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NCstAteFer
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Okay, the clutch on my 92 Geo Storm gave out.

Where can I go to get it fixed cheap? Where can I find the clutch itself if that would be cheaper for me.

Can you recommend a cheap mechanic?

Heeeelp!

12/23/2006 4:11:10 PM

baonest
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cheapest would be a used clutch.

clutchcityonline has good ones last time i checked.

of course i havnt bought a clutch in looooooong time.

i just use used ones.

12/23/2006 4:14:11 PM

NCstAteFer
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Alright, I'll check it out.

Thanks, amigo.

Does anyone know of mechanics?

12/23/2006 4:29:51 PM

smoothcrim
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I know a guy that'll do it including the part for ~$450, assuming he can get a geo clutch

12/23/2006 4:35:44 PM

fleetwud
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might need to settle for an Isuzu Impulse clutch instead

12/23/2006 5:14:09 PM

toyotafj40s
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^i see what u did there. harrr

12/23/2006 5:46:03 PM

NCstAteFer
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Does anyone know how to put in the clutch?

I will get the clutch kit and all.


Anyone out there?

12/27/2006 1:33:44 PM

toyotafj40s
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fwd drive clutch replacement is teh suxorz

12/27/2006 1:37:01 PM

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^ second that without the lift, if i had time and it was for decent money i would, but i dont and it probably isnt

12/27/2006 8:30:55 PM

NCstAteFer
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^that's nice and all, but not helping me.

Anyone can do it for me?

12/27/2006 8:48:38 PM

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you're not gonna find anyone on here to do something for nothing, everyone has a lot more things more worth their time right now may be worth it to pm pwnt, but he might actually have work now too, i don't do much automotive side work anymore and will be cutting out the contracting soon, zxappeal moved to bath, Jeepman needs to help me finish building his damn garage, BigBlueRam is doing good just to walk right now, and optmusprimer a rover to keep running, Igor needs to patch his bike together, ands thats pretty much everyone i would trust around here to do anything like that

12/27/2006 8:57:44 PM

tkeaton
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clutch store

12/27/2006 9:50:49 PM

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Louis Nutz could do it for ya

Norrin Radd


bwahahahahahahaha

12/27/2006 10:03:05 PM

beethead
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buy a clutch kit and do it yourself

12/27/2006 10:57:09 PM

Igor
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^^he probably could actually

12/27/2006 11:17:59 PM

NCstAteFer
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^^was going to do that but zxappeal told me it wouldn't be a good idea since I haven't done it before.

12/28/2006 10:07:04 AM

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not too hard, that tranny weighs what? 35-40lbs tops? one person could yank it out easy

12/28/2006 9:15:42 PM

arghx
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Since I'm not clear on how much (or how little) wrenching experience he has...

Everybody's gotta start somewhere. He could change the clutch himself, but it's going to take at the very least two or three times longer than someone with experience doing it. It gets even worse when you combine a lack of experience and a lack of a comprehensive set of tools. Every bolt can be a struggle, even on a Geo. Lining up a transmission and engine isn't the easiest thing for a beginner either.

I've been through all this recently so I know. I'd usually get a mechanic like zxappeal to do this kind of heavy duty type of shit for me. When the tranny blew on my car (88 Rx-7, rear wheel drive and certainly different and likely more difficult than a Geo) I did it with the help of a friend, and it was time consuming and frustrating at times.

The most time-consuming thing was not having the right tools and yet not realizing that I didn't have the right tools. Because I had never bought a huge comprehensive set of the stuff, I'd struggle with something for a long time, then say fuck it and go to the store to buy what I really needed, then make a little more progress, then get held up, etc. Ideally you should have sockets in 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2", both shallow and deep, and some good breaker bars, plus sets of extensions (3", 6", 12") for each size drive. You will need a socket for the CV axle... correct me if I'm wrong, but that's usually 32 mm. Then you need to get a set of wrenches. The cheapo walmart set will get the job done in many cases, but I ended up running out to get longer wrenches (often at like autozone) in some cases because you get more leverage.

For lowering the transmission, the biggest thing to worry about is safety if you've never done it before. You can get a transmission adapter thingie for a regular floor jack, or put some wood blocks on one. It's often easier if you tilt the motor a bit... that helped on my 7 and it helped on my friend's Eclipse when I helped him change his clutch.

I'd say go for it, but only if you have a knowledgeable friend who can help you out, and are willing to set aside a minimum of a full weekend to do it. And don't be surprised if you make multiple runs to the store to get more tools. Depending on your experience, you may be pulling off exhaust components for the first time, pulling off CV axles for the first time, etc. Putting it back together can be a bitch if you weren't organized when you pulled it apart.

12/28/2006 10:28:39 PM

optmusprimer
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"Louis Nutz could do it for ya

Norrin Radd


bwahahahahahahaha"



LMMFAO

12/28/2006 10:33:36 PM

zxappeal
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^^Well said, Ray.

I honestly cannot recommend doing this if you've never at least helped somebody do a tranny/clutch, even if 69 says it's not that heavy and easy to do. He's a little more gung ho than your average joe. He also has hella more experience.

Some trannies are easier to benchpress in than others, and while the gearbox is probably no heavier than 75 lbs (and I would bet it's most likely at least 60), it's really awkward to bench it in. Much better to have a jack and finesse it. I benched in my first FWD tranny back in '93, and that was in a Sentra. No picnic either. The last FWD tranny I benched in was in my wife's '95 Honda Civic EX, which has the beefy gearbox (quite a bit heavier than the DX gearbox). And that was a goddamn CHORE. Most of you know I ain't no scrawny motherfucker either.

The last tranny I benched was a damn AX5 in a Jeep (transfer case separately). After that, I bought a saddle for my floor jack. My rotator cuff is still fucked and that was more than a year ago.

[Edited on December 28, 2006 at 10:37 PM. Reason : yeah]

12/28/2006 10:36:50 PM

optmusprimer
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last one I helped on was a celica, before that a CRX (twice) and I found them both pretty easy. *shrug*

it absolutely kills my fucking lower back after though

12/28/2006 10:40:31 PM

zxappeal
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Didn't you PM me bitching about how you couldn't get the tranny to slide in that last little bit in the CRX? As in, input shaft alignment problems?

12/28/2006 10:43:43 PM

BigBlueRam
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"BigBlueRam is doing good just to walk right now"

nigga i dropped the trans in my vette just this week it took me about 2 days though, lol.

12/28/2006 10:54:27 PM

Jeepman
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DANGER: Gimp Wrenchin'

12/28/2006 11:04:42 PM

optmusprimer
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"Didn't you PM me bitching about how you couldn't get the tranny to slide in that last little bit in the CRX? As in, input shaft alignment problems?"


I was hoping you would remember that shit! Yeah i fucked and fucked with the damn thing and then left it for a lunch break, came back and had it in there like swimwear in 45 seconds or less. Thats how it goes when youre learning I suppose...

12/28/2006 11:06:54 PM

zxappeal
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Yep. First time I did my Teg, I ruined a CV shaft. That was back in '96.

12/28/2006 11:07:50 PM

toyotafj40s
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hey just get a new car.

[Edited on December 28, 2006 at 11:11 PM. Reason : it's over!]

12/28/2006 11:11:38 PM

optmusprimer
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yeah i had a CV nut that wouldnt come off that time, I just pulled the whole spindle

12/28/2006 11:12:10 PM

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"nigga i dropped the trans in my vette just this week"


i knew a guy paralyzed from the waist down that worked under his truck all the time by using a creeper and a small top tool chest on wheels, built seats to sit on the fenders

12/28/2006 11:12:34 PM

zxappeal
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I still have my Teg. I can NEVER get rid of it! It's in pretty sorry shape, though. The mold has overtaken the interior.

12/28/2006 11:13:01 PM

BigBlueRam
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"DANGER: Gimp Wrenchin' "

lol. i made myself hurt so much/sore i'm waiting till next week to put it back, haha.

12/28/2006 11:13:48 PM

NCstAteFer
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Thank you, gentlemen, for all the feedback.

The question is, can I use a regular car jack to lift the car and do all the work underneath?

Would that be enough space?

[Edited on December 28, 2006 at 11:24 PM. Reason : .]

12/28/2006 11:24:09 PM

zxappeal
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HOLY SHIT. Prime indication you should just stop now.

Jackstands. What about jackstands? NEVER RELY ON JUST A JACK.

And possibly enough room, though claustrophobic at times.

12/28/2006 11:25:37 PM

NCstAteFer
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lol...

I have jackstands, man.

I was just wondering if it was enough space.

Alright, I'll get started on it tomorrow.

12/28/2006 11:29:04 PM

arghx
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Organization is critical.

Put all the bolts and nuts in separate bags that are labeled. If you can, put the bolts and nuts back into the part that you took off. I'm not sure how the tranny bolts are on this car, but they may be unequal size/length. Keep track of each one and where it goes. Take pictures of some of the parts if you can. Take notes on the electrical connectors. Disconnect the battery before you start messing with the starter. Make sure you know where everything goes.

What you should definately have: all those tools I mentioned (including axle nut socket), clutch disc, new throwout bearing, clutch alignment tool. I would go to Advance Auto Parts and get their little assortment of nuts and bolts for Japanese vehicles. It's about $8 and has the standard sized bolts. You may need to replace some of your old ones.

If you're smart you might want to change the rear main seal while the car is apart, especially because it's likely 15 years old. You should also get the flywheel resurfaced after you pull it off. Otherwise you are risking the clutch slipping again. And be prepared for hell when it comes time to pull that flywheel nut...



[Edited on December 29, 2006 at 12:29 AM. Reason : flywheel resurface]

12/29/2006 12:25:13 AM

BigBlueRam
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arghx giving out advice to someone that appears to barely knows what a clutch is... this is going to be awesome.



[Edited on December 29, 2006 at 12:59 AM. Reason : .]

12/29/2006 12:58:21 AM

zxappeal
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^^Nearly every other engine on the road uses between 6 and 8 flywheel bolts instead of a single flywheel gland nut like the Mazda Wankels do. Oh...the Volkswagen TypeI/II/III engine uses a single nut as well.

12/29/2006 4:09:45 PM

optmusprimer
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i got your gland nuts right here

12/29/2006 4:30:22 PM

beethead
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"I would go to Advance Auto Parts and get their little assortment of nuts and bolts for Japanese vehicles. It's about $8 and has the standard sized bolts."


i thought the japs used metric.

12/29/2006 5:17:02 PM

optmusprimer
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hAHa

12/29/2006 5:28:47 PM

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pm me your im name and i will send you screenshots of all the procedures and specifications in alldata for it

12/29/2006 5:46:18 PM

underPSI
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"arghx giving out advice to someone that appears to barely knows what a clutch is... this is going to be awesome.


"


hahaha

12/30/2006 10:09:37 AM

toyotafj40s
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troo big blue did my clutch in the celica. still holding strong. my dad drives the shitter now

12/30/2006 11:11:52 AM

NCstAteFer
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Got it fixed for $100

A couple guys work out of their garage and they were pretty good and professional.

I promised to try and get them more business so if you guys need anything done, I know they'll do a good job for cheap.

[Edited on January 19, 2007 at 11:54 PM. Reason : .]

1/19/2007 11:53:38 PM

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"My rotator cuff is still fucked and that was more than a year ago."


my shoulder is fucked today from balancing an NV3500 and transfer case on the torsion bar crossmember and benching the bellhousing into place, slid right in there though, got the 4.3 out thursday night, dropped the 5.7 in last night, got the tranny bolted up, driveshafts, exhaust, shifters, accessories on the engine

gonna drop in the radiator and hoses, prime the engine, drop in the dizzy, plugs and wires, fuel lines and starter this morning, and tackle the new wiring harness his afternoon and hopefully get it on the road this evening, assuming i don't run into too many problems swapping a '96 tahoe 5.7 auto harness into a '98 4.3 k1500 manual

1/20/2007 9:11:55 AM

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