this IS rare. 1989, 425 miles

http://tinyurl.com/y35rg4

12/13/2006 11:58:31 PM

lol, wait how is it 'brand new' and with 459 miles...has it just been sitting in a dealership since 1989 and taken on a bunch of 'test drives' but never bought?

or did the dealer forget this was in his warehouse and just found it under a pile of dust?

[Edited on December 14, 2006 at 12:02 AM. Reason : fda]

12/14/2006 12:01:41 AM

car was never street legal in US. that is the most likely reason.

12/14/2006 12:12:48 AM

Who cares. That shit is old news like the Type R Integra. This is 2006, you know.

12/14/2006 1:01:10 AM

gf didnt give you tonight?

12/14/2006 1:49:33 AM

i remember when your mom only had 425 miles on her.



nahh man but thats awesome. that is one of my favorite cars EVER

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"car was never street legal in US. that is the most likely reason."

the US now has a law thanks to bill gates and his unlimited wealth that limited edition cars can be driven less then 2500 miles (i think thats the #) a year legally w/o government inspection if you pay $ texas.

12/14/2006 7:21:37 AM

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"with only delivery Mil."

12/14/2006 9:13:09 AM

hmm i've never seen pictures of a 959 before... the back end looks like a bit like a cross between an NSX and a 1st gen 3000GT

12/14/2006 9:27:35 AM

That car was way ahead of its time and can still beat the crap out of most "super" cars. Only limiting factor for that car is tire technology.

12/14/2006 1:02:35 PM

wonder if they ran it any to keep everything lubed

12/14/2006 1:08:57 PM

^^ yeah but it still doesn't have as much hp as alot of the new ones.

i want one of these though


[Edited on December 14, 2006 at 1:21 PM. Reason : .]

12/14/2006 1:17:31 PM

wow. you would think they could have tacked on another 0.004 miles and rolled that fucker forward a few feet to take some decent pictures of the thing.

12/14/2006 2:05:39 PM

<3 959's

on another note, i was in a '98 911 carrera S last night. last year of the air cooled ones.

sweet car, kinda squirlly though

12/14/2006 2:11:34 PM

wasn't this the first true sequentially turbocharged car?

12/14/2006 2:38:19 PM

I thought those cars were only made in 1988...

12/14/2006 3:13:41 PM

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"the back end looks like a bit like a cross between an NSX and a 1st gen 3000GT"

a little 2nd gen. mr2'ish also.

12/14/2006 4:20:32 PM

This looks like a scam. He says may be imported to US or some shit, but it says the location is malibu california. Also no vin # given. If its really one of 29, why not put it?

12/14/2006 5:37:04 PM

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"on another note, i was in a '98 911 carrera S last night. last year of the air cooled ones"

Can't beat the 993s. 993>>>>>996

12/14/2006 10:01:34 PM

and i was worried i was the only one who thought so.

12/14/2006 10:02:58 PM

^^^ just shows how influential this car was. So many of its features, exterior and mechanical, are found in all those early 90s jap sports cars.

12/14/2006 10:04:12 PM

how about no, dooshbag. the testarossa came out in late '84, featuring this fat ass

12/14/2006 10:51:06 PM

^saw a black in apex with plates "185+mph"

12/14/2006 11:47:22 PM

^^ dude I am talking about the tail lights. those tail lights look nothing like the 959, MR2, 3000GT, or NSX. they look closer to a first gen rx7



vs.



[Edited on December 15, 2006 at 1:41 AM. Reason : .]

12/15/2006 1:41:06 AM

how did the 959 which debuted in 86 influence the 1g rx7 which debuted in what 1979????

how is the 1g rx7 one of "those early 90s jap sports cars" ????

[Edited on December 15, 2006 at 1:52 AM. Reason : did wankel make a time machine too??]

12/15/2006 1:52:01 AM

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"wow. you would think they could have tacked on another 0.004 miles and rolled that fucker forward a few feet to take some decent pictures of the thing. "

what I was thinking....for $375,000 you better get some some CLEAR pictures




[Edited on December 15, 2006 at 2:08 AM. Reason : .]

12/15/2006 2:05:45 AM

lol, i was waiting for that... arghx has to sneak an rx7 in everywhere. no matter how twisted.

12/15/2006 2:11:53 AM

its obviously some kind of sickness that is hampering him mentally

12/15/2006 2:12:59 AM

omfg. that's retarded. Cars are meant to be driven. not kept in garages or in storage for 17 freakin years...

12/16/2006 11:31:54 PM

nga plz.

im down for what cars are meant to be done with..

but if i got a hold of a 959, i sure as hell wouldnt be driving it around a lot. i would take it to track days more than i would spend on the street with it.

12/17/2006 6:49:33 AM

can we talk about the 959?

7/25/2014 11:46:30 AM

Who cares. That shit is old news like the Type R Integra. This is 2006, you know.

7/25/2014 11:49:00 AM

^^what would you like to talk about? Such a technological tour de force, so many things to discuss

7/25/2014 3:36:15 PM

I dunno, figured people have stuff to say (besides/in addition to the obligatory wiki)

7/25/2014 5:20:50 PM

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"on another note, i was in a '98 911 carrera S last night. last year of the air cooled ones."

I'm fairly sure that the 993 ended in '95 or '96, and the 996 came out in '97.

7/25/2014 6:29:51 PM

The 996 came out in '98 as a '99 MY. The 993 was produced through '97, but I guess a few could have been sold as '98 MY?



[Edited on July 25, 2014 at 7:28 PM. Reason : .]

7/25/2014 7:27:15 PM

my bad, looks like you're right.

7/25/2014 7:29:16 PM

I'd trade a testicle for one... He'll I'd trade a testicle for a 993 turbo

[Edited on July 25, 2014 at 8:59 PM. Reason : .]

7/25/2014 8:59:36 PM

A testicle will get you a 993. You'll have to trade both for a 993T. A 959 is gonna cost you testicles + half your organs.

7/25/2014 9:40:42 PM

But! An '89 is 25 years old this year which means it can be imported and driven legally without shenanigans.

On that note why haven't I seen an R32 Skyline yet?

959 is still the ultimate Porsche IMO. It's no longer the fastest or the best handling but it's the point where Porsche built the Best Car in the World, bar none.

7/26/2014 12:03:18 AM

ooooh great topic! here's a picture I took of a 959 at the Ken Lingenfelter collection:



what I like about this car is that it was just so ahead of its time, with the sequential twin turbos (first on a production gasoline engine) and the computer controlled all wheel drive. It looks like a Porsche but it's still different enough to set it apart. It was really fast for an 80s car but probably closer to today's Mustang GT. Now let's talk about the sequential twin turbo system. It was implemented in a different way than all the other sequential systems used from that late 80s-mid 90s era and its different from the two-stage boosting used in diesels today.



If you look at the right and left sides of the engine, you can see this external-wastegate looking things. Porsche was using an external wastegate on the Porsche 944 at the time, so they used the same type of valve to regulate the turbochargers.



Here's how it worked at low engine speeds. There are two banks with a crossover pipe between them. Exhaust flows through the turbocharger on the left, exiting out the muffler at the bottom of the diagram. Compressed air flows through an intercooler into the throttlebody. The secondary turbo (on the right) has its exhaust flow plugged up by the external-wastegate style valve (right, #10). The compressor side of the secondary turbo looks has a valve controlling its flow (right, #8).




After transition into both turbos, the exhaust flows out of the secondary turbocharger on the right and an external wastegate (left, #8) opens to bleed off exhaust for boost control. Air flows through both turbochargers and both intercoolers in the throttlebody.

I'm not sure exactly how the transition crossover between the two turbos is handled. The valve on the exhaust side of the secondary turbo may be duty controlled. It doesn't look like there is a dedicated "prespool valve" like the Supra 2JZ and Rx-7 13B-REW have. On those engines a valve regulated exhaust flow between the primary and secondary turbos before the secondary turbo came fully online.

The basic control as a hardware system is similar to the Supra 2JZ engine but the individual components are different. The 2JZ used butterfly valves, not poppet vales. The Rx-7 used swing valves. These systems are on a flat 6, an I6, and a inline 2 rotor engine respectively. A lot of it had to do with packaging space. So the Flat 6 has a lot of axial space (towards the center of the car, Y axis parallel to the ground), and used poppet valves. The I6 had more vertical space, perpendicular to the ground on a Z axis. The Rx-7 didn't have fuck-all for space because it's such a small car with front-mid engine configuration. So it used these small swing valves which required complicated actuators to seal gases and still react quickly, using both vacuum and pressure to operate. The Porsche and the Supra used pressure only to operate their valves.


[Edited on July 26, 2014 at 4:11 PM. Reason : comparison to Rx-7 and Supra]

7/26/2014 4:02:14 PM

^ <3

7/26/2014 7:18:22 PM

Quote :

"Who cares. That shit is old news like the Type R Integra. This is 2006, you know."

I wonder what I was so uptight about on December 14, 2006.

7/26/2014 10:17:56 PM

The 959 was considerably faster than a Mustang GT

[Edited on July 26, 2014 at 11:24 PM. Reason : .]

7/26/2014 11:24:18 PM

What I meant was, a 959 from the 80s is probably as fast the current 2014 Mustang GT.

7/27/2014 8:22:30 AM

Wrong.

7/27/2014 1:46:34 PM

^^ no, a lot faster. the 959 is pretty awesome.

7/27/2014 4:49:10 PM

Quote :

"What I meant was, a 959 from the 80s is probably as fast the current 2014 Mustang GT."

But it's not. The 959 could hit 60 in the high 3s and quarter mile just under 12 seconds....on 1980's tire technology

7/29/2014 8:52:19 AM

Yeah it and the gt40 have always been my dream cars for completely different reasons.

One for no computers and the other for completely computeriZed.

7/29/2014 9:22:22 AM

the Vector W8 is still my dream car, it still has the best dashboard ever put into a car

7/29/2014 11:03:52 AM

Some of the kits are really hard to tell...

8/3/2014 12:12:12 AM