Just watched Romero again and it made me think of this topic. Man, if I lived in one of those countries I would hate the USA with a passion. Heres the timeline of terrorist activity JUST BY THE CIA and leaves out the biggest of them all....ISRAEL

enjoy!

1947

Greece — President Truman requests military aid to Greece to support right-wing forces fighting communist rebels. For the rest of the Cold War, Washington and the CIA will back notorious Greek leaders with deplorable human rights records.

CIA created — President Truman signs the National Security Act of 1947, creating the Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Council. The CIA is accountable to the president through the NSC — there is no democratic or congressional oversight. Its charter allows the CIA to "perform such other functions and duties… as the National Security Council may from time to time direct." This loophole opens the door to covert action and dirty tricks.

1948

Covert-action wing created — The CIA recreates a covert action wing, innocuously called the Office of Policy Coordination, led by Wall Street lawyer Frank Wisner. According to its secret charter, its responsibilities include "propaganda, economic warfare, preventive direct action, including sabotage, antisabotage, demolition and evacuation procedures; subversion against hostile states, including assistance to underground resistance groups, and support of indigenous anti-communist elements in threatened countries of the free world."

Italy — The CIA corrupts democratic elections in Italy, where Italian communists threaten to win the elections. The CIA buys votes, broadcasts propaganda, threatens and beats up opposition leaders, and infiltrates and disrupts their organizations. It works -- the communists are defeated.

1949

Radio Free Europe — The CIA creates its first major propaganda outlet, Radio Free Europe. Over the next several decades, its broadcasts are so blatantly false that for a time it is considered illegal to publish transcripts of them in the U.S.

Late 40s

Operation MOCKINGBIRD — The CIA begins recruiting American news organizations and journalists to become spies and disseminators of propaganda. The effort is headed by Frank Wisner, Allan Dulles, Richard Helms and Philip Graham. Graham is publisher of The Washington Post, which becomes a major CIA player. Eventually, the CIA’s media assets will include ABC, NBC, CBS, Time, Newsweek, Associated Press, United Press International, Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps-Howard, Copley News Service and more. By the CIA’s own admission, at least 25 organizations and 400 journalists will become CIA assets.

1953

Iran – CIA overthrows the democratically elected Mohammed Mossadegh in a military coup, after he threatened to nationalize British oil. The CIA replaces him with a dictator, the Shah of Iran, whose secret police, SAVAK, is as brutal as the Gestapo.

Operation MK-ULTRA — Inspired by North Korea’s brainwashing program, the CIA begins experiments on mind control. The most notorious part of this project involves giving LSD and other drugs to American subjects without their knowledge or against their will, causing several to commit suicide. However, the operation involves far more than this. Funded in part by the Rockefeller and Ford foundations, research includes propaganda, brainwashing, public relations, advertising, hypnosis, and other forms of suggestion.

1954

Guatemala — CIA overthrows the democratically elected Jacob Arbenz in a military coup. Arbenz has threatened to nationalize the Rockefeller-owned United Fruit Company, in which CIA Director Allen Dulles also owns stock. Arbenz is replaced with a series of right-wing dictators whose bloodthirsty policies will kill over 100,000 Guatemalans in the next 40 years.

1954-1958

North Vietnam — CIA officer Edward Lansdale spends four years trying to overthrow the communist government of North Vietnam, using all the usual dirty tricks. The CIA also attempts to legitimize a tyrannical puppet regime in South Vietnam, headed by Ngo Dinh Diem. These efforts fail to win the hearts and minds of the South Vietnamese because the Diem government is opposed to true democracy, land reform and poverty reduction measures. The CIA’s continuing failure results in escalating American intervention, culminating in the Vietnam War.

1956

Hungary — Radio Free Europe incites Hungary to revolt by broadcasting Khruschev’s Secret Speech, in which he denounced Stalin. It also hints that American aid will help the Hungarians fight. This aid fails to materialize as Hungarians launch a doomed armed revolt, which only invites a major Soviet invasion. The conflict kills 7,000 Soviets and 30,000 Hungarians.

1957-1973

Laos — The CIA carries out approximately one coup per year trying to nullify Laos’ democratic elections. The problem is the Pathet Lao, a leftist group with enough popular support to be a member of any coalition government. In the late 50s, the CIA even creates an "Armee Clandestine" of Asian mercenaries to attack the Pathet Lao. After the CIA’s army suffers numerous defeats, the U.S. starts bombing, dropping more bombs on Laos than all the U.S. bombs dropped in World War II. A quarter of all Laotians will eventually become refugees, many living in caves.

1959

Haiti — The U.S. military helps "Papa Doc" Duvalier become dictator of Haiti. He creates his own private police force, the "Tonton Macoutes," who terrorize the population with machetes. They will kill over 100,000 during the Duvalier family reign. The U.S. does not protest their dismal human rights record.

1961

The Bay of Pigs — The CIA sends 1,500 Cuban exiles to invade Castro’s Cuba. But "Operation Mongoose" fails, due to poor planning, security and backing. The planners had imagined that the invasion will spark a popular uprising against Castro -– which never happens. A promised American air strike also never occurs. This is the CIA’s first public setback, causing President Kennedy to fire CIA Director Allen Dulles.

Dominican Republic — The CIA assassinates Rafael Trujillo, a murderous dictator Washington has supported since 1930. Trujillo’s business interests have grown so large (about 60 percent of the economy) that they have begun competing with American business interests.

Ecuador — The CIA-backed military forces the democratically elected President Jose Velasco to resign. Vice President Carlos Arosemana replaces him; the CIA fills the now vacant vice presidency with its own man.

Congo (Zaire) — The CIA assassinates the democratically elected Patrice Lumumba. However, public support for Lumumba’s politics runs so high that the CIA cannot clearly install his opponents in power. Four years of political turmoil follow.

1963

Dominican Republic — The CIA overthrows the democratically elected Juan Bosch in a military coup. The CIA installs a repressive, right-wing junta.

Ecuador — A CIA-backed military coup overthrows President Arosemana, whose independent (not socialist) policies have become unacceptable to Washington. A military junta assumes command, cancels the 1964 elections, and begins abusing human rights.

1964

Brazil — A CIA-backed military coup overthrows the democratically elected government of Joao Goulart. The junta that replaces it will, in the next two decades, become one of the most bloodthirsty in history. General Castelo Branco will create Latin America’s first death squads, or bands of secret police who hunt down "communists" for torture, interrogation and murder. Often these "communists" are no more than Branco’s political opponents. Later it is revealed that the CIA trains the death squads.

1965

Indonesia — The CIA overthrows the democratically elected Sukarno with a military coup. The CIA has been trying to eliminate Sukarno since 1957, using everything from attempted assassination to sexual intrigue, for nothing more than his declaring neutrality in the Cold War. His successor, General Suharto, will massacre between 500,000 to 1 million civilians accused of being "communist." The CIA supplies the names of countless suspects.

Dominican Republic — A popular rebellion breaks out, promising to reinstall Juan Bosch as the country’s elected leader. The revolution is crushed when U.S. Marines land to uphold the military regime by force. The CIA directs everything behind the scenes.

Greece — With the CIA’s backing, the king removes George Papandreous as prime minister. Papandreous has failed to vigorously support U.S. interests in Greece.

Congo (Zaire) — A CIA-backed military coup installs Mobutu Sese Seko as dictator. The hated and repressive Mobutu exploits his desperately poor country for billions.

1966

The Ramparts Affair — The radical magazine Ramparts begins a series of unprecedented anti-CIA articles. Among their scoops: the CIA has paid the University of Michigan $25 million dollars to hire "professors" to train South Vietnamese students in covert police methods. MIT and other universities have received similar payments. Ramparts also reveals that the National Students’ Association is a CIA front. Students are sometimes recruited through blackmail and bribery, including draft deferments.

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[Edited on December 30, 2006 at 2:53 AM. Reason : pathetic]

12/30/2006 2:48:09 AM

lol its so long it couldn't fit into one post!

1967

Greece — A CIA-backed military coup overthrows the government two days before the elections. The favorite to win was George Papandreous, the liberal candidate. During the next six years, the "reign of the colonels" — backed by the CIA — will usher in the widespread use of torture and murder against political opponents. When a Greek ambassador objects to President Johnson about U.S. plans for Cypress, Johnson tells him: "Fuck your parliament and your constitution."

Operation PHEONIX — The CIA helps South Vietnamese agents identify and then murder alleged Viet Cong leaders operating in South Vietnamese villages. According to a 1971 congressional report, this operation killed about 20,000 "Viet Cong."

1968

Operation CHAOS — The CIA has been illegally spying on American citizens since 1959, but with Operation CHAOS, President Johnson dramatically boosts the effort. CIA agents go undercover as student radicals to spy on and disrupt campus organizations protesting the Vietnam War. They are searching for Russian instigators, which they never find. CHAOS will eventually spy on 7,000 individuals and 1,000 organizations.

Bolivia — A CIA-organized military operation captures legendary guerilla Che Guevara. The CIA wants to keep him alive for interrogation, but the Bolivian government executes him to prevent worldwide calls for clemency.

1969

Uruguay — The notorious CIA torturer Dan Mitrione arrives in Uruguay, a country torn with political strife. Whereas right-wing forces previously used torture only as a last resort, Mitrione convinces them to use it as a routine, widespread practice. "The precise pain, in the precise place, in the precise amount, for the desired effect," is his motto. The torture techniques he teaches to the death squads rival the Nazis’. He eventually becomes so feared that revolutionaries will kidnap and murder him a year later.

1970

Cambodia — The CIA overthrows Prince Sahounek, who is highly popular among Cambodians for keeping them out of the Vietnam War. He is replaced by CIA puppet Lon Nol, who immediately throws Cambodian troops into battle. This unpopular move strengthens once minor opposition parties like the Khmer Rouge, which achieves power in 1975 and massacres millions of its own people.

1971

Bolivia — After half a decade of CIA-inspired political turmoil, a CIA-backed military coup overthrows the leftist President Juan Torres. In the next two years, dictator Hugo Banzer will have over 2,000 political opponents arrested without trial, then tortured, raped and executed.

Haiti — "Papa Doc" Duvalier dies, leaving his 19-year old son "Baby Doc" Duvalier the dictator of Haiti. His son continues his bloody reign with full knowledge of the CIA.

1972

The Case-Zablocki Act — Congress passes an act requiring congressional review of executive agreements. In theory, this should make CIA operations more accountable. In fact, it is only marginally effective.

Cambodia — Congress votes to cut off CIA funds for its secret war in Cambodia.

Wagergate Break-in — President Nixon sends in a team of burglars to wiretap Democratic offices at Watergate. The team members have extensive CIA histories, including James McCord, E. Howard Hunt and five of the Cuban burglars. They work for the Committee to Reelect the President (CREEP), which does dirty work like disrupting Democratic campaigns and laundering Nixon’s illegal campaign contributions. CREEP’s activities are funded and organized by another CIA front, the Mullen Company.

1973

Chile — The CIA overthrows and assassinates Salvador Allende, Latin America’s first democratically elected socialist leader. The problems begin when Allende nationalizes American-owned firms in Chile. ITT offers the CIA $1 million for a coup (reportedly refused). The CIA replaces Allende with General Augusto Pinochet, who will torture and murder thousands of his own countrymen in a crackdown on labor leaders and the political left.

CIA begins internal investigations — William Colby, the Deputy Director for Operations, orders all CIA personnel to report any and all illegal activities they know about. This information is later reported to Congress.

Watergate Scandal — The CIA’s main collaborating newspaper in America, The Washington Post, reports Nixon’s crimes long before any other newspaper takes up the subject. The two reporters, Woodward and Bernstein, make almost no mention of the CIA’s many fingerprints all over the scandal. It is later revealed that Woodward was a Naval intelligence briefer to the White House, and knows many important intelligence figures, including General Alexander Haig. His main source, "Deep Throat," is probably one of those.

CIA Director Helms Fired — President Nixon fires CIA Director Richard Helms for failing to help cover up the Watergate scandal. Helms and Nixon have always disliked each other. The new CIA director is William Colby, who is relatively more open to CIA reform.

1974

CHAOS exposed — Pulitzer prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh publishes a story about Operation CHAOS, the domestic surveillance and infiltration of anti-war and civil rights groups in the U.S. The story sparks national outrage.

Angleton fired — Congress holds hearings on the illegal domestic spying efforts of James Jesus Angleton, the CIA’s chief of counterintelligence. His efforts included mail-opening campaigns and secret surveillance of war protesters. The hearings result in his dismissal from the CIA.

House clears CIA in Watergate — The House of Representatives clears the CIA of any complicity in Nixon’s Watergate break-in.

The Hughes Ryan Act — Congress passes an amendment requiring the president to report nonintelligence CIA operations to the relevant congressional committees in a timely fashion.

1975

Australia — The CIA helps topple the democratically elected, left-leaning government of Prime Minister Edward Whitlam. The CIA does this by giving an ultimatum to its Governor-General, John Kerr. Kerr, a longtime CIA collaborator, exercises his constitutional right to dissolve the Whitlam government. The Governor-General is a largely ceremonial position appointed by the Queen; the Prime Minister is democratically elected. The use of this archaic and never-used law stuns the nation.

Angola — Eager to demonstrate American military resolve after its defeat in Vietnam, Henry Kissinger launches a CIA-backed war in Angola. Contrary to Kissinger’s assertions, Angola is a country of little strategic importance and not seriously threatened by communism. The CIA backs the brutal leader of UNITAS, Jonas Savimbi. This polarizes Angolan politics and drives his opponents into the arms of Cuba and the Soviet Union for survival. Congress will cut off funds in 1976, but the CIA is able to run the war off the books until 1984, when funding is legalized again. This entirely pointless war kills over 300,000 Angolans.

"The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence" — Victor Marchetti and John Marks publish this whistle-blowing history of CIA crimes and abuses. Marchetti has spent 14 years in the CIA, eventually becoming an executive assistant to the Deputy Director of Intelligence. Marks has spent five years as an intelligence official in the State Department.

"Inside the Company" — Philip Agee publishes a diary of his life inside the CIA. Agee has worked in covert operations in Latin America during the 60s, and details the crimes in which he took part.

Congress investigates CIA wrong-doing — Public outrage compels Congress to hold hearings on CIA crimes. Senator Frank Church heads the Senate investigation ("The Church Committee"), and Representative Otis Pike heads the House investigation. (Despite a 98 percent incumbency reelection rate, both Church and Pike are defeated in the next elections.) The investigations lead to a number of reforms intended to increase the CIA’s accountability to Congress, including the creation of a standing Senate committee on intelligence. However, the reforms prove ineffective, as the Iran/Contra scandal will show. It turns out the CIA can control, deal with or sidestep Congress with ease.

The Rockefeller Commission — In an attempt to reduce the damage done by the Church Committee, President Ford creates the "Rockefeller Commission" to whitewash CIA history and propose toothless reforms. The commission’s namesake, Vice President Nelson Rockefeller, is himself a major CIA figure. Five of the commission’s eight members are also members of the Council on Foreign Relations, a CIA-dominated organization.

12/30/2006 2:49:16 AM

not even 2!

1979

Iran — The CIA fails to predict the fall of the Shah of Iran, a longtime CIA puppet, and the rise of Muslim fundamentalists who are furious at the CIA’s backing of SAVAK, the Shah’s bloodthirsty secret police. In revenge, the Muslims take 52 Americans hostage in the U.S. embassy in Tehran.

Afghanistan — The Soviets invade Afghanistan. The CIA immediately begins supplying arms to any faction willing to fight the occupying Soviets. Such indiscriminate arming means that when the Soviets leave Afghanistan, civil war will erupt. Also, fanatical Muslim extremists now possess state-of-the-art weaponry. One of these is Sheik Abdel Rahman, who will become involved in the World Trade Center bombing in New York.

El Salvador — An idealistic group of young military officers, repulsed by the massacre of the poor, overthrows the right-wing government. However, the U.S. compels the inexperienced officers to include many of the old guard in key positions in their new government. Soon, things are back to "normal" — the military government is repressing and killing poor civilian protesters. Many of the young military and civilian reformers, finding themselves powerless, resign in disgust.

Nicaragua — Anastasios Samoza II, the CIA-backed dictator, falls. The Marxist Sandinistas take over government, and they are initially popular because of their commitment to land and anti-poverty reform. Samoza had a murderous and hated personal army called the National Guard. Remnants of the Guard will become the Contras, who fight a CIA-backed guerilla war against the Sandinista government throughout the 1980s.

1980

El Salvador — The Archbishop of San Salvador, Oscar Romero, pleads with President Carter "Christian to Christian" to stop aiding the military government slaughtering his people. Carter refuses. Shortly afterwards, right-wing leader Roberto D’Aubuisson has Romero shot through the heart while saying Mass. The country soon dissolves into civil war, with the peasants in the hills fighting against the military government. The CIA and U.S. Armed Forces supply the government with overwhelming military and intelligence superiority. CIA-trained death squads roam the countryside, committing atrocities like that of El Mazote in 1982, where they massacre between 700 and 1000 men, women and children. By 1992, some 63,000 Salvadorans will be killed.

1981

Iran/Contra Begins — The CIA begins selling arms to Iran at high prices, using the profits to arm the Contras fighting the Sandinista government in Nicaragua. President Reagan vows that the Sandinistas will be "pressured" until "they say ‘uncle.’" The CIA’s Freedom Fighter’s Manual disbursed to the Contras includes instruction on economic sabotage, propaganda, extortion, bribery, blackmail, interrogation, torture, murder and political assassination.

1983

Honduras — The CIA gives Honduran military officers the Human Resource Exploitation Training Manual – 1983, which teaches how to torture people. Honduras’ notorious "Battalion 316" then uses these techniques, with the CIA’s full knowledge, on thousands of leftist dissidents. At least 184 are murdered.

1984

The Boland Amendment — The last of a series of Boland Amendments is passed. These amendments have reduced CIA aid to the Contras; the last one cuts it off completely. However, CIA Director William Casey is already prepared to "hand off" the operation to Colonel Oliver North, who illegally continues supplying the Contras through the CIA’s informal, secret, and self-financing network. This includes "humanitarian aid" donated by Adolph Coors and William Simon, and military aid funded by Iranian arms sales.

1986

Eugene Hasenfus — Nicaragua shoots down a C-123 transport plane carrying military supplies to the Contras. The lone survivor, Eugene Hasenfus, turns out to be a CIA employee, as are the two dead pilots. The airplane belongs to Southern Air Transport, a CIA front. The incident makes a mockery of President Reagan’s claims that the CIA is not illegally arming the Contras.

Iran/Contra Scandal — Although the details have long been known, the Iran/Contra scandal finally captures the media’s attention in 1986. Congress holds hearings, and several key figures (like Oliver North) lie under oath to protect the intelligence community. CIA Director William Casey dies of brain cancer before Congress can question him. All reforms enacted by Congress after the scandal are purely cosmetic.

Haiti — Rising popular revolt in Haiti means that "Baby Doc" Duvalier will remain "President for Life" only if he has a short one. The U.S., which hates instability in a puppet country, flies the despotic Duvalier to the South of France for a comfortable retirement. The CIA then rigs the upcoming elections in favor of another right-wing military strongman. However, violence keeps the country in political turmoil for another four years. The CIA tries to strengthen the military by creating the National Intelligence Service (SIN), which suppresses popular revolt through torture and assassination.

1989

Panama — The U.S. invades Panama to overthrow a dictator of its own making, General Manuel Noriega. Noriega has been on the CIA’s payroll since 1966, and has been transporting drugs with the CIA’s knowledge since 1972. By the late 80s, Noriega’s growing independence and intransigence have angered Washington… so out he goes.

1990

Haiti — Competing against 10 comparatively wealthy candidates, leftist priest Jean-Bertrand Aristide captures 68 percent of the vote. After only eight months in power, however, the CIA-backed military deposes him. More military dictators brutalize the country, as thousands of Haitian refugees escape the turmoil in barely seaworthy boats. As popular opinion calls for Aristide’s return, the CIA begins a disinformation campaign painting the courageous priest as mentally unstable.

1991

The Gulf War — The U.S. liberates Kuwait from Iraq. But Iraq’s dictator, Saddam Hussein, is another creature of the CIA. With U.S. encouragement, Hussein invaded Iran in 1980. During this costly eight-year war, the CIA built up Hussein’s forces with sophisticated arms, intelligence, training and financial backing. This cemented Hussein’s power at home, allowing him to crush the many internal rebellions that erupted from time to time, sometimes with poison gas. It also gave him all the military might he needed to conduct further adventurism — in Kuwait, for example.

The Fall of the Soviet Union — The CIA fails to predict this most important event of the Cold War. This suggests that it has been so busy undermining governments that it hasn’t been doing its primary job: gathering and analyzing information. The fall of the Soviet Union also robs the CIA of its reason for existence: fighting communism. This leads some to accuse the CIA of intentionally failing to predict the downfall of the Soviet Union. Curiously, the intelligence community’s budget is not significantly reduced after the demise of communism.

1992

Economic Espionage — In the years following the end of the Cold War, the CIA is increasingly used for economic espionage. This involves stealing the technological secrets of competing foreign companies and giving them to American ones. Given the CIA’s clear preference for dirty tricks over mere information gathering, the possibility of serious criminal behavior is very great indeed.

1993

Haiti — The chaos in Haiti grows so bad that President Clinton has no choice but to remove the Haitian military dictator, Raoul Cedras, on threat of U.S. invasion. The U.S. occupiers do not arrest Haiti’s military leaders for crimes against humanity, but instead ensure their safety and rich retirements. Aristide is returned to power only after being forced to accept an agenda favorable to the country’s ruling class.

12/30/2006 2:49:48 AM

101 you live here

12/30/2006 2:56:13 AM

12/30/2006 3:17:45 AM

Thanks for the thread.

P.S. Here is a great website for anybody interested in all the people and countries destroyed by the US:

http://www.lossless-audio.com/usa [backed up with hundreds of sources]

It reminds me of a thread posted by DirtyGreek some 4 years ago.

Here is what he posted:

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"The Vice Guide To American Foreign Policy Dear Canada, We know you are sick of Americana. We know you grew up with everything from The Fonz to the word “couch” rammed down your throat and you see the American flag as a giant sports icon for jocks - but you’re wrong. The average American has nothing to do with your plight. If you trace the blame for their foreign policy, for example, you end up going past Americans, through most of their elected representatitves, through the CIA, and into the lap of a small cabal of corporate-connected leaders who have little regard for the democratic principles most Americans think their country stands for. As world-renowned Mr. Nice Guy, Dalai Lama recently said following 9/11, "As far as domestic policy is concerned, they think democracy, democracy, democracy," he said. "But American foreign policy is not much concerned for democratic principles." When fundamentalists and moderates alike talk about “evil America” they are talking about a handful of corporate-influenced crimes most Americans know nothing about. And the reason your average American doesn’t know anything about it is that they’re working too hard. When we see the American flag we see construction workers and waitresses busting their asses and going into debt trying to make things better for their families. They get home too tired to read the paper and get their world news from late-night comedians. Before September 11th the deal was this: The American people agreed to work their asses off and not ask questions about what the government was up to as long as the government promised to continue to provide the American way of life. As Ollie North put it, “the American people don’t want to know.” Then on September 11th, everything changed. A group of lunatics had been using foreign policy blunders abroad to vilify America and start a war. All Americans became victims of wrongdoings that none of them had anything to do with and the American way of life had become threatened. For the first time in decades the American people want to know what’s been going on behind their backs and the answers are not pretty... Philippines The 1899 Filipino-American War is one of those nasty little conflicts that you won’t find a lot about in your high school history textbook. Call it the first Vietnam. During the 1898 Spanish-American War, the US help the Filipinos gain independence from Spain. Then they declare the country an American colony. A brutal war follows. Many of the scorched-earth tactics used in Vietnam are first used here. More than 100,000 Filipinos die. A large anti-imperialism movement starts in the US. “We do not intend to free, but subjugate the people of the Philippines. We have gone there to conquer, not to redeem,” wrote early celebrity activist Mark Twain. In 1945, the Americans return to the Philippines. Even though they have a common enemy – Japan – America fights leftist forces known as Huks. The US defeat the Huks, and install a series of puppet presidents, culminating in the absurdly corrupt Ferdinand Marcos. He and his high-heel-obsessed wife bilk the poverty-ridden country dry for three decades, and then retire comfortably in Hawaii. Iran 1953 - The CIA’s first big takedown. The democratically-elected Prime Minister Mossadegh had to go. He was talking some crazy talk, like nationalizing Iran’s oil. A CIA-sponsored coup kills him and restores the Shah to absolute power kicking off 25 years of repression and torture. Iran’s oil is returned to its rightful owners, the Americans and the British. This, of course, sets the stage for a radical Islamic revolution in 1979, when the Ayatollah Khomeini takes over, holds Americans hostage, burns many American flags, and pisses off rednecks across America. Guatemala 1953 - Jacobo Arbenz also had to go. The progressive, democratically-elected president is also talking that crazy talk - you know, land reform, civil liberties, nationalizing the Washington-connected United Fruit Company. The CIA organizes a massive disinformation campaign and coup. Next up: 40 years of bad, bad things you don’t even want to think about – American-trained death squads and torture-specialists, disappearances, mass executions. Victims: 100,000. Middle East In the '50s, the Eisenhower Doctrine states the United States “is prepared to use armed forces to assist” any Middle Eastern country “requesting assistance against armed aggression from any country controlled by international communism.” In other words, no one is allowed is to fuck around in the Middle East or its oil fields except the United States. The US tries to overthrow the Syrian government (twice), lands 14,000 troops in Lebanon and conspires to overthrow and assassinate Arab nationalist Gamel Abdel Nasser in Egypt (US corporate interests were not happy about his nationalization of the Suez Canal and advocacy of Arab socialism). The US supports Israel with billions of dollars of aid, despite its brutal treatment of Palestinians and massacres in Lebanon and watches while decades of Israeli agression unfolds - and, like the Energizer bunny, its "still going!" Indonesia 1957 - President Sukarno is another "troublemaker." He takes back Indonesian companies from their former colonial masters, the Dutch. He takes a trip to Moscow. He refuses to crack down on communists. The CIA launches a disinformation campaign, tries to blackmail him with a fake sex film, plots his assassination and teams up with dissident military officers to start a full-scale war against the government. Sukarno, unlike many on the Agency’s hit list, somehow survives. 1965 - Sukarno is finally overthrown by General Suharto. The US helps him track down anyone suspected of being communist. The New York Times calls what follows “one of the most savage mass slayings of modern political history.” Up to 1,000,000 are murdered. Vietnam After watching the French get their asses kicked halfway to Montparnasse, the US gets embroiled in a civil war pitting communist nationalist forces against a corrupt, pro-west government. In 1961, the first young American men start arriving home in body bags. Before it’s over, more than one million Vietnamese and 50,000 Americans will die, Jimi Hendrix will play Woodstock, the Beatles will form and break up, and the American psyche will be radically transformed. In 1973, the US finally admits defeat, forever dooming it to need to overcome the “Vietnam Syndrome” (see Rambo). Cambodia 1969 - Nixon and Kissinger begin their secret “carpet bombings” of Cambodia. They say it is to kill Viet Cong hiding out in the Cambodian jungle. Hundreds of thousands of Cambodian civilians die. 1970 - Washington finally helps overthrow troublesome Prince Sihanouk in a coup. The US enlists the genocidal maniac Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge to help fight the Viet Cong. Five years later, Pol Pot takes over, declares “Year Zero,” kills anyone with an education, or even wearing glasses, and sends everyone to the countryside to work in agricultural labor camps. More than 2,000,000 die in his “killing fields” (see The Killing Fields). The Congo/Zaire 1960 - Patrice Lumumba becomes the Congo’s first prime minister after independence from Belgium. But the Belgians don’t quite leave. They keep their hands on the vast mineral wealth in the Katanga province, where the Americans also have a piece of the action. Lumumba is defiant, calling for the Congo’s economic and political liberation. In other words, he is doomed. In January 1961, he is assassinated with help from the CIA, under orders from Eisenhower himself. His body is chopped up into little pieces and burned in acid. Mobutu Sese Seko takes over, changes the name to Zaire, and begins one of the most corrupt and bloody dictatorships in modern times. Even his CIA handlers are amazed at his cruelty. Thirty years later, despite its rich natural resources, the people of the Congo are still dirt-poor, Mobutu is a multibillionaire, and the country is in chaos. In 1997, Mobutu is overthrown, and retires to the Cote d’Azur. The country slides into a civil war that has claimed more than 1,000,000 lives. Cuba 1959 - When Fidel Castro rolls into Havana New Years Day he isn’t a commie – he is a nationalist and an opportunist. But he did take over Cuba’s national industries. And that, as we’ve learned, is something the US doesn’t look kindly on. The Americans begin a comically disastrous campaign to oust Castro. They help launch a full-scale invasion at the Bay of Pigs and are crushed. They launch gunboat attacks, bombings, biological warfare. New evidence has just come out that the Joint Chiefs of Staff even considered committing terrorist acts and then blaming them on Cuba as a pretext to invade again. (see Project Northwoods) They try to send Castro exploding cigars. Spray poison on his beard. True stories. The US issues sanctions and a trade embargo that, more than anything, ensures Castro remains in power."

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"Chile 1973 - Salvador Allende was a “dangerous” man. He was popular, democratically elected, and a leftist. Against the objections of many inside the US State Department, the CIA, pushed by then Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, helps the military overthrow the government. Allende is killed. General Pinochet closes off the country to the outside world. Tanks roll in, soldiers round up students, stadiums turn into execution fields, the country is gripped by fear. For two decades, Pinochet rules with a brutal hand, and thousands of students, union organizers and other bad apples are “disappeared.” (see the movie Missing) East Timor December 1975 - Indonesia invades the small island of East Timor, which had proclaimed its independence after Portugal took off. The day before the invasion, US President Gerald Ford and Secretary of State Kissinger were in Indonesia meeting with Indonesian President Suharto. Interesting, huh? Amnesty International estimates that by 1989, Indonesian troops had killed 200,000 people out of a population of between 600,000 and 700,000. The US supplies Indonesia with aid, guns, and training throughout. Nicaragua 1978 - the leftist Sandinistas overthrow the US-backed Somoza dictatorship. Reagan becomes obsessed with taking out the Cuba-and-Soviet-friendly government, enlisting an army of mercenaries, drug dealers and ex-Somoza National Guardsmen. The Contras attack schools and medical clinics, raping, torturing, mining harbors, and bombing. When Congress cuts off funds, Reagan’s “freedom fighters” are financed by CIA drug-dealing and secret arms sales to Iran in what comes to be known as the Iran-Contra Affair. El Salvador During El Salvador’s bloody civil war (1980-92), the US funds, trains, and secretly fights alongside a military that operates less like a traditional army than a loose confederation of homicidal fraternities. By the end of the war, 75,000 Salvadorans are dead. Panama During the '80s, Manny Noriega was George Bush’s nigga. On the CIA payroll, he helped the US run drugs, launder money and ship arms to the company's operations in Nicaragua and El Salvador. But ol’ Pineapple-Face became a problem. Turned out he was giving aid to Fidel Castro, laundering money for Pablo Escobar and talking smack about US imperialism. Plus he knew way too much about the whole Iran-Contra affair. Dude had to go. In December 1989, Bush sends in the Green Berets to arrest him for drug dealing. A whole Panama City barrio is leveled. The official body count is 500-something, others say 3,000. Noriega sits in a Florida jail feeling confused. Iraq In the 80s, Saddam Hussein is America's ally. The US sends him weapons and money as he fights a seemingly endless war against Iran, murders his political opponents, and gasses the Kurds. In 1991, Saddam is pissed off at neighboring Kuwait (a country invented by Britain) for undercutting the price of oil. He invades. The US forms an international coalition to "liberate" Kuwait. Saddam sends an army of barefoot conscripts. For more than 40 days and nights, 177 million pounds of bombs fall on Iraq - the most concentrated aerial onslaught in the history of the world. The US uses cancer-causing depleted uranium weapons; they bury soldiers alive; they bomb retreating troops and civilians. At the war's end, the US turns its back on the Kurds and other anti-Saddam forces (see Three Kings). While Saddam remains in power, US sanctions and continued bombing keep food, medicine, and clean water from everyday Iraqis. According to the UN, over one million Iraqis have died, half of them children. Afghanistan Beginning in the 1970s, the US pours billions of dollars into overthrowing a pro-Soviet government. The CIA funds, trains, and arms a guerrilla army of Islamic extremists known as the Mujahideen. The Soviets are driven out, in their version of Vietnam. More than a million Afghan are dead, three million disabled, and five million made refugees. The country slides into civil war in which an even more radical group of Pakistan-educated students and uneducated hillbillies known as the Taliban take over. The country becomes a haven for anti-American terrorist groups and women-haters. Lies flourish. While outwardly criticizing the Taliban, behind the scenes the CIA and American oil companies jockey for leverage to build a pipeline across the country. Yugoslavia 1999 - After the Serbs start ”ethnic cleansing" Albanians in the Yugoslavian province of Kosovo, the US and NATO launch 70 days of air strikes against Serbia (an act that had nothing to do with corporate interest and was actually pretty reasonable). Thousands of Serbs are killed. The ethnic Albanian KLA guerrilla army, a drug-dealing group of thugs who were first accused of ethnic cleansing Serbs by The New York Times back in 1982, start an open season on Serbs living in Kosovo. The bombs stop, and Serb demagogue Slobodan Milosevic is driven from power by a popular movement. Colombia 2001- Colombia's three-decade-old civil war is still going strong, despite, or some might say, as a result of $1.4 billion of US military aid. The country is a chaotic death trap. Marxist rebels hold large portions of the country; American mercenaries and defense department front companies like DynCorp are covertly helping the inept Colombian military; right-wing paramilitaries are massacring civilians; and everyone has their hands in the super-lucrative drug trade. Most people don't know that American forces have been around for while. In the early 90s, a secret group code-named Centra Spike launch a covert operation to take out Pablo Escobar, a major cocaine lord who made the fatal mistake of giving money to the poor and talking shit about American imperialism. The Colombian government and the secret American unit go into business with Escobar's rival the Cali Cartel. Escobar is finally killed. The Cali Cartel's power is solidified and the flow of cocaine into the US only increases. Sources/Suggested reading The Trial of Henry Kissinger - Christopher Hitchens, Verso, 2001. Panama Deception - documentary film. Winner 1992 Academy Award for Best Documentary. Director: Barbara Trent. Blowback: The Costs and Consequences of American Empire - Chalmers Johnson, Henry Holt, 2000. Weakness and Deceit: U.S. Policy and El Salvador - Raymond Bonner, Times Books, New York, 1984. The War Conspiracy: The Secret Road to the Second Indochina War - Peter Dale Scott, Bobbs Merrill, New York and Indianapolis, 1972. Cocaine Politics: Drugs, Armies and the CIA in Central America - Peter Dale Scott and Jonathan Marshall. University of California Press, 1991. Coming to Jakarta: A Poem About Terror - Peter Dale Scott, New Directions, New York, 1989. East Timor: Genocide in Paradise - Matthew Jardine, Common Courage Press, 1999. Killing Pablo: The Hunt for the World's Greatest Outlaw - Mark Bowden. Atlantic Monthly Press, 2001. Between Despair and Hope: Windows on My Middle East Journey 1967-1992 - Margarita Skinner, UNICEF Health Coordinator in Baghdad from 1991-1992. The Radcliffe Press, London and New York, 1998. UNICEF Report August 1999: Iraq surveys show "humanitarian emergency" http://www.unicef.org/newsline/99pr29.htm"

12/30/2006 9:14:23 AM

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"101 you live here"

12/30/2006 11:14:29 AM

100 reasons to lock this thread


[Edited on December 30, 2006 at 12:00 PM. Reason : once is enough--theDuke866]

12/30/2006 11:19:06 AM

i hope you guys understand that similar lists could be made for every country in the world.

everyone does horrible shit. But this list is still cute.

also

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"Operation MK-ULTRA — Inspired by North Korea’s brainwashing program, the CIA begins experiments on mind control. The most notorious part of this project involves giving LSD and other drugs to American subjects without their knowledge or against their will, causing several to commit suicide. However, the operation involves far more than this. Funded in part by the Rockefeller and Ford foundations, research includes propaganda, brainwashing, public relations, advertising, hypnosis, and other forms of suggestion."

also this is hilarious

12/30/2006 11:22:50 AM

so, if you hate america so much, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU STILL HERE?

12/30/2006 11:41:14 AM

Pretty much what ^ and ^^ said. While I can't make a list offhand of 100 things other countries have done, I'm sure that if you look hard enough throughout history you'll find plenty of dirty laundry that isn't American. And for rizzle, if the actions of the American government deplore you so much, why are you posting about it on an internet forum? Leave the country, start an underground revolutionary clan, be a terrorist, blah blah blah. It's not as if the rest of us aren't already aware that we have pretty sleazy people in office with questionable motives, so you can't use education as your excuse.

12/30/2006 11:48:10 AM

The political and philosophical musings of sheltered White teenage girls....

12/30/2006 11:57:57 AM

^^ along with that

I love the USA. I know it sucks most of the time but its my home. I have no hate for it but I can question its actions and refuse to deal with its shit.

This thread is silly

12/30/2006 1:18:18 PM

how about a thread thats like "100 reasons to get the fuck out if you hate america"

12/30/2006 1:22:10 PM

just because you hate a place doesn't mean you want to leave.

if that was the case then the US wouldn't exist.

12/30/2006 1:31:19 PM

well then why stay in a place you hate? wouldnt it make much more sense to live somewhere you dont hate?

12/30/2006 1:33:49 PM

not if you're trying to change it.

I hate Raleigh but I'm still here.

but im moving so its kinda a mute point.

12/30/2006 1:35:11 PM

Look every educated person knows the US has a checkered history (much like any other place).

But this constant America hating is just beyond annoying, just like people who constantly hate on anything. Just stop it already.


Here's a fun thought experiment for the OMGARR AMERICA crowd:

Take the amount of power the US has and trade it with an Islamic country. That being, pretend that the US has the amount of power of any one of those third-world shitholes, and give that Islamic country the economic and military power of the United States. Now, predict how fucking big the "reasons to hate ____" list would get.

12/30/2006 1:41:07 PM

^^MOOT!

12/30/2006 2:04:29 PM

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"Man, if I lived in one of those countries I would hate the USA with a passion. "

If you could read you would see that this is pretty much explaining why everyone else hates America. Many Americans think its because they are just jealous. (lol thats the easy way out everyones mom told them when there was over a conflict "o honey, they're just jealous of you"). But its because America has been evil since ww2.

Then, when planes hit buildings everyone is like "o my who would do such a terrible thing to america. What cowards. (since when is dying to pull something off cowardly anyway?) Why us? blah blah blah"

Fact of the matter is that its a blind double standard.

12/30/2006 2:14:14 PM

^^DUFF

12/30/2006 2:20:26 PM

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"since when is dying to pull something off cowardly anyway?"

Hijacking a plane full of civilians and flying it into a completely undefended civilian target = cowardly

Flying your own plane into a heavily guarded military vessel (ie Kamikaze pilots) = not cowardly

12/30/2006 2:27:23 PM

It wasn't coincident that all of the planes were pretty much empty considering their capacity. Our great country would simply brush that off as collateral.

CIA=cowards
Giving weapons to people to do dirty work= cowardly
atomic bombs= cowardly

12/30/2006 2:32:34 PM

the CIA rules

12/30/2006 2:37:18 PM

isn't the cia responsible for mlk jfk coccaine and maybe even aids?

12/30/2006 2:48:09 PM

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"atomic bombs= cowardly"

The atomic bombs saved just as many Japanese lives as it did American

12/30/2006 2:49:26 PM

of course someone drops that gem

no one can ever know that

12/30/2006 2:52:02 PM

blowing yourself up in a crowded marketplace full of innocent people = COWARDLY

12/30/2006 2:52:26 PM

you guys are retarded

anything that involves blowing YOURSELF up takes some balls

12/30/2006 2:53:26 PM

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"of course someone drops that gem no one can ever know that"

No but you can easily assume it to be true based on historical evidence.

And are you saying committing suicide takes balls? It really doesn't.

[Edited on December 30, 2006 at 2:55 PM. Reason : a]

12/30/2006 2:54:08 PM

^^suicide is taking the cowards way out however you look at it

a split second of pain compared to a life of pain? fucking pussified

12/30/2006 2:56:28 PM

Hey, if you don't like it here, you're perfectly welcome to leave. No one is forcing you to stay...

12/30/2006 2:57:20 PM

course if you go to some countries that are NOT america, you might be forced to STAY and obviously couldnt make internet threads or go see college football games since some countries dont value rights for women

12/30/2006 2:58:54 PM

Only a couple situations where suicide is not cowardly



is one of them.

12/30/2006 2:59:23 PM

^^ such as the middle east terrorists that she is always defending.

[Edited on December 30, 2006 at 3:00 PM. Reason : ]

12/30/2006 3:00:19 PM

you guys are mixed up.

killing yourself is pretty gay when we're talking about some emo kid who is depressed and wants to make his family and friends feel bad.


but the people that we're talking about aren't doing it because they are depressed or anti-social or whatever else. they're doing it for their cause, which is an entirely different scenario, and to me, seems like it would take some balls.

[Edited on December 30, 2006 at 3:01 PM. Reason : ,]

12/30/2006 3:01:02 PM

no they're doing it because they're fucking misguided morons so fuck them...that doesnt take balls...it just takes an empty brain

12/30/2006 3:06:14 PM

They're doing it solely for the purpose of supposed 72 virgins.

12/30/2006 3:07:59 PM

72 virgins each in 72 bedrooms each in 72 mansions

373,248 virgins

you gotta be a moron to believe that one

12/30/2006 3:09:44 PM

whatever, who gives a fuck.

i'd like to stand by my statement that the CIA fucking rules. Being a CIA agent has always been my dream job since i was a kid.

12/30/2006 3:09:55 PM

The best thing about suicide bombers is that they won't be coming back.
The sad part is that the countries that use suicide bombers...that's the best they can do, apparently.

12/30/2006 3:15:39 PM

Maybe the world hates us because there are so many obnoxious young Americans, like yourself, "cathocutie".

Hmm, you're 19 eh? I suppose you've had your first political science class and now you consider yourself a political analyst extraordinaire.

My advice: stick to tailgating, drinking, and shouting "WOOOOO!" at clubs.

[Edited on December 30, 2006 at 4:07 PM. Reason : ...]

12/30/2006 4:04:21 PM

I don't get the introduction. How can Israel be worse than the USA?

12/30/2006 4:16:29 PM

^^Nice burn.

12/30/2006 4:35:18 PM

^Actually it was a totally lame burn.

The whole "Oh, I bet you just took Poly Sci 101 and now you think you know it all" line is so fucking tired.

12/30/2006 6:33:00 PM

2006

there are kevin federline cds in wal-mart

12/30/2006 6:38:16 PM

^^It is yet to be disproven.

12/30/2006 7:06:57 PM

Bridget doesn't like that one because she's one of the people that argument is directed at.

12/30/2006 7:12:28 PM

instead of addressing the point you attack the person who said it. it doesn't really matter whether it's true or not. if a buffoon makes a good point, does it make the point any less valid?

[Edited on December 30, 2006 at 7:13 PM. Reason : .]

12/30/2006 7:12:31 PM