NCstAteFer All American 7194 Posts user info edit post |
Okay, the clutch on my 92 Geo Storm gave out.
Where can I go to get it fixed cheap? Where can I find the clutch itself if that would be cheaper for me.
Can you recommend a cheap mechanic?
Heeeelp! 12/23/2006 4:11:10 PM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
cheapest would be a used clutch.
clutchcityonline has good ones last time i checked.
of course i havnt bought a clutch in looooooong time.
i just use used ones. 12/23/2006 4:14:11 PM |
NCstAteFer All American 7194 Posts user info edit post |
Alright, I'll check it out.
Thanks, amigo.
Does anyone know of mechanics? 12/23/2006 4:29:51 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18966 Posts user info edit post |
I know a guy that'll do it including the part for ~$450, assuming he can get a geo clutch 12/23/2006 4:35:44 PM |
fleetwud AmbitiousButRubbish 49741 Posts user info edit post |
might need to settle for an Isuzu Impulse clutch instead 12/23/2006 5:14:09 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
^i see what u did there. harrr 12/23/2006 5:46:03 PM |
NCstAteFer All American 7194 Posts user info edit post |
Does anyone know how to put in the clutch?
I will get the clutch kit and all.
Anyone out there? 12/27/2006 1:33:44 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
fwd drive clutch replacement is teh suxorz 12/27/2006 1:37:01 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
^ second that without the lift, if i had time and it was for decent money i would, but i dont and it probably isnt 12/27/2006 8:30:55 PM |
NCstAteFer All American 7194 Posts user info edit post |
^that's nice and all, but not helping me.
Anyone can do it for me? 12/27/2006 8:48:38 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
you're not gonna find anyone on here to do something for nothing, everyone has a lot more things more worth their time right now may be worth it to pm pwnt, but he might actually have work now too, i don't do much automotive side work anymore and will be cutting out the contracting soon, zxappeal moved to bath, Jeepman needs to help me finish building his damn garage, BigBlueRam is doing good just to walk right now, and optmusprimer a rover to keep running, Igor needs to patch his bike together, ands thats pretty much everyone i would trust around here to do anything like that 12/27/2006 8:57:44 PM |
tkeaton All American 5775 Posts user info edit post |
clutch store 12/27/2006 9:50:49 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
Louis Nutz could do it for ya
Norrin Radd
bwahahahahahahaha 12/27/2006 10:03:05 PM |
beethead All American 6513 Posts user info edit post |
buy a clutch kit and do it yourself 12/27/2006 10:57:09 PM |
Igor All American 6672 Posts user info edit post |
^^he probably could actually 12/27/2006 11:17:59 PM |
NCstAteFer All American 7194 Posts user info edit post |
^^was going to do that but zxappeal told me it wouldn't be a good idea since I haven't done it before. 12/28/2006 10:07:04 AM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
not too hard, that tranny weighs what? 35-40lbs tops? one person could yank it out easy 12/28/2006 9:15:42 PM |
arghx Deucefest '04 7584 Posts user info edit post |
Since I'm not clear on how much (or how little) wrenching experience he has...
Everybody's gotta start somewhere. He could change the clutch himself, but it's going to take at the very least two or three times longer than someone with experience doing it. It gets even worse when you combine a lack of experience and a lack of a comprehensive set of tools. Every bolt can be a struggle, even on a Geo. Lining up a transmission and engine isn't the easiest thing for a beginner either.
I've been through all this recently so I know. I'd usually get a mechanic like zxappeal to do this kind of heavy duty type of shit for me. When the tranny blew on my car (88 Rx-7, rear wheel drive and certainly different and likely more difficult than a Geo) I did it with the help of a friend, and it was time consuming and frustrating at times.
The most time-consuming thing was not having the right tools and yet not realizing that I didn't have the right tools. Because I had never bought a huge comprehensive set of the stuff, I'd struggle with something for a long time, then say fuck it and go to the store to buy what I really needed, then make a little more progress, then get held up, etc. Ideally you should have sockets in 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2", both shallow and deep, and some good breaker bars, plus sets of extensions (3", 6", 12") for each size drive. You will need a socket for the CV axle... correct me if I'm wrong, but that's usually 32 mm. Then you need to get a set of wrenches. The cheapo walmart set will get the job done in many cases, but I ended up running out to get longer wrenches (often at like autozone) in some cases because you get more leverage.
For lowering the transmission, the biggest thing to worry about is safety if you've never done it before. You can get a transmission adapter thingie for a regular floor jack, or put some wood blocks on one. It's often easier if you tilt the motor a bit... that helped on my 7 and it helped on my friend's Eclipse when I helped him change his clutch.
I'd say go for it, but only if you have a knowledgeable friend who can help you out, and are willing to set aside a minimum of a full weekend to do it. And don't be surprised if you make multiple runs to the store to get more tools. Depending on your experience, you may be pulling off exhaust components for the first time, pulling off CV axles for the first time, etc. Putting it back together can be a bitch if you weren't organized when you pulled it apart. 12/28/2006 10:28:39 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Louis Nutz could do it for ya
Norrin Radd
bwahahahahahahaha" |
LMMFAO12/28/2006 10:33:36 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
^^Well said, Ray.
I honestly cannot recommend doing this if you've never at least helped somebody do a tranny/clutch, even if 69 says it's not that heavy and easy to do. He's a little more gung ho than your average joe. He also has hella more experience.
Some trannies are easier to benchpress in than others, and while the gearbox is probably no heavier than 75 lbs (and I would bet it's most likely at least 60), it's really awkward to bench it in. Much better to have a jack and finesse it. I benched in my first FWD tranny back in '93, and that was in a Sentra. No picnic either. The last FWD tranny I benched in was in my wife's '95 Honda Civic EX, which has the beefy gearbox (quite a bit heavier than the DX gearbox). And that was a goddamn CHORE. Most of you know I ain't no scrawny motherfucker either.
The last tranny I benched was a damn AX5 in a Jeep (transfer case separately). After that, I bought a saddle for my floor jack. My rotator cuff is still fucked and that was more than a year ago.
[Edited on December 28, 2006 at 10:37 PM. Reason : yeah] 12/28/2006 10:36:50 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
last one I helped on was a celica, before that a CRX (twice) and I found them both pretty easy. *shrug*
it absolutely kills my fucking lower back after though 12/28/2006 10:40:31 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
Didn't you PM me bitching about how you couldn't get the tranny to slide in that last little bit in the CRX? As in, input shaft alignment problems? 12/28/2006 10:43:43 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "BigBlueRam is doing good just to walk right now" |
nigga i dropped the trans in my vette just this week it took me about 2 days though, lol.12/28/2006 10:54:27 PM |
Jeepman All American 5882 Posts user info edit post |
DANGER: Gimp Wrenchin' 12/28/2006 11:04:42 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Didn't you PM me bitching about how you couldn't get the tranny to slide in that last little bit in the CRX? As in, input shaft alignment problems?" |
I was hoping you would remember that shit! Yeah i fucked and fucked with the damn thing and then left it for a lunch break, came back and had it in there like swimwear in 45 seconds or less. Thats how it goes when youre learning I suppose...12/28/2006 11:06:54 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
Yep. First time I did my Teg, I ruined a CV shaft. That was back in '96. 12/28/2006 11:07:50 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
hey just get a new car.
[Edited on December 28, 2006 at 11:11 PM. Reason : it's over!] 12/28/2006 11:11:38 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i had a CV nut that wouldnt come off that time, I just pulled the whole spindle 12/28/2006 11:12:10 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "nigga i dropped the trans in my vette just this week" |
i knew a guy paralyzed from the waist down that worked under his truck all the time by using a creeper and a small top tool chest on wheels, built seats to sit on the fenders 12/28/2006 11:12:34 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
I still have my Teg. I can NEVER get rid of it! It's in pretty sorry shape, though. The mold has overtaken the interior. 12/28/2006 11:13:01 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "DANGER: Gimp Wrenchin' " |
lol. i made myself hurt so much/sore i'm waiting till next week to put it back, haha. 12/28/2006 11:13:48 PM |
NCstAteFer All American 7194 Posts user info edit post |
Thank you, gentlemen, for all the feedback.
The question is, can I use a regular car jack to lift the car and do all the work underneath?
Would that be enough space?
[Edited on December 28, 2006 at 11:24 PM. Reason : .] 12/28/2006 11:24:09 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
HOLY SHIT. Prime indication you should just stop now.
Jackstands. What about jackstands? NEVER RELY ON JUST A JACK.
And possibly enough room, though claustrophobic at times. 12/28/2006 11:25:37 PM |
NCstAteFer All American 7194 Posts user info edit post |
lol...
I have jackstands, man.
I was just wondering if it was enough space.
Alright, I'll get started on it tomorrow. 12/28/2006 11:29:04 PM |
arghx Deucefest '04 7584 Posts user info edit post |
Organization is critical.
Put all the bolts and nuts in separate bags that are labeled. If you can, put the bolts and nuts back into the part that you took off. I'm not sure how the tranny bolts are on this car, but they may be unequal size/length. Keep track of each one and where it goes. Take pictures of some of the parts if you can. Take notes on the electrical connectors. Disconnect the battery before you start messing with the starter. Make sure you know where everything goes.
What you should definately have: all those tools I mentioned (including axle nut socket), clutch disc, new throwout bearing, clutch alignment tool. I would go to Advance Auto Parts and get their little assortment of nuts and bolts for Japanese vehicles. It's about $8 and has the standard sized bolts. You may need to replace some of your old ones.
If you're smart you might want to change the rear main seal while the car is apart, especially because it's likely 15 years old. You should also get the flywheel resurfaced after you pull it off. Otherwise you are risking the clutch slipping again. And be prepared for hell when it comes time to pull that flywheel nut...
[Edited on December 29, 2006 at 12:29 AM. Reason : flywheel resurface] 12/29/2006 12:25:13 AM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
arghx giving out advice to someone that appears to barely knows what a clutch is... this is going to be awesome.
[Edited on December 29, 2006 at 12:59 AM. Reason : .] 12/29/2006 12:58:21 AM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
^^Nearly every other engine on the road uses between 6 and 8 flywheel bolts instead of a single flywheel gland nut like the Mazda Wankels do. Oh...the Volkswagen TypeI/II/III engine uses a single nut as well. 12/29/2006 4:09:45 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
i got your gland nuts right here 12/29/2006 4:30:22 PM |
beethead All American 6513 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I would go to Advance Auto Parts and get their little assortment of nuts and bolts for Japanese vehicles. It's about $8 and has the standard sized bolts." |
i thought the japs used metric.12/29/2006 5:17:02 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
hAHa 12/29/2006 5:28:47 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
pm me your im name and i will send you screenshots of all the procedures and specifications in alldata for it 12/29/2006 5:46:18 PM |
underPSI tillerman 14085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "arghx giving out advice to someone that appears to barely knows what a clutch is... this is going to be awesome.
" |
hahaha12/30/2006 10:09:37 AM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
troo big blue did my clutch in the celica. still holding strong. my dad drives the shitter now 12/30/2006 11:11:52 AM |
NCstAteFer All American 7194 Posts user info edit post |
Got it fixed for $100
A couple guys work out of their garage and they were pretty good and professional.
I promised to try and get them more business so if you guys need anything done, I know they'll do a good job for cheap.
[Edited on January 19, 2007 at 11:54 PM. Reason : .] 1/19/2007 11:53:38 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My rotator cuff is still fucked and that was more than a year ago." |
my shoulder is fucked today from balancing an NV3500 and transfer case on the torsion bar crossmember and benching the bellhousing into place, slid right in there though, got the 4.3 out thursday night, dropped the 5.7 in last night, got the tranny bolted up, driveshafts, exhaust, shifters, accessories on the engine
gonna drop in the radiator and hoses, prime the engine, drop in the dizzy, plugs and wires, fuel lines and starter this morning, and tackle the new wiring harness his afternoon and hopefully get it on the road this evening, assuming i don't run into too many problems swapping a '96 tahoe 5.7 auto harness into a '98 4.3 k1500 manual1/20/2007 9:11:55 AM |