled up

GO CANCERRESEARCH!

12/5/2006 8:12:42 PM

here comes the goosebumps

hahaha i love the green bay packers story

12/5/2006 8:13:57 PM

http://www.redandwhitefromstate.com/article.php?story=20060713065052753

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"October 26, 1989 Shawnee Mission, Kansas Dear Jim, Please excuse the handwriting but I want this to be personal and not something off a typewriter or a computer. If you have trouble reading this, I apologize, but it is the best I can do. I am writing because I have become very fond of you throughout the course of the investigation. I guess we are not good friends, but as friendly as we can become through meeting under these circumstances. When I was first assigned this case I had no idea what you were all about. I had some knowledge of you from your TV appearances and I suspected I might encounter some smart-@#%$ egomaniac who would try to @#%$ me. Those impressions vanished after I met you and spent some time around you just listening to your philosophy about basketball, academics, life and other things we touched on. I consider myself a fairly good judge of character after the experiences I have had here, and I have come to believe that you are one of the best people I have met in intercollegiate athletics and one of the best people I have met period. I do not know the pressures you operate under, I do not know how your family has been affected by these proceedings, I guess I can’t know how you feel about your status at N.C. State because I don’t walk in your shoes and finally, I know you are not stupid or crazy and will make decisions based on your good judgement. Anyway, what all this leads up to is what I told you before in your office: you’re good for intercollegiate athletics, good for N.C. State and good for the NCAA. I hope you stay at N.C. State and continue to do as you’ve always done and not change anything about your methods or your personality. If I had a son, I would feel comfortable with you as his coach and encourage him to learn from you. So, anyway, for what it’s worth, if you are thinking about leaving N.C. State, please make that decision based on sound reasons (I know you will) and not because of some outside influence or a whim. I've grown to like you and respect you very much. I cannot say that about many people I have encountered in this job. If you decide to leave N.C. State, I know it will be because it is the best decision for you and your family -but it will be a big loss for the university, the ACC, the NCAA and the City of Raleigh. If I can support or help in any way, I will. You have a lot of supporters and admirers nationwide. I hope you get some comfort from them. Please hang in there as best you can. Best personal regards, Dave Didion Investigator, NCAA"

12/5/2006 8:21:20 PM

speech on now

12/5/2006 9:27:27 PM

on now



[Edited on December 5, 2006 at 9:27 PM. Reason : damn]

12/5/2006 9:27:35 PM

this speech gives me chills. its unreal.

12/5/2006 9:28:38 PM

I was really depressed today, this has cheered me up

12/5/2006 9:35:09 PM

his words mean so much, its just incredible

12/5/2006 9:35:45 PM

I forgot about Roy Firestone... where he be now

12/5/2006 9:38:32 PM

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"I was really depressed today, this has cheered me up"

This shit always depresses me.

12/5/2006 9:39:33 PM

Have we ever played in this tournament?

12/5/2006 9:49:29 PM

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"I Think, and I could be wrong here...Dicky V never mentions NC State because he has not done one of our games in at least 4 years I dont remember him anytime since I have been here. "

i think that he did the NCST vs DUKE game 2 years ago...i know mike patrick was there for sure...

12/5/2006 9:56:01 PM

^I met/photo op'd with dicky v @ cameron when he did state/duke game back in feb '02


[Edited on December 5, 2006 at 10:19 PM. Reason : j]

12/5/2006 10:17:16 PM

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"Have we ever played in this tournament?"

Pretty sure we lost to Gonzaga three years ago in one of the ugliest games college basketball has ever seen.

12/5/2006 10:19:35 PM

December 17, 2002
Gonzaga 69
#25 NC State 60


never mind, here it is:


EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (AP) -- Gonzaga rebounded against North Carolina State (No. 25 ESPN/USA Today) in more ways than one in the Jimmy V Classic.



[Edited on December 5, 2006 at 10:26 PM. Reason : ]

12/5/2006 10:26:17 PM

^That's just the way it is

Some things will never change

12/5/2006 11:22:28 PM

i didn't get to watch it, but i think it was last year they said that one of his daughters was battling cancer -- did they give an update on her?

that really tore me up last year, especially when he mentions the part in his speech about how the v foundation and cancer research can't save him but might save his children...

i hope she's doing ok

12/6/2006 2:56:12 AM

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"i didn't get to watch it, but i think it was last year they said that one of his daughters was battling cancer -- did they give an update on her? that really tore me up last year, especially when he mentions the part in his speech about how the v foundation and cancer research can't save him but might save his children... i hope she's doing ok"

Yeah....they gave an update on her and she's doing better.

Made you think, "wow", in reference to that part in his speech about his children.

12/6/2006 7:12:46 AM

couldnt find the espy speech, but this one is pretty good too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQDem4-z3kg

12/6/2006 1:51:30 PM

I just saw Jimmy V on the Cosby show with Dicky V. I didn't know that

12/21/2006 2:45:49 AM